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@dcon Try anyway... if it's the first printing, then it's an original :p
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@Kamil-Podlesak said in WTF Bites:
:is a completely valid character in OS X filenames and I use it all the time.Then I wonder how you do that.
Trying this:
results in this warning:
Translated, that says “The name ':' cannot be used. Use a name with fewer characters or a name without punctuation.”
The only way I can do it is to use the terminal, where something like
touch :works fine — but produces a file that, in the Finder, looks like this:
@Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:
I thought it was special-cased for backwards compatibility with Classic MacOS (where it was used as a path delimiter).
HFS+ still does, and I assume APFS does as well. See above — there’s a complicated shuffle going on behind the scenes with
:and/so that Unix utilities work fine if you type /.I remember Finder being a bit funny about it, but everything else is quite happy.
Not that I can see. In fact, I tried saving a file with
:as a filename in TextEdit, and it doesn’t allow it — when you enter : in the filename field of the Save dialog, what you type is-. And also, it looks on a quick, very non-exhaustive check, in every other application that uses OS-provided save dialogs.
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@Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:
I thought it was special-cased for backwards compatibility with Classic MacOS (where it was used as a path delimiter).
HFS+ still does, and I assume APFS does as well.
Filesystems don't use directory separator at all, because each component is stored separately, referring to the respective object. It is the kernel that chooses directory separator.
See above — there’s a complicated shuffle going on behind the scenes with
:and/so that Unix utilities work fine if you type /.The image above actually suggests that the kernel (which is a BSD unix kernel) uses
/, otherwisetouch :wouldn't create anything but just try to update mtime of root and most likely get a permission error. Which means it is the cocoa framework that somehow maps the characters in an attempt to make them equivalent.
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@dcon Try anyway... if it's the first printing, then it's an original :p
His first printings were yellowed into unreadability even before the last time he had to go in person
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I know Net Neutrality is a divisive topic for you guys, but race-based QoS? That's pushing it a bit too far.
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@jinpa Arkansas ranks pretty low in a lot of things. Internet connectivity for any particular ethnic group is probably among the least of their problems.
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@jinpa Of course it does! You can't simply plug Ethernet cable into another Ethernet cable.
(joke stolen from NTB)
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF Bites:
@jinpa Of course it does! You can't simply plug Ethernet cable into another Ethernet cable.
(joke stolen from NTB)
You need a gender changer!
(INB4
null modem)
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See above — there’s a complicated shuffle going on behind the scenes with
:and/so that Unix utilities work fine if you type /.The image above actually suggests that the kernel (which is a BSD unix kernel) uses
/, otherwisetouch :wouldn't create anything but just try to update mtime of root and most likely get a permission error. Which means it is the cocoa framework that somehow maps the characters in an attempt to make them equivalent.This. As I've already said, I am using
:in filenames all the time without any problem... but I am using OS X as a UNIX. I have honestly never noticed that in Finder, those files really have/replaced by:- TILAnd, btw, it's not just the
Blakey-repellentcommandline applications that work just fine. Multiplatform applications like Chorme, Firefox, anything in Java (Idea) are also completely fine with no quirks. Even Slack works just fine. Teams and Outlook don't, but
Edit: Omg, I have tried to attach a file with colon to a new email in Outlook and now I cannnot attach ANYTHING AT ALL. My Outlook is just broken. Great.
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:
@loopback0 said in WTF Bites:
they support the latest two versions of Firefox
So you have to update Firefox every 7 seconds or Twitch stops working?
It's a live streaming site, you're supposed to get updates live streamed straight from the Firefox factory as they compile
e:
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@Kamil-Podlesak said in WTF Bites:
Edit: Omg, I have tried to attach a file with colon to a new email in Outlook and now I cannnot attach ANYTHING AT ALL. My Outlook is just broken. Great.
I have no sympathy, as one who tempts fate myself.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF Bites:
@jinpa Of course it does! You can't simply plug Ethernet cable into another Ethernet cable.
(joke stolen from NTB)
Almost. Just add a little thing inbetween:
and now the two cables just go into the same thingy, in opposite holes
and the fun really works!
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@Kamil-Podlesak said in WTF Bites:
I am using
:in filenames all the time without any problem... but I am using OS X as a UNIX.That’s what I was expecting already, TBH.
I have honestly never noticed that in Finder, those files really have
/replaced by:- TILOther way round. If there’s
:in the filename as displayed in a terminal window, the Finder shows it as/.Edit: Omg, I have tried to attach a file with colon to a new email in Outlook and now I cannnot attach ANYTHING AT ALL. My Outlook is just broken. Great.
