Discourse DMZ
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https://meta.discourse.org/t/new-indicator-far-too-visually-strong/19575/4
This is too broken.
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As far as I understand it, t's a simple CSS-change. @PJH or @ChaosTheEternal should be able to reverse this in a few seconds flat.
I love the reasoning though:
"I went to a forum I have never been before and there was new there and that was overwhelming for me so let's make it underwhelming for users that have been there longer!"
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Filed under: [spoiler]There's another post suggesting they remove usernames from posts and use avatars only.[/spoiler]
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I know, I have the meta-tabs ~5 tabs away from the TDWTF-ones.
Still I don't understand why they don't just make everything optional instead of flat out removing them?There is usually one guy being like "Yeah, I personally don't like this and that" and if Jeff agrees (which, to be fair, makes it 2 people wanting it) everybody gets it. Remember Heatmaps?
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Without seeing the new styles "in action" (I don't have a meta.d account, and guests don't see those indicators), I can't say what could be applied to fix it.
If you can give an inspector shot of the "new" element, I can probably figure out something.
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I don't have a meta-account. So I can't see the "New"-bubbles over there at all.
And now you edited your post to say almost the exact same thing... nice
Filed Under: We'll burn that bridge when it comes to it, I guess. No need to preemtively change the CSS
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I propose a change where Discourse is nothing but whitespace. Text and CSS are a barrier to being able to make up my own content in my head.
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Using your head (to maken up content) is a barrier to using Disourse and you are clearly doing it wrongtm
Filed Under: CLOSEDWONTFIXEDNOTABUGASDESIGNED!
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Using your head (to maken up content) is a barrier to using Disourse and you are clearly doing it wrong
You are harshing my mellow.
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The only thing I can find is their existing styles:
.badge-notification.new-posts, .badge-notification.unread-posts { background-color: #6cf; color: #fff; font-weight: normal; }
Which the .unread-posts option doesn't appear to be used, as both "new topics" and "topics with unread posts" both have the class .new-posts.
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I love this rebuttal:
https://meta.discourse.org/t/new-indicator-far-too-visually-strong/19575/8
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Mine are better.
https://meta.discourse.org/t/new-indicator-far-too-visually-strong/19575/7?u=matches
https://meta.discourse.org/t/new-indicator-far-too-visually-strong/19575/9?u=matches
Though 'Old' could be improved to use the following face inside the circle, instead of 'Old' - it would improve clarity and intent.
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But cipher1's comments are even better because they don't have to change a damn thing about the program. They just have to get Jeff to properly dog food the preferences.
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Damn. Strategy session!
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Jeff does not use the software the way everyone else does, therefore dogfooding is useless.
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Also found this little gem:
To summarize the conversation: Jeff thinks that maintaining multiple sock puppets to give yourself Leader status is more work than a spammer could be bothered with. Does he know anything?
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Regardless of whether you like it, it was impossible to style the new badge before today's commit. Also the code was hella repeated and is now componentized.
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Regardless of whether you like it, it was impossible to style the new badge before today's commit. Also the code was hella repeated and is now componentized.
So fix the code, but do it without changing the UI. I know that kind of thing is doable, I have to do it all the time.
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It's okay @Matches , I've done you one better...
https://meta.discourse.org/t/new-indicator-far-too-visually-strong/19575/10?u=darkmatter
damn is it hard to tell where the hell one quote ends and the real post starts in oneboxed dicsourse links....
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it was impossible to style the new badge
.badge-notification.new-posts[title='new topic'] { background-color: #f00; }
Impractical, yes. Impossible? No.
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body { display:none }
Far less visually strong.
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Also funny is that posting on meta.d causes the entire page to do an F5 style refresh? Is that happening to anyone else?
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Also funny is that posting on meta.d causes the entire page to do an F5 style refresh? Is that happening to anyone else?
Every time?
IME (from when I've done it here,) if there's an update been done, and you're actively using the site, then it forces a page refresh if you do something that changes what will be viewed.. If you're inactive you get the modal "Site has been updated - refresh?" box when you get back to it.
