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@Intercourse said:
I also do not fly United or Delta if I have a choice.
I avoid Delta, but I live near a United hub, so I can usually get direct flights.
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Got me. I was trying to make a funny ("look, someone's still flying turboprops") but I guess it didn't work, judging from the reaction of noted funny guy Blakeyrat.
Wait... that was supposed to be a joke?
There's about a million airlines flying turboprops. They're much more economical on shorter routes. Hell, Alaska (one of the US's largest airlines) has a shitload of 'em. You say "still flying turboprops" as if turboprops are somehow obsolete technology. The only thing wrong with Bombardier aircraft is that they're Canadian.
Congratulations, you are the winner of, "joke so fucking terrible Blakeyrat thought you were replying seriously to an obvious joke and mocked you for it". You can redeem it for one (1) pack of gum at 7-11. (The secret redemption passcode is, "I have a gun, open the safe". Make sure to say those exact words.)
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There's about a million airlines flying turboprops. They're much more economical on shorter routes. Hell, Alaska has a shitload of 'em. You say "still flying turboprops" as if turboprops are somehow obsolete technology.
Turboprops also have a significantly shorter takeoff run, allowing them to operate out of airports with much shorter runways while still carrying a large load of passengers. There is absolutely nothing wrong with turboprops. Sometimes, they are the right tool for the right job.
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Wait... that was supposed to be a joke?
It's a tough job, being the funniest guy in the room, but Blakey manages somehow!
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You wanna hear a funny joke? This guy goes to a car dealership, and buys a diesel!
Get it? It's funny because diesel engines are really old! And nobody uses them anymore! Ha ha!
"Look, somebody's still driving diesels!" Ha ha!
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You wanna hear a funny joke? This guy goes to a car dealership, and buys a
dieselBuick!FTFB
Filed Under: it's funny because they actually have a commercial based on that premise
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I don't watch TV, go away.
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No, I get all my intellectual stimulation from video games about busty chicks with swords.
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You wanna hear a funny joke? This guy goes to a car dealership, and buys a diesel!
Get it? It's funny because diesel engines are really old!
I wouldn't be surprised if you go to improv clubs just so you can heckle the comics when their jokes aren't funny enough for you.
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@blakeyrat said:
"holy shit guys, do you got a Ford Tri-Motor I could take instead?"
No, but you can still find airlines running de Havilland Canada[1] Dash 8s.[1] You could be a pedantic dickweed and insist it's a Bombardier, but then you'd be disagreeing with Orbitz.
First: pedantry in italics. (The British 'mothership' was bought out by Hawker Siddeley in the 60s, the Canadian arm became a Crown corp in WWII and lasted until Bombardier snapped them up in the early 90s after a stint as a Boeing subsidiary due to 80s privatization efforts.) So, Orbitz gets negative points for failing at corporate history.Second: the Dash 8-Q400 is still coming off the Downsview production line, and Viking Air (who bought the type certificates for the legacy DHC planes from Bombardier/DHC) restarted production of the DHC-6 Twin Otter after Boeing killed it in the late 80s.
@Intercourse said:
What's wrong with the Dash-8?
To clueless USians: the fact it has propellers.
To the rest of the world: nothing whatsoever.
@Intercourse said:
@blakeyrat said:
There's about a million airlines flying turboprops. They're much more economical on shorter routes. Hell, Alaska has a shitload of 'em. You say "still flying turboprops" as if turboprops are somehow obsolete technology.
Turboprops also have a significantly shorter takeoff run, allowing them to operate out of airports with much shorter runways while still carrying a large load of passengers. There is absolutely nothing wrong with turboprops. Sometimes, they are the right tool for the right job.
Case in point 1: St. Barth's. (Or, scheduled airline service to a runway that's comparable in size to your typical carrier deck, using Do-228s, Twin Otters, and the likes.)
Case in point 2: The US Navy experimented with having a C-130 take off and land from the USS Forrestal. No hook, no arresting wires, no catapult. And it worked. (Although, deck safety concerns with wingtip clearances made it impractical for regular operations.)
Case in point 3: Airbus actually decided to design a turboprop military hauler of their own, the A400M, because apparently the C-130 could use some competition.Some days, I wish the US propeller-phobia would go away...might save folks a few bucks on plane tickets vs. all the RJs running around. (You'd also be able to have more airline service, as turboprop fuel efficiency makes routes economical that just aren't with a RJ.)
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TDWTF: Where mouse topics turn into turboprop flame wars.
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tarunik said:
the US propeller-phobiaSeriously? That's not a thing.
As opposed to tarunik's phobia of using the term "Americans".
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I assumed he was Canadian, and I was about to make fun of him, but his profile says "area USA", so I don't know what that means.
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TDWTF: Where mouse topics turn into turboprop flame wars.
TDWTF: from complaints about Git to Harry Potter slash fiction in a single thread, we really do have it all.
Gotta love those gosh darned creative anarchists.
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To clueless USians: the fact it has propellers.
