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  • @dkf … and it's much easier to reason about complex code in such environment. The fact so many things are mutable in Java that really shouldn't is one of the reasons I'm not fond of that language.


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    @boomzilla said in WTF Bites:

    This POJO vs VO vs etc gives me strong @blakeyrat urges.

    Fuck. Wanted Jeff urges....


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    In today’s episode of the EU regulates the way you hold your dick when pissing:

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    WTF is this?! :wtf:

    :mocking_spongebob: It’s so that you return the bottle including the cap instead of throwing the cap away.

    Yeah, you morons. I’ve always done that, and probably everybody else. You don’t need to glue it to the fucking bottle so I have to rip it off, or alternatively, you have to rip it off before reusing.
    Throwing it away separately is more work, so you don’t need to come up with bullshit to prevent that.



  • @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    so I have to rip it off

    Tip: don’t. I quickly found that these bottle caps work better if you do leave them on as intended, rather than ripping them off the retaining ring like most people want to do when first confronted with them. (Over here, Coca Cola bottles changed to these about a year ago, then the other Coca Cola brands like Fanta did as well a little later, but I don’t think I’ve seen any other brands with this. So is this an EU ruling, or Coca Cola trying to get their apparently valuable bottle caps back?)

    Though I must say I also don’t quite see the reason for this. Do so many bottles end up thrown away with their caps elsewhere that this is necessary? I know I always put the cap back onto the bottle when it’s empty.



  • I think this stems from the fact that for a long time, the bottle was recyclable but the lid was not, so they did get separated and the lids were tossed.

    Now I guess that’s changed?


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    @Arantor I've never been told that the lids weren't recyclable. I've always put the lid back on before binning the bottles and AFAIK everyone I know does the same.


  • Considered Harmful

    @Gurth said in WTF Bites:

    Tip: don’t. I quickly found that these bottle caps work better if you do leave them on as intended

    But nevertheless worse than before.



  • @loopback0 I’m sure when the “blue box” recycling scheme came around, it was a specific mention on there. For years we duly rinsed the bottles and threw out the lids, something we’d never have done otherwise.


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    @Arantor 🤷 I'm not saying you're wrong just I wasn't told that. But as the rules around recycling differ by council it could just be a regional thing.


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    @loopback0 said in WTF Bites:

    @Arantor I've never been told that the lids weren't recyclable. I've always put the lid back on before binning the bottles and AFAIK everyone I know does the same.

    I remember back in the day when you brought the bottles to the recycling place to get your deposits back (California) they didn't want the caps.



  • @Arantor said in WTF Bites:

    @loopback0 I’m sure when the “blue box” recycling scheme came around, it was a specific mention on there. For years we duly rinsed the bottles and threw out the lids, something we’d never have done otherwise.

    In 🇸🇪 that was never the case from what I can remember. Next year, we have done recycling of cans 40 years, and plastic bottles 30 years. The cap is also recycled here. Glass bottles (for beer mostly) have been reused for more than 100 years here as well.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    For the people not familiar with iOS who won't read TFA:

    you can choose your own ringtone, text tone, and alert sounds for voicemail and system apps like mail and calendar alerts. But these options do not influence the sounds of alerts from third-party apps. As of iOS 17.0, the Settings app simply offers no controls to change the sounds that third-party apps make.

    Third-party apps that use their own custom sounds for push notifications will continue to do so. But many apps, including social media apps like Twitter and Facebook, do not include a custom sound and rely on the system default. For those apps, iPhone users will now hear ‘Rebound’ — whether they like it or not.



  • @loopback0 said in WTF Bites:

    @Arantor 🤷 I'm not saying you're wrong just I wasn't told that. But as the rules around recycling differ by council it could just be a regional thing.

    My original hometown is Tory-lite suburban hellscape, can entirely believe they did that for cost saving reasons.



  • @Carnage said in WTF Bites:

    @Arantor said in WTF Bites:

    @loopback0 I’m sure when the “blue box” recycling scheme came around, it was a specific mention on there. For years we duly rinsed the bottles and threw out the lids, something we’d never have done otherwise.

