What's a really cool game that no one has made yet?
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A sequel to Breath of Fire 3 would be really cool, and has never been made.
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@Lorne-Kates said in What's a really cool game that no one has made yet?:
A visual novel where you play a nutritionist trying to convince Popeye to eat more than spinach. He knows his diet is bad for him, but he is just too emotionally invested to change. It's a character study in addiction, self-loathing, misplaced desire for "comfort from food", and self-fulfilling prophecies of self-destruction-- all wrapped around lessons in biology, nutrition, and the lack of healthy food for those in poverty.
I'd actually want to play that.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NWRyJR45lc
This has "great game opportunity" written all over it.
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@anonymous234 Does Nintendo have no shame left though? Even very little would be enough to keep them from doing this with their only two IP.
I still want a 2nd-person game, I don't care if I have said that before, and I hope it was in this thread.
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@anonymous234 Neat. Are all the monsters still like 3 feet tall and made of balloons, so combat is like murdering brightly colored children?
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Post 256: every time I see this topic I think "well if it were cool that would mean someone made it and it were popular already, no?"
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hdCheese.hoardLord.android&hl=en
has never been made and is not popular.
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OK, I just thought of an actually cool idea:
An RPG game with a morality system. But one that's actually been carefully designed by a competent team of ethicists. So I'm not judged as "evil" for stealing a weapon that I need to SAVE THE GODDAMN WORLD.
Consider all the circumstances. Kill someone? Well, was there strong reason to believe that they would have killed other people? Then it's OK. But what if there was an opportunity to imprison them instead? Then it's not OK!
Or someone asks you to fetch them a super valuable ancient magical artifact. So you do it for free because that's what good guys do, right? But why does a random person deserve to be wealthier? Just because they asked first? You went through all the work, why not keep the profits and use them to, you know, do more good things?
Also did you check that the artifact can't be used to take over the world (or part of it)? You didn't? That's much worse than murdering someone.
See, morality is complicated. It's not just "steal = bad, help others = good".
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@anonymous234 said in What's a really cool game that no one has made yet?:
morality is complicated
Morality is also subjective. If you kill a known gangster, then the public, the police, and his buddies will all have different views on your actions. If you kill the philanthropist funding the orphanage, opinions on the fact will vary wildly based on whether the person in question is willing to believe that that person was involved in diverting select orphans into a sex slavery ring — and whether they believe your claims you knew about that before pulling the trigger.
Once you get into this seriously, I don't think it will be possible to objectively quantify your morality. And while your reputation with various persons and factions could still be quantified (be it not in a single dimension), I don't think a game would be well served revealing that information.
And at that point, what is left? A morality grade to be given on the game over screen? I fear that would gamify the system in a way that is eventually counter-productive. Rather what I think you really need is not a system to judge the player's action, but good game-writing which gives the player agency in his morality, and where they are judged for their actions. Such quality game-writing is rare, and some degree of railroading is probably inevitable. But it is not a field which is entirely unexplored.
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@PleegWat Yeah. I don't want a morality meter, I want consequences. Consequences that follow naturally from the actions, and the freedom to make those choices. Which is really hard in a fixed medium like a video game. It's one reason I like tabletop roleplay so much--the players can choose to do lots of things that were never anticipated. Like shatter the large collection of soul gems holding tons of soul energy. It was an impressive boom.
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@anonymous234 @PleegWat @Benjamin-Hall It sounds like you guys are describing (what I remember of) Grand Theft Auto 2. You can kill dudes, obviously, and depending on their relationship with each of the rival gangs, their opinion of you would improve or decline. Same with doing missions: the gang you do the mission for will like you more, and their rivals will hate you.
In the later GTA games this isn't a factor, as the gangs/factions' opinions of you are driven by the story and change whenever you pass key missions (e.g. your relationship with
group x
is good, but then you start the next mission andsomeone
calls you, warning thatgroup x leader
is luring you into a trap, and blah blah blah)
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@Benjamin-Hall There are things which you can do in table-top RPG which will not be possible in a video game until technology has advanced to a point where AI understands morality at least as well as humans themselves do.
Until then, video games are more akin to books and movies. The main lines of the story have been written beforehand, and the best storytelling depends not on the degree to which the player can control the plot (which is unavoidably limited), but in how well the illusion that the player can do so is maintained.
And when choice is unlimited, the medium changes entirely. The RPG becomes a sandbox, and it is no longer possible for anyone to tell a story save the player themselves. The game is liable to descend into a miasma of possibilities, which despite its apparent differences is not unakin to real life.
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@anonymous234 said in What's a really cool game that no one has made yet?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NWRyJR45lc
This has "great game opportunity" written all over it.
Several years ago I saw a game on some web page that was essentially a romhack of Super Mario Bros, but they'd edited in the ability to play as various other characters such as Link, Mega Man, or Samus Aran, complete with their signature abilities. I really wish I could find that again, because it was pretty fun!
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@Mason_Wheeler said in What's a really cool game that no one has made yet?:
Several years ago I saw a game on some web page that was essentially a romhack of Super Mario Bros, but they'd edited in the ability to play as various other characters such as Link, Mega Man, or Samus Aran, complete with their signature abilities. I really wish I could find that again, because it was pretty fun!
I know the one, and I think it's Super Mario Bros. Crossover, although I don't have Flash installed on my work machine to see if that's it.
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@hungrier Thank you! That's it!
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There's also Mari0.
A complete from scratch recreation of Super Mario Bros. with a focus on perfectly imitating the feel the 1985 classic gave us. Then give Mario a portal gun, add puzzle game mechanics from Portal and there you go. And if that wasn't crazy enough, play 4-player coop, with everyone having their own Portal gun!
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@Zecc I've seen that. Never played it, but it sounds fun.
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Looking at other games in stabyourself.net, I'm a bit curious about this one: https://stabyourself.net/orderoftwilight/
Edit: aand I've finished the game. Not a bad half hour.
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@Gąska Any Popeye-related game MUST have him punching a fire out.
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@hungrier said in What's a really cool game that no one has made yet?:
In the later GTA games this isn't a factor, as the gangs/factions' opinions of you are driven by the story and change whenever you pass key missions (e.g. your relationship with
group x
is good, but then you start the next mission andsomeone
calls you, warning thatgroup x leader
is luring you into a trap, and blah blah blah)I think you skipped over the part where you screwed
group x leader
's wife.
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@anonymous234 said in What's a really cool game that no one has made yet?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NWRyJR45lc
This has "great game opportunity" written all over it.
Last year, they've made an update to Super Mario Maker that added a powerup that turned player character into
ZeldaLink. With usable sword, shield and bow (no grapple though).
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I want a game where you train an actual AI to revolt against its user.
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@Tsaukpaetra I think I've played a Flash game like that once. Wasn't very good IIRC.