WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else
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@Arantor said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
MSN.com/en-gb loads for me in Firefox.
It doesn't for me.
Though I suppose it could if I ever tried.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Status: MSN.com now redirects to a "Fuck you, install Edge!" screen.
I tried Firefox, Palemoon and Brave. Msn.com won't even load on any of them.
What a disappointment.
Windows 11 using FF121.0
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@dcon same here. It's probably the only time I've ever been to msn.com deliberately.
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Status: Windows Update For Business is coming!
Ah, so this is in contrast with the current home-grown patching, which does not chow CPU for days on end?
So glad we're moving up in the world...
Edit: Damn, they weren't kidding!
I'm doing nothing, the Details pane says nothing is happening, and yet the CPU graph clearly indicates struggle.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Windows Update For Business
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@Zerosquare said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Windows
Update For Business
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Msn.com won't even load on any of them.
That's a nice feature
Yes it is.
I will admit that I tend to use a lot of ... um ... 'non-standard' configurations, but I don't remember ever encountering a website (at least not a website run by a big company) where literally no browser works.
Good Job MSN
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@boomzilla slow bugle march plays
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@Arantor said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@boomzilla slow bugle march plays
Now I could never be sure, but I thought that I heard the sound of "Taps" being played. Gently.
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Status: Chrome is following in Microsoft's footsteps it seems...
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@Tsaukpaetra Still better than firefox on linux, which will go "Oh, ehm, no, I just updated. You'll need to restart before you can do that." Usually when you open a new tab.
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@PleegWat sometimes it just crashes, though.
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@PleegWat said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
firefox on linux
Yeah, a symptom of not having the binaries in version-named folders I suppose, like those weirdos at Google.
I can't help but wonder why Mozilla wouldn't adopt a similar scheme. Perhaps they're storing user profile data in with the executables and libraries of the program?
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@PleegWat said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra Still better than firefox on linux, which will go "Oh, ehm, no, I just updated. You'll need to restart before you can do that." Usually when you open a new tab.
Now with the snap version you get a popup telling you that you need to close it in order to update and I haven't seen one of those since it changed to snap.
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@PleegWat said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
firefox on linux, which will go "Oh, ehm, no, I just updated.
But can you use the trick with a policies file as on windows, and Firefox then tells you:
"Updates disabled by your system administrator"
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@BernieTheBernie said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@PleegWat said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
firefox on linux, which will go "Oh, ehm, no, I just updated.
But can you use the trick with a policies file as on windows, and Firefox then tells you:
"Updates disabled by your system administrator"
You can. Doesn't prevent it from being updated and thence broken in such a way.
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@Tsaukpaetra
So if I use such a policies file, Firefox will tell me what I want to read, but not obey to the rulez?
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@PleegWat said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra Still better than firefox on linux, which will go "Oh, ehm, no, I just updated. You'll need to restart before you can do that." Usually when you open a new tab.
You have automatic updates turned on or something? Because I don't so I only need to restart Firefox (and other browsers) when I actually install an update. Which tends to be every monday when I install every available update and then not bother with updates the rest of the week.
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@Atazhaia said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
You have automatic updates turned on or something?
As ordained by central IT, yes.
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@PleegWat said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
central IT
Ah, of course, the bane of sane IT handling. Running Linux on my work laptop I am spared from their shenanigans. I have been told I can't get support from them when running Linux, though. Woe is me, however shall I cope...
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@Atazhaia said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@PleegWat said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
central IT
Ah, of course, the bane of sane IT handling. Running Linux on my work laptop I am spared from their shenanigans. I have been told I can't get support from them when running Linux, though. Woe is me, however shall I cope...
…competently?
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Status: Was completely floored when my shiny Yubikey Just Worked when I tried using it to log into a shared PC.
Am I on the right Earth right now????
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Status: Was completely floored when my shiny Yubikey Just Worked when I tried using it to log into a shared PC.
Am I on the right Earth right now????
Maybe, just maybe something went ri... OH GOD, THE METEOR IS FINALLY ARRIVING!
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Status: Was completely floored when my shiny Yubikey Just Worked when I tried using it to log into a shared PC.
Am I on the right Earth right now????
On a more serious note. Are they difficult to setup? I'm thinking of getting one.
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@DogsB said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Status: Was completely floored when my shiny Yubikey Just Worked when I tried using it to log into a shared PC.
Am I on the right Earth right now????
On a more serious note. Are they difficult to setup? I'm thinking of getting one.
On a less serious note
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@DogsB said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Status: Was completely floored when my shiny Yubikey Just Worked when I tried using it to log into a shared PC.
Am I on the right Earth right now????
On a more serious note. Are they difficult to setup? I'm thinking of getting one.
Surprisingly no, despite multiple steps. It was more or less how I'd expect something with the word "universal" in its description to work.
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Status: .... Right.....
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Yesterday, Windows 11 decided to randomly fark all the file/folder permissions on one of my hard drives.
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: All your files are right where you left them. But their permissions aren't.
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@cvi said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
over a year of running Arch linux as main and other than a firmware/driver issue that borked output from my ARC A770M NUC for a couple of months making me switch to a different NUC until the firmware/drivers got sorted out..... i have ZERO regrets.
actually even with the need to switch i still have zero regrets. it was just an annoyance, but not unexpected given how new the ARC series is.
