Chrome, why you do this?
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http://i.imgur.com/cDU5sZy.png
So we went from "address bar" to "address bar with search feature" to just "oversized search box"? What the fuck? There's SO MUCH FREE SPACE, and you know what would fit there? A fucking ADDRESS OF THE WEBSITE YOU'RE FUCKING VIEWING. So that, you know, you DON'T HAVE TO CLICK THIS NARROW FUCKING SPACE WHEN YOU WANT TO COPY IT.
Holy shit. Even if there is some weird config hack to make things like they were before, I'll now have to do it on every new Chrome install, and I still need to fix the ones I have now.
Was Google head of UI department on crack that day, or what?
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No repro?
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Was Google head of UI department on crack that day, or what?
The Google UI department is literally a pile of crack.
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What am I looking at? Because it looks like the built-in "search the url you just typed" functionality.
Chrome 36 on windows 7:
Compared to searching functionality:
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36.0.1985.143 m on Win8 here, and what you're not looking at is the actual address of the website you're viewing. See that "what.thedailywtf.com" button to the left? You have to click it to actually put the address in the FUCKING ADDRESS BAR.
And it's by default, I didn't click in the bar to activate the actual search feature.
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Version 36.0.1985.143 m win 7 en-us has no repro
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Hmm... My Win7 English version has no repro either, but Polish Win8 does this crap. Beats me.
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No repro on Win8 English.
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Real Programmers™ use English.
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Version 37.0.2062.76 beta-m / Win7, no repro.
That said I have seen this talked about as a new feature, the idea being to 'deprecate the URL'. Make the domain the only really visible bit to limit spoofing and the rest is 'unimportant' or something.
Bullshit of course.
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That's how it works on Safari for iPad (I assume iOS in general, really). You only see the full URL if you click to edit it.
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That said I have seen this talked about as a new feature, the idea being to 'deprecate the URL'.
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Because technology is complex and scary and we must hide from it!
Look, I get that Chrome wants to be the browser for EverybodyTM, but where's the browser for me? The one that shows me what the hell it's doing and that's all?
@Onyx - Don't say Opera. Opera's been shit since 12 stopped being standard.
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Lynx/Links/ELinks?
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It might be that you were selected for one of those 1% experiments! Congratulations. (No repro on Chrome 38.0.2125.0 dev-m (64-bit), btw.)
Maybe try and set
chrome://flags/#origin-chip-in-omnibox
to disabled? (When I change this flag from "Default" to "Enabled on all pages" I can repro.)
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@Onyx - Don't say Opera. Opera's been shit since 12 stopped being standard.
Full ack.
But at least it has a fucking proper Speed Dial still. And rest of it is Chrome. There's also an extension that allows it to use Chrome extensions (wrap your head around that one!), so I get Chrome with extras.
I'm not excusing new Opera. It's a piece of crap compared to 12. But compared to other crap, it still smells a tad less.
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Maybe try and set chrome://flags/#origin-chip-in-omnibox to disabled? (When I change this flag from "Default" to "Enabled on all pages" I can repro.)
Yep, that would be it. Have a metaphorical like, because I blew all real ones on the Likes thread.
Still, if they introduce it for every Chrome instance I run, I'll be mighty pissed.
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Look, I get that Chrome wants to be the browser for EverybodyTM, but where's the browser for me? The one that shows me what the hell it's doing and that's all?
Perhaps TDWTF should band together and start an open source browser that's not a massive UI/security/privacy WTF and is designed for power users and developers.
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Considering we've also talked about a forum software as well, I'd argue that a browser is even more unlikely to happen. Would be interesting though.
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It would never get off the ground. Know why?
"So do we want to do process separation?"
Followed by
"SHITSTORM"
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Yes, yes it would.
At least a forum software might actually get somewhere if we were to set our collective minds to it. But not for me, not at this time.
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http://www.pcworld.com/article/2150857/googles-canary-browser-flirts-with-killing-urls.html
At least I'm not hallucinating. Though I'm fairly certain I didn't switch to canary on this VM...
And still, this feature makes no damn sense. If they actually used the rest of the address bar for something, instead of placeholder text... But nope, just hiding stuff from the user, because... uh...
Full URLs are a barrier to browsing?
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Obviously we add command line options.
-P to do process separation, -pp to use single-process, and -p to post the browser's list of saved usernames and passwords to reddit in plaintext.
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Obviously we add command line options.
-P to do process separation, -pp to use single-process, and -p to post the browser's list of saved usernames and passwords to reddit in plaintext.
@blakeyrat's nightmare come true.
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Obviously we add command line options.
-P to do process separation, -pp to use single-process, and -p to post the browser's list of saved usernames and passwords to reddit in plaintext.
I wanted to suggest a checkbox.
But this is sufficiently evil for me to endorse it instead.
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-↔ to do process separation, -① to use single-process, and -😨 to post the browser's list of saved usernames and passwords to reddit in plaintext.