That would be another case of Microsoft preferring to roll their own, I think. I was trying to do some reading up on what exactly is going on, and found an ancient thread on StackExchange about it which mentions at the bottom:
Finder.app won’t allow you to enter a colon, and won’t work properly with filenames that contain it. The UNIX layer won’t allow you to work with files containing a slash (or rather; it translates it to a colon). And then there are other applications (such as Microsoft Word) who choke on either. For instance, if you save a document in TextEdit.app under the filename foo/bar.docx (which works), Microsoft Word will be unable to open it.
Outlook probably has similar issues.
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Was just at Lidl when I saw this price for cucumbers:
€0.89 a piece using their fucking app, €1.39 otherwise. That’s “saving 35%”, but really it means it’s 56% more expensive if you don’t use it. By the way, the “organic” cucumbers you’d expect to be more expensive go for €1.19 a piece.
Yeah, fuck you, I’m not giving in to your extortion attempts to install some spyware, and I’m also not paying a 50% penalty. I just won’t buy it at all.
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Is the difference just using their app or not, or is "Lidl Plus" some kind of monthly subscription? I'd suspect the latter.
EDIT: no, it appears to be the former. But apparently you need to manually "enable" each thing you buy in the app, otherwise you don't get the rebate.
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@topspin it's just a rewards scheme, doesn't seem like it's a big deal.
Is the price of cucumbers always lower for Lidl Plus members, or is it a time-limited offer for Lidl Plus members (like the date range suggests)?
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@loopback0 Almost certainly only a couple of days, and then it'll be another item that will be cheaper for the app users.
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@topspin The price is -.89? Is there a quantity limit? I'd buy a truckload if they pay me .89 for each one.
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@HardwareGeek this uses less ink than writing 0.89 but means the same thing. No negative prices for you.
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this uses less ink
I hope they're passing that savings on to their customers.
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@HardwareGeek Lidl are one of the cheaper supermarkets.
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@HardwareGeek this uses less ink than […]
It is also DELTA UNIFORM MIKE BRAVO.
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this uses less ink
It's an electronic label but yes, it's a not-uncommon way of writing such prices.
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I haven't walked into a physical supermarket in several years, the hell would I know about the label?
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@loopback0 said in WTF Bites:
@topspin it's just a rewards scheme, doesn't seem like it's a big deal.
Well, fuck off with your reward schemes too. They call themselves a “discounter” because, originally, they already discounted the fucking rewards and just gave everyone the reduced price without the bullshit. But that was before data harvesting.
Is the price of cucumbers always lower for Lidl Plus members, or is it a time-limited offer for Lidl Plus members (like the date range suggests)?
No idea, but it being significantly more expensive than the “organic” alternative certainly makes it feel like this is a punishment and not a limited time offer. I doubt that normally the organic one is cheaper too.
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:
@loopback0 said in WTF Bites:
It's an electronic label
It uses
lessfewer electrons?It’s been written that way for ages, people are used to it. I guess it makes more sense if you do it for the cents part, i.e. 1,- instead of 1,00.
Although I didn’t notice originally,
is that they used a decimal point (as used in English locale) instead of a decimal comma (as used in Germany).
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It’s been written that way for ages, people are used to it.
I know, but
is that they used a decimal point ... instead of a decimal comma
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@HardwareGeek I mean, I barely notice anymore because I’m used to writing a decimal point for programming. And I hate it when excel fucks shit up depending on user locale. So there’s good reasons to use a decimal autocorrection.cancel (LOL, the iPhone literally inserted this here, so I’m leaving it in for peak
. No idea if it’s the phone or 
that fucked this up) … a decimal point.
But you’d think a shop can correctly format numbers for their price labels, right?
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using their fucking app,
Safeway has digital coupons too. Fuck that, I figure out what I need (aside from some critical things) by walking the aisles.
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using their fucking app,
Safeway has digital coupons too. Fuck that, I figure out what I need (aside from some critical things) by walking the aisles.
I do nearly all my grocery shopping online. The store's website is kind enough to tell me if there are coupons applicable to the items I'm selecting, as well as additional conditions (such as minimum purchase*) in order to take advantage of those coupons. No app necessary, although they have an app, and I think there may be additional savings possible by using it. Nope; I'll stick to the website, TYVM.
* My favorite is when the offer is something like "$5 off when you buy $20 of _________", and the single item of ________ I actually want is $19.98. Thanks so much.
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Well, fuck off with your reward schemes too.
Meh, I don't see what the big deal is.
But that was before data harvesting.
If they want to track what I'm buying they can already do this by linking what I buy to my card number. At least this way I get something out of it.
They call themselves a “discounter” because, originally, they already discounted the fucking rewards and just gave everyone the reduced price without the bullshit.
Which Lidl (here at least) still weekly do on lots of products that don't require Lidl Plus.
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:
@topspin The price is -.89? Is there a quantity limit? I'd buy a truckload if they pay me .89 for each one.
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@topspin I've given up and just use "." everywhere for decimal point.
The real problem is "," for thousands separators. (Fortunately C++ standardized on ' which I totally consider to be a valid reason to tell english-pendants to pound dirt.)
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Although I didn’t notice originally,
is that they used a decimal point (as used in English locale) instead of a decimal comma (as used in Germany).I think that's the part that made me 😕 the hardest. It didn't trigger my "think different" module.
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this uses less ink than writing 0.89
You've just blown my mind.
Also,
-.11uses even less ink.
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:
@loopback0 said in WTF Bites:
It's an electronic label
It uses
lessfewer electrons?It’s been written that way for ages, people are used to it. I guess it makes more sense if you do it for the cents part, i.e. 1,- instead of 1,00.
Although I didn’t notice originally, is that they used a decimal point (as used in English locale) instead of a decimal comma (as used in Germany).Probably an American electronic label.
Or come to think of it, more likely Chinese, otherwise it would say "günstiger".
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:
this uses less ink
I hope they're passing that savings on to their customers.
Only Lidl Plus customers
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using their fucking app,
Safeway has digital coupons too. Fuck that, I figure out what I need (aside from some critical things) by walking the aisles.
I have a bookmarklet for my market's page that clicks all the coupons. There are very few that I actually end up using.
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@loopback0 said in WTF Bites:
Well, fuck off with your reward schemes too.
Meh, I don't see what the big deal is.
But that was before data harvesting.
If they want to track what I'm buying they can already do this by linking what I buy to my card number. At least this way I get something out of it.
And maybe they'll keep stuff in stock.
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@loopback0 said in WTF Bites:
If they want to track what I'm buying they can already do this by linking what I buy to my card number. At least this way I get something out of it.
Which is only half of the job.
The other half is sending you personalized ads. They can send them to your phone, but not to your credit card.Good or bad idea: a credit card with screen to display ads.
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Although I didn’t notice originally, is that they used a decimal point (as used in English locale) instead of a decimal comma (as used in Germany).
Ûses less ink.
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@loopback0 said in WTF Bites:
@topspin it's just a rewards scheme, doesn't seem like it's a big deal.
Is the price of cucumbers always lower for Lidl Plus members, or is it a time-limited offer for Lidl Plus members (like the date range suggests)?
It's not really a rewards scheme here yet. They haven't gone full tesco yet. It's just an app that spams you their offers and I suspect an easier way to track who's buying what. Sometimes you'll get a minor discount on cabbages but I rarely see it.
I use my sister's QR code. The metrics for her must be odd. She does her grocery shopping in one part of the country and then takes frequent boozey trips to Dublin. Sometimes on the same day!
Tagently on topic. Butterbeans are 83 cent now. 83 cent! They used to be 35 cent.
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@boomzilla said in WTF Bites:
@loopback0 said in WTF Bites:
Well, fuck off with your reward schemes too.
Meh, I don't see what the big deal is.
But that was before data harvesting.
If they want to track what I'm buying they can already do this by linking what I buy to my card number. At least this way I get something out of it.
And maybe they'll keep stuff in stock.
They can just track their stock by ... tracking their stock. They don't need to know what I, specifically, buy and in which combination to know how much gets bought in total.
@boomzilla said in WTF Bites:
I have a bookmarklet for my market's page that clicks all the coupons.
Which just proves how ridiculous it is.
@loopback0 said in WTF Bites:
If they want to track what I'm buying they can already do this by linking what I buy to my card number. At least this way I get something out of it.
Pretty sure it's not that easy.
They can only store and process my data if I give them permission to do so. I'm not signing any agreements when I pay with credit card, so they can only process the data as required for the purchase. If I sign up to their loyalty apps, I explicitly give them permission to do whatever the fuck they want with it for profiling me.
And when I pay cash, they don't get any data to begin with. Except that someone bought something, which is all they should need.
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@boomzilla said in WTF Bites:
I have a bookmarklet for my market's page that clicks all the coupons.
Which just proves how ridiculous it is.
Perhaps. Still better than the old physical coupons.
@loopback0 said in WTF Bites:
If they want to track what I'm buying they can already do this by linking what I buy to my card number. At least this way I get something out of it.
Pretty sure it's not that easy.
They can only store and process my data if I give them permission to do so. I'm not signing any agreements when I pay with credit card, so they can only process the data as required for the purchase. If I sign up to their loyalty apps, I explicitly give them permission to do whatever the fuck they want with it for profiling me.
And when I pay cash, they don't get any data to begin with. Except that someone bought something, which is all they should need.Why is it important to you that they don't know what you buy?
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@boomzilla wrong way to look at it. Why would I like being profiled? And as the data mining companies tell their customers (the actual ones, not the products who think they are the customers), you can infer a whole lot more from this data than “what I buy”.