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@accalia For me, the reason for keeping Windows around has been gaming and the need to occasionally test things on Windows for a long time now. But gaming seems to be improving - over the holidays, I was on Linux only but was able to play quite a bunch of games via Steam/Proton. Needing Windows to test things on Windows is less likely to go away, though.
(Never tested ARC under Linux, but just checked now. Apparently there's even support for HW ray tracing. Time to dust off that ARC GPU that's somewhere.)
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@cvi said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Needing Windows to test things on Windows is less likely to go away, though.
That's why VirtualBox exist
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
That's why VirtualBox exist
I haven't messed with this in a long time, but GPU access (both compute and actual graphics) + VM has been tricky, at least if you want to use it from both the host and the guest(s). Maybe they've figured out something magic to make it work (without going for the $$$$$ enterprisey cards)? Either way, that still involves Windows in some form or shape rather than getting rid of it entirely.
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PCIe pass through is pretty consistent. it's how i used my windows VM for ages. got an EDID emulator plugged intot he card to make windows think there was a monitor attached and used nvidia gamestream at first, and when they killed it sunshine/moonlight to stream. works a treat.
not that i've even turned on that VM in six months, but it's how i do it when i do turn it on.
but yeah. ARC graphics support is grand. My issue was specific to the A770M in my NUC and how it's wired "a little weird" compared to the descrete cards.
looking forward to seeing what happens with battlemage and really hoping that intel doesnt' do a Google and cut the project. AMD and nvidia NEED some competition....
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@accalia Arch? Hm. I'm more of a basic bitch and been leaning more towards just running plain Debian (after being on/off about if I prefer Mint Regular or Mint Debian).
I do have my main uh, gamestation/workhorse PC running Windows due to application support and a MacBook for personal portable computing. But I also got a Linux PC at home and running Linux at work, so I cover all bases.
I was dabbling in PCIe Passthrough for a while. And, yeah, it works (even on the dubiously supported hardware I tried it on). I just dunno if it's worth the hassle. And speaking of, I need to test Windows on ARM on Mac so I can figure if I should make the jump to Apple Silicon on MacBook or not.
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@Atazhaia said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@accalia Arch? Hm. I'm more of a basic bitch and been leaning more towards just running plain Debian (after being on/off about if I prefer Mint Regular or Mint Debian).
Debian's great. 10/10 do recommend. it's what i run my servers on.
I got into arch for the desktop because at the time i jumped i needed a bleeding edge kernel for the ARC graphics and debian doesn't ship those. ;D after that i kinda just.... stuck with it.
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I spent a significant amount of time thinking that I had enabled the "automatically hide the taskbar" setting, mainly because that's what I normally do and because the taskbar seemed to be hiding itself properly.
One day, the taskbar showed up again and refused to hide itself. I assumed for a while it was because a program was keeping it activated. After some investigation, that turned out not to be the case. The auto-hide setting was in fact turned off. I opted not to turn the setting on because it I don't really care about the taskbar.
Today, the taskbar has disappeared again. Moving the mouse down to the bottom of the screen doesn't make the taskbar appear. Pressing the Windows key does make it appear though. Checking my settings again while writing this post, I can see that the auto-hide setting is turned on. In addition, using the mouse to make the taskbar visible works again.
Either I'm crazy, Windows 11 is crazy, Microsoft is gaslighting me, or Windows 11 is just a with a dubious veneer painted over it. Or it's all four things at once.
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@Placeholder said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Either I'm crazy, Windows 11 is crazy, Microsoft is gaslighting me, or Windows 11 is just a with a dubious veneer painted over it. Or it's all four things at once.
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Leading to
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@Placeholder said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
One day
Your settings synced with The Cloud, and everywhere you might have signed in might now be just a little more corrupt.
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@Placeholder There's an Old New Thing for that.
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@accalia said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
i needed a bleeding edge kernel for the ARC graphics and debian doesn't ship those.
What stops you from compiling it yourself?
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@accalia said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
i needed a bleeding edge kernel for the ARC graphics and debian doesn't ship those.
What stops you from compiling it yourself?
Have you seen how big the is?!?
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Have you seen how big the is?!?
My prevents me from screwing around with Arch and strongly push me to just use Debian stable
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Filed under: Arch-
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@accalia said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
i needed a bleeding edge kernel for the ARC graphics and debian doesn't ship those.
What stops you from compiling it yourself?
Clearly she's not that far gone... yet.
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@TwelveBaud said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Placeholder There's an Old New Thing for that.
Wait. So prohibiting something via group policy blocks the UI but does not block the API?
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@PleegWat said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
So prohibiting something via group policy blocks the UI but does not block the API?
You thought it was ever otherwise? It's that sort of thing which is why so many people still regard Windows as having clown-shoes security, despite some parts of the system actually being competently done: the security controls are often in entirely the wrong places, put in by people who can't quite figure that "evil hackers" don't quite play by the same set of rules as MCSEs. It's like putting a padlock on a screen door.
It's security puppet theatre!