FTFY
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I wanted to suggest a checkbox.
But this is sufficiently evil for me to endorse it instead.
The checkbox would only work if it was tri-state.
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At least a forum software might actually get somewhere if we were to set our collective minds to it. But not for me, not at this time.
Hmmmmm... I'mn't even sure about that.
What features would people agree on?
Could you even get enough people to agree on platform (PHP or what)?
It doesn't look like you'll get a single line of code written unless you do it yourself.
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Why not infinni-scroll through all text entries, ever?
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Why not infinni-scroll through all text entries, ever?
We can name it the DiscoBrowser and have it download the entire Internet and InfiniScroll through it.
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Actually, when it was mooted, there was actually sufficient support for PHP as a platform that it would be doable.
Features, I suspect most people here are amenable to having grown up and intelligent discussion about such things and could understand if a feature was perceived as desirable even if they didn't agree with it.
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What features would people agree on?
Tagged posts and corresponding tag cloud.
Filed Under: cue disagreement
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Tagged posts and corresponding tag cloud.
Only if it breaks the whole forum at regular intervals.
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boomzilla said:
Tagged posts and corresponding tag cloud.Only if it breaks the whole forum at regular intervals.
We can make a checkbox for that option and put it right next to the checkboxes allowing HTML/JS injection.
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Features, I suspect most people here are amenable to having grown up and intelligent discussion about such things and could understand if a feature was perceived as desirable even if they didn't agree with it.
First things first: ncurses.
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We can make a checkbox for that option and put it right next to the checkboxes allowing HTML/JS injection.
I think that we could agree all breaking features would be optional. We would probably argue over what the defaults should be, though.
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That link toaster popped this:
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Oh! OH!
We need toasters in our browser. FOR EVERYTHING.
And Clippy. Maybe even two.
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Actually, when it was mooted, there was actually sufficient support for PHP as a platform that it would be doable.
I can only think of it going two ways:
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You want to make a bog-standard forum and after a while just realize you're re-inventing phpBB or whatever and just use that. Everyone just shrugs and life moves on.
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You try to make something new and different and it turns out all buggy and shit. Everyone hates it for different reasons, then shrug and life moves on.
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Don't forget Burnsify and Cornify plugins.
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What I would do is try to write the forum core in a very object-oriented manner with plenty of hooks to attach callbacks that do additional formatting, emit additional HTML, check for security, and other stuff. Basically the core is just a plugin system. Then the majority of basic forum features are developed as plugins so we'd be dogfooding our own plugin API, finally we'd hopefully have something that's easily extensible in a hopefully non-WTF way.
Versus SMF's huge find-and-replace thing, and IMO SMF is actually one of the saner free forum suites I've seen at least from a user/admin perspective.
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And Clippy. Maybe even two.
And then they can get in nonconstructive arguments for when you just don't have the energy.
Clippy1: "Hey it looks like you're writing a resume"
Clippy2: "It's not a resume, it's a design document"
Clippy1: "No it's resume. His name's at the top, dumbass!"
Clippy2: "Yeah, next to 'author', fucktard! How do you still have a job?"
Clippy1: "Look, man, it's not even your shift so just let me..."
Clippy2: "IT'S ALWAYS CLIPPY'S SHIFT!!!!"
Clippy3: "Guys, guys! We can't demonstrate this kind of dysfunction in front of the user!"
Clippy2: "YOU WANT A PIECE OF THIS!?!"
Clippy4: "Call 911! Someone call 911!"
Clippy5: (cuts telephone cord)
Clippy6: "The phone's dead!"
Clippy4: "Fuck! We're all dead!"
Clippy2: "AAARRRRGGGG!!!!!"
Clippy7: "No, not my trachea! I need that!"
Clippy8: "Here, you can borrow mine."
Clippy3: "Everyone just stay calm!"
Clippy1: "I'm not even supposed to be here today"
Clippy7: "Ah, that's better" (takes deep breath)
Clippy8: "gooogkkg ggroogkgkg"
Clippy9: (sees what's going on, immediately powers down his machine and goes home)
Clippy3: "What am I going to tell the boss?"
Clippy5: "They laughed at me. Who's laughing now?"
Clippy2: "WHAT HAVE I DONE!? I'M A MONSTER!"
Clippy9: (on phone) ...yeah, chinese sounds good...
Clippy8: "gggloogg - I think I need that back"
Microsoft Bob: "I knew I should have just outsourced"At this point, your screen is full of clippys and you lose the will to live.
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ClippyBB.
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Discourse bashing sidenote - I love how I'm notified of every single reply to this thread, even if it's not directed at me.
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Strangely, I don't seem to be bothered by all the notifications.
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You do know you can change it off of "Watching" at the bottom of the topic, right? They only set it to Watching automatically because you made the topic.
No, I don't know why they do.