Vote of No Confidence
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heck I cant even see scrollbars on osx most of the time.
Some of us prefer to use non-broken OSes.
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we, the users, want.
You speak rather passionately in favour of this community for a guy I don't even know who the hell you are.
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For threads with a dozen pages or more, this is actually just completely false. For me anyway. Good luck finding which page your interesting post was on. Was it 3? Let's read it... no ok, 4? let's read that... 5?... 6?
Infinite scrolling does not solve this, obviously, but it also isn't the slap in the face you make it out to be.
I always found it pretty easy to locate a post. For one, I rarely went back through past pages, unless I was searching for a particular quote by somebody to shove back in their faces.
The deeply-nested quoting meant the context was almost always right there, so I didn't need to worry about the rest of the thread.
For me, the most annoying thing about infinite scrolling is how it messes up replying. After I reply, it takes me to the bottom of the page. In CS, I just did my replies in a new tab so my original tab was always at the last post I was reading. Here, I have to try to scroll back up to relocate the last post I was reading. I do not like that.
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are you retarded
Oh my god, @sam, you made @ender, of all people, hurl an insult. What have you wrought?!
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I completely agree, the main reason being that it's just too difficult to find the post(s) you want to reply to again.
...and even if you remember a phrase from the interesting post, that doesn't help you, because ^F is broken, because Discourse has to unload the posts that are too far away from your current viewport.
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You speak rather passionately in favour of this community for a guy I don't even know who the hell you are.
Wha? He's old horsehead logo.
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Oh my god, @sam, you made @ender, of all people, hurl an insult. What have you wrought?!
His polite, stoic Slovakenian facade has cracked!
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Here, I have to try to scroll back up to relocate the last post I was reading. I do not like that.
You have to be told to look for it, but there's a link that will take you back up. I forget what it looks like, but I'll figure it out again in a second after I click Reply.
EDIT: Ah, yes, it's an arrow pointing up that appears in the quoted bit.
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Has anyone stopped to consider that Alex and Jeff are just trolling us? Trying to see how riled up they can get us? And at some point they'll stop snickering and say "Just kidding, here's a bunch of bug fixes and normal forum navigation. We just wanted to see what you guys would do if we gave you something worse than Community Server."
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In CS, I just did my replies in a new tab so my original tab was always at the last post I was reading. Here, I have to try to scroll back up to relocate the last post I was reading. I do not like that.
Agreed. Tabbed browsing was one of the true breakthroughs in the browser experience, and now we're fucking it up again. This makes me sad.
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I'm shocked that anyone could be so intensely anti-paging
(took me about 5 seconds to carefully select the "I" in your post)
It has happened that I was at the top of a page and maybe wanted to see some previous posts, and sometimes the last post(s) of a page do not get seen by people who went to the last page.
But this problem is not related to endless scrolling, since it's fixed by "Resume Reading", as implemented by Vanilla and Discourse. It's an awesome feature, and takes away the need for me to click on the last page link and search for the new post myself.
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Does the forum seem to be slowing down? I know people have bitched about ajax loads. I click on a different topic to read and my browser just sits there for a few seconds before anything happens. Not any sort of a "Loading" or browser spinner or anything. That used to be pretty quick.
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Well there is a simple solution here that would be kind of awesome.
- Bookmark the posts you find interesting
- We add a mode that allows you to filter down to bookmarked posts in the topic
- Profit
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Slovakenian
Slovenian, I thought.
Either way, seeing @ender use potty language almost makes up for infinite scrolling.
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Slovenian, I thought.
Either way, seeing @ender use potty language almost makes up for infinite scrolling.
Maybe Slovenakian.
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Good metaphor, in that both work only if you look at them properly, lack any substance, and are difficult to navigate.
How do you navigate a rainbow?
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For one, I rarely went back through past pages, unless I was searching for a particular quote by somebody to shove back in their faces.
I think regardless of scroll method; if you don't remember salacious wording you can search for, you're going to have to scout entire thread sections anyway, or search for posts by user X and scout those.
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I hope not. Keeping an eye on perf here.
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I click on a different topic to read and my browser just sits there for a few seconds before anything happens. Not any sort of a "Loading" or browser spinner or anything. That used to be pretty quick.
It's up and down. It's a much nicer experience when it decides to be snappy.
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You speak rather passionately in favour of this community for a guy I don't even know who the hell you are.