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Speaking of which, on a meta.d tab I had open and hadn't been to for a while:
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Speaking of which, on a meta.d tab I had open and hadn't been to for a while:
Interesting. Well apparently they have updated at least 2x today and both updates coincidentally happened just before I posted something then I guess.
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At least 2x?
I'd guess that's off by at least one order of magnitude...
(Pedantry about the phrase 'at least' aside that is...)
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Interesting
Another BUG: Quote replying a post's full text when the post had an image in it as well does not trigger the "expand" link to show up in the quoted post. Note how the quote in this post has an expansion button while my quote of PJH's above does not....
But if i do a true full quote I bet you get the expansion since the screwed up html won't match the real deal anyway:
Speaking of which, on a meta.d tab I had open and hadn't been to for a while:
<img src="/uploads/default/6544/4ffbe00a04791c6b.png" width="541" height="166">
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Well apparently they have updated at least 2x today
Every build that passes the test suites and a smoke test are automatically deployed to meta. It's often deployed a dozen times a day or more.
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New BUG
No, the issue is this:
[quote="PJH, post:26, topic:2914, full:true"]
That says your quote contains the whole post (which may not be accurate, like in your case), so quote expansion is disabled.
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[quote="PJH, post:26, topic:2914, full:true"]
That says your quote contains the whole post (which may not be accurate, like in your case), so quote expansion is disabled.
The thing is, I highlighted text and hit "Quote Reply" popup.
Doubly fun - the TRUE FULL QUOTE I did does not contain that "full:true" thing, even though IT REALLY WAS A TRUE FULL QUOTE.
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[quote="PJH, post:26, topic:2914, full:true"]
Let's test this nonsense by fakefulltrueing?
Sho'nuff.
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I've mentioned it before somewhere that you can fake "full quote" people.
I don't remember where, though.
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So the bug is that dicsourse doesn't know whether you're actually quoting full or not, EVEN WHEN DICSOURSE IS WHAT CREATED THE QUOTE FOR YOU
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I knew that already about the fake full quoting - i just didn't expect Dicsourse to build it in for me. I didn't put full:true in that quote (of pjh minus the image) above, that was all dicsourse.
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Yeah, it only adds that when you have highlighted "the full post" (which apparently doesn't include even attempting to highlight images), but not when you click the "quote whole post" button, which is misleading and inconsistent.
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Argh....this is fucking stupid. As I said on meta, the new topics are now hiding. Stupid stupid stupid stupid.
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damn is it hard to tell where the hell one quote ends and the real post starts in oneboxed dicsourse links....
And because they were heresy to the One True Way of Discourse, it looks like they've been removed so we can't even click through to read the posts.
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Oh, look.
@codinghorror deleted my post about leaving the blue asterisk.
Are you fucking kidding me?
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No, the issue is this:
[quote="PJH, post:26, topic:2914, full:true"]
That says your quote contains the whole post (which may not be accurate, like in your case), so quote expansion is disabled.
Which is a really stupid way to determine if it is a full quote.
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I think he has you on his shit list.
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Probably because my followup made yours look extra ridiculous. I pretty much expected mine would get deleted, though I had a valid point.
Clearly they're not of the brainstorming mindset, because weeding out the bad ideas by suggesting them as we had done is what sometimes leads to the truly good ideas.
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I find it hilarious that your comment was left and mine was deleted.
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I'm debating whether or not I should just fill up his hard drive with nyan cat images.
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Which is a really stupid way to determine if it is a full quote.
turdfull:@abarker, post:43, topic:2914, full:goeatmeyoupieceofturd said:
Which is a really stupid way to determine if it is a full quote.
full:1@abarker, post:43, topic:2914, full:1 said:
Which is a really stupid way to determine if it is a full quote.
full:trueWhich is a really stupid way to determine if it is a full quote.
full:false@abarker, post:43, topic:2914, full:false said:
Which is a really stupid way to determine if it is a full quote.
[edit]link to raw btw: http://what.thedailywtf.com/raw/2914/48 [/edit]
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Seriously, view that in the raw, it's truly a giant bag full of lulz.