    In 🇸🇪 that was never the case from what I can remember. Next year, we have done recycling of cans 40 years, and plastic bottles 30 years. The cap is also recycled here. Glass bottles (for beer mostly) have been reused for more than 100 years here as well.

    The UK is not grown up about this. Plenty of people here simply can’t be armed to recycle because it’s too much like effort.



  • @loopback0 said in WTF Bites:

    For the people not familiar with iOS who won't read TFA:

    you can choose your own ringtone, text tone, and alert sounds for voicemail and system apps like mail and calendar alerts. But these options do not influence the sounds of alerts from third-party apps. As of iOS 17.0, the Settings app simply offers no controls to change the sounds that third-party apps make.

    Third-party apps that use their own custom sounds for push notifications will continue to do so. But many apps, including social media apps like Twitter and Facebook, do not include a custom sound and rely on the system default. For those apps, iPhone users will now hear ‘Rebound’ — whether they like it or not.

    I wonder what will happen to people like me who turn off all the sounds of all the notifications with the exception of the alarm clock and the call ringer.


  • BINNED

    @loopback0
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    My phone’s been on silent since at least 2010.



  • @Arantor said in WTF Bites:

    I wonder what will happen to people like me who turn off all the sounds of all the notifications with the exception of the alarm clock and the call ringer.

    Tim Cook will personally come to your home and punch you.


  • BINNED

    @Gurth said in WTF Bites:

    Tip: don’t.

    Pro-tip: I'm now doing it out of spite. 🎉

    I don't need their plastic shit to prevent me from doing something I never did in the first place.

    I know I always put the cap back onto the bottle when it’s empty.

    Of course.



  • @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    @loopback0
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    My phone’s been on silent since at least 2010.

    My iPad is routinely a music player in my office so I can’t just put it on silent.



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    @Arantor said in WTF Bites:

    @Carnage said in WTF Bites:

    @Arantor said in WTF Bites:

    @loopback0 I’m sure when the “blue box” recycling scheme came around, it was a specific mention on there. For years we duly rinsed the bottles and threw out the lids, something we’d never have done otherwise.

    In 🇸🇪 that was never the case from what I can remember. Next year, we have done recycling of cans 40 years, and plastic bottles 30 years. The cap is also recycled here. Glass bottles (for beer mostly) have been reused for more than 100 years here as well.

    The UK is not grown up about this. Plenty of people here simply can’t be armed to recycle because it’s too much like effort.

    Recycling plastic is generally worth no amount of effort. 97% scam.


  • Fake News

    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    In today’s episode of the EU regulates the way you hold your dick when pissing:

    WTF is this?! :wtf:

    :mocking_spongebob: It’s so that you return the bottle including the cap instead of throwing the cap away.

    Does the packaging state that's what it is for?
    I would have imagined it's just there to not drop your bottle cap in a car or during a walk or something, like an in-between version of the regular cap that fully comes off, and those "sports" bottles which have a similar flip-top cap covering a spout which you can drink from if you squeeze the bottle.


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    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    @loopback0
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    My phone’s been on silent since at least 2010.

    Simikiar, mine has been on vibrate since I first got one. Now completely silent since I got a fitbit like thingies since about 2016.

    I wish I could mute all app sounds. Revolut makes some god awful ui noise when I use it with my headphones on.


  • Banned

    @Arantor said in WTF Bites:

    @Carnage said in WTF Bites:

    @Arantor said in WTF Bites:

    @loopback0 I’m sure when the “blue box” recycling scheme came around, it was a specific mention on there. For years we duly rinsed the bottles and threw out the lids, something we’d never have done otherwise.

    In 🇸🇪 that was never the case from what I can remember. Next year, we have done recycling of cans 40 years, and plastic bottles 30 years. The cap is also recycled here. Glass bottles (for beer mostly) have been reused for more than 100 years here as well.

    The UK is not grown up about this. Plenty of people here simply can’t be armed to recycle because it’s too much like effort.

    I used to religiously recycle everything I can. Now I don't bother, and yes, it's because it's too much effort. There's not a single recycle bin in the entire city I live in - you're supposed to drive up with all your recyclables to the collection point, and you have to come up with your own bags too.


  • Banned

    @Arantor said in WTF Bites:

    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    @loopback0
    IMG_8069.jpeg

    My phone’s been on silent since at least 2010.

    My iPad is routinely a music player in my office so I can’t just put it on silent.

    Silent mode silences media audio too? That's beyond retarded.


  • Considered Harmful

    @Gustav said in WTF Bites:

    @Arantor said in WTF Bites:

    @Carnage said in WTF Bites:

    @Arantor said in WTF Bites:

    @loopback0 I’m sure when the “blue box” recycling scheme came around, it was a specific mention on there. For years we duly rinsed the bottles and threw out the lids, something we’d never have done otherwise.

    In 🇸🇪 that was never the case from what I can remember. Next year, we have done recycling of cans 40 years, and plastic bottles 30 years. The cap is also recycled here. Glass bottles (for beer mostly) have been reused for more than 100 years here as well.

    The UK is not grown up about this. Plenty of people here simply can’t be armed to recycle because it’s too much like effort.

    I used to religiously recycle everything I can. Now I don't bother, and yes, it's because it's too much effort. There's not a single recycle bin in the entire city I live in - you're supposed to drive up with all your recyclables to the collection point, and you have to come up with your own bags too.

    Drive? Like everybody, by themselves? Fantastic idea. Much environment, so wow. :trwtf:


  • Banned

    @LaoC Mericuh!


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @Gustav said in WTF Bites:

    @Arantor said in WTF Bites:

    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    @loopback0
    IMG_8069.jpeg

    My phone’s been on silent since at least 2010.

    My iPad is routinely a music player in my office so I can’t just put it on silent.

    Silent mode silences media audio too?

    It does not


  • BINNED

    @JBert said in WTF Bites:

    Does the packaging state that's what it is for?

    It doesn't, but several news articles I've googled say that that's the purpose of the corresponding EU regulation ("Tethered Caps"), which should apply starting 2024. ("In Germany 97% of PET bottles get returned / re-used, 95% of the caps." That would leave 2% of idiots who lose the caps who are being "helped" by this.)


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    https://developer.apple.com/documentation/contacts/cnlabelcontactrelationyoungercousinmotherssiblingsdaughterorfatherssistersdaughter

    Global Variable
    CNLabelContactRelationYoungerCousinMothersSiblingsDaughterOrFathersSistersDaughter
    The label for the contact’s mother’s sibling’s younger daughter or father’s sister’s younger daughter.

    :wat:

    There's a bunch of these.





  • @boomzilla: It's probably to support languages/cultures that have a lot of specific words for family members:
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    @boomzilla said in WTF Bites:

    https://developer.apple.com/documentation/contacts/cnlabelcontactrelationyoungercousinmotherssiblingsdaughterorfatherssistersdaughter

    Global Variable
    CNLabelContactRelationYoungerCousinMothersSiblingsDaughterOrFathersSistersDaughter
    The label for the contact’s mother’s sibling’s younger daughter or father’s sister’s younger daughter.

    :wat:

    There's a bunch of these.

    Mother's sibling's daughter but only Father's sister's daughter?

    edit: Father's brother's daughter is a separate entry.


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    @Gurth said in WTF Bites:

    their apparently valuable bottle caps back

    Fuck yeah they're worth something!


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    @boomzilla said in WTF Bites:

    https://developer.apple.com/documentation/contacts/cnlabelcontactrelationyoungercousinmotherssiblingsdaughterorfatherssistersdaughter

    Global Variable
    CNLabelContactRelationYoungerCousinMothersSiblingsDaughterOrFathersSistersDaughter
    The label for the contact’s mother’s sibling’s younger daughter or father’s sister’s younger daughter.

    :wat:

    There's a bunch of these.

    Blame China and the like for having that kind of relationship detail have meaning.



  • @JBert said in