That's understandable, given that I'd only joined the old forums a couple months ago and worked up a grand total of maybe 30 posts (I lurked for a while before that). But when someone like @sam has their head so far up their ass, I have a hard time not wanting to shit on their doorstep.
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It's a much nicer experience when it decides to be snappy.
To be honest, it's helping me feel at home by simulating CS sending me multiple copies of the tags database.
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How do you navigate a rainbow?
Seriously? That was his point. You're the one who compared Discourse to rainbows, and he turned it against you.
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The deeply-nested quoting meant the context was almost always right there, so I didn't need to worry about the rest of the thread.
Yes. Clicking open the quote bar like in DC is just a little extra work I don't care for. Gets in the way of reading.
Let me restate that so Jeff 'Reading' Atwood can hear it:
The requirement to manually open quote context gets in the way of reading.
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Here, I have to try to scroll back up to relocate the last post I was reading. I do not like that.
I did it the same way you did, but in DC, you click the up-arrow of the thing you quoted. Solved, I guess. No change required.
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Let me restate that so
Jeff 'Reading' Atwood@codinghorror can hear it:The requirement to manually open quote context gets in the way of reading.FTFY
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because ^F is broken
Discourse tries really hard to work around those pesky, stable browser features like "search" and "scrolling" and "tabs".
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I think regardless of scroll method; if you don't remember salacious wording you can search for, you're going to have to scout entire thread sections anyway, or search for posts by user X and scout those.
True. I almost always remember the exact wording of some part of what I'm looking for, though.
Aside: I find the idea of "threads" or "topics" gets in the way of reading. We just need one infinitely-scrolling page that we can filter.
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Wha? He's old horsehead logo.
Well who the hell is that? I don't remember no horse head shenanigans.
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I did it the same way you did, but in DC, you click the up-arrow of the thing you quoted. Solved, I guess. No change required.
Good point. I don't love it, but I can live with it.
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Aside: I find the idea of "threads" or "topics" gets in the way of reading. We just need one infinitely-scrolling page that we can filter.
I am actually non-ironically thinking of how such a thing could work. D:
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search for posts by user X and scout those
I haven't had occasion to do it here, yet, but that, at least should be easy. And lord knows I've done it enough in the past.
Filed Under: blakeyrat can't remember what he wrote but CS can
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blakeyrat can't remember what he wrote but CS can
The internet is a ruthless archive.
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Well who the hell is that? I don't remember no horse head shenanigans.
You don't remember your closest friend and next-door neighbor, Chad Horsington? He's your child's godfather! He sang at your wedding! He dragged you out of that burning building!
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Well who the hell is that? I don't remember no horse head shenanigans.
Yeah, I don't know who 90% of these people are, because I only ever identified people by their avatars.
And since a lot of people have decided to change avatars, or just use the weird abstract icons that are the default*, I have no idea what's going on.
(*They remind me of the Rorschach tests my court-appointed doctors used to administer. Man, that brings back some bad, repressed memories..)
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Does not apply in the EU
I'm pretty sure the EU is a fictional place made up to scare Libertarians.
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You don't remember your closest friend and next-door neighbor, Chad Horsington? He's your child's godfather! He sang at your wedding! He dragged you out of that burning building!
I may be mistaken, but I believe dhromed is shunning him after the Kentucky Derby Incident.
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I'm pretty sure the EU is a fictional place made up to scare Libertarians.
Haven't we always been at war with the EU?
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I'm pretty sure the EU is a fictional place made up to scare Libertarians.
"Wait, I don't understand--you're saying I have to take my machine gun to a socialized guncare center? But the trunk of my 8 MPG '57 Chevy Bel-Air is already full of dynamite, Nazi paraphernalia and tens of thousands of files containing personal information on my fellow citizens!"
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^F is broken
To be fair, / works instead. It just doesn't work as well as the browser's built-in searching does on a fully-loaded page.
Discoverability? What's that?
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HA ?
There's no visual indication in high-contrast mode (guess what, some of us have problems with bright backgrounds). some-large-number of other-large-number is not enough, and even if it was, I still can't quickly jump to arbitrary part of the discussion.
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That searches the entire forum.
Not for me it doesn't, or maybe I just picked terms that were only on this thread when testing? O_o
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or just use the weird abstract icons that are the default*, I have no idea what's going on.
Ghostery blocks Gravatar. For me, only about half the people here have avatars at all.
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Oh, you're right. I search for "broken" and assumed it would appear all over the site.
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I search for "broken" and assumed it would appear all over the site.
That should return the entire site.