This counteracted all of your pedantry points, but it's a good troll.
Filed Under: USA! USA! USA!
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I assumed he was Canadian, and I was about to make fun of him, but his profile says "area USA", so I don't know what that means.
It means he's one of those humorless people who don't like letting people from the United States of America call themselves Americans, because, apparently, the right of Canadians to also call themselves Americans is being deprived...or ambiguated.
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This counteracted all of your pedantry points, but it's a
goodtedious, overused troll.ObFTFY.
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But Canadians already have a word. It's "Canadians." So do Mexicans. (Psst: it's "Mexicans".) So they don't need Americans, therefore we can take it. U S A! U S A!
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It means he's one of those humorless people who don't like letting people from the United States of America call themselves Americans, because, apparently, the right of Canadians to also call themselves Americans is being deprived...or ambiguated.
It's also confusing, because Mexico is properly the United Mexican States. I think he just hates the brown man.
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But Canadians already have a word. It's "Canadians." So do Mexicans. (Psst: it's "Mexicans".) So they don't need Americans, therefore we can take it. U S A! U S A!
No shit. If they really wanted to call themselves Americans, the least they could have done was put it in their country's name.
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I wish the US propeller-phobia
My main complaint with prop plains is the damn noise. Every prop-plane I've been on, you can barely hear the person next to you when they're yelling six inches* from your face.
* Ok, slight exaggeration. Make it a full foot.
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But Canadians already have a word. It's "Canadians." So do Mexicans. (Psst: it's "Mexicans".) So they don't need Americans, therefore we can take it. U S A! U S A!
Yes, I know. That's what's so pointless about people who use the term "USians." They're whining about nothing, which usually means it's subtle or overt anti-Americanism.
I suspect the number of Canadians, Mexicans, and people who hail from other countries in the American continents who aren't from the USA, who want to be called "Americans" is approximately zero.
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And yet, here we are, discussing his apparent self hate.
His troll was overused, not your comment.
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His troll was overused, not your comment.
I knew what you meant. I'm just saying, regardless of use, it was pretty successful.
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I'm just saying, regardless of use, it was pretty successful.
Are you suggesting we let someone be wrong on the Internet?
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Are you suggesting we let someone be wrong on the Internet?
No. Sometimes you have to let the troll win to beat the troll. A lot of the fun of this site is trolling and being trolled.
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No. Sometimes you have to let the troll win to beat the troll. A lot of the fun of this site is trolling and being trolled.
I wasn't serious. Probably, the lack of all the exclamation points and question marks and 1s failed to give that away.
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No. Sometimes you have to let the troll win to beat the troll. A lot of the fun of this site is trolling and being trolled.
If we didn't feed the trolls, we'd all starve to death.
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@Intercourse said:
They do, check their websites.
I did, although it's probably been a few months ago. At least one, I don't remember which, explicitly said they do not, period.
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Every prop-plane I've been on, you can barely hear the person next to you when they're yelling six inches* from your face.
Shame about the sound-proofing on those planes.
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Shame about the sound-proofing on those planes.
They're still quieter than those fucking American Airlines Super-80s.
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They're still quieter than those fucking American Airlines Super-80s.
Don't know them at all; I've never flown with AA. (For various reasons unimportant to you, when I'm in the US I always seem to end up flying with Delta, a rather mixed experience.)
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Engines are mounted near the rear of the fuselage, not on the wings. If you're in the back of the plane, you're right next to them.
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If you're in the back 3 rows, the engine pylon connects directly to your forehead. At least it feels like it.
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They're still quieter than those fucking American Airlines Super-80s.
Did an AA Super-80 murder your family or something?
My main complaint with prop plains is the damn noise. Every prop-plane I've been on, you can barely hear the person next to you when they're yelling six inches* from your face.
I fly turboprops all the time. Pushers or wing mounted props are about the same amount of ambient noise in my opinion. Nose-mounted props are always insanely fucking noisy though. You can't slice your way through that much air and then run it across the fuselage without incurring some noise.
On the ground though, pusher props are like nails on a chalkboard. When you run turbine exhaust into the laminar flow and then through that chops the noise up, it is grating. One of the nicest planes I have ever flown in was a Piaggio P.180 Avanti. Insanely fast, very comfortable and it would climb like a fucking rocket. In the plane it was quiet and smooth. Outside of the airplane as it was taxiing or taking off...I do not think there is a metaphor for how much the noise sucked. Good thing they are off the ground in short order.
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@Intercourse said:
Did an AA Super-80 murder your family or something?
Man wouldn't you feel awful if you found out my family was killed in a Super-80 crash.
They weren't.
But I imagine you'd feel like shit.
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He'd ask the cause. If it was pilot error, he shouldn't feel bad.
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But I imagine you'd feel like shit.
My online persona has no conscience. My online persona also has a 12" penis.
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the engine pylon connects directly to your forehead.
Well, then, you know what to do.
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For various reasons unimportant to you,
I'm going to try to work this into more conversations.
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Agreed, that's an awesome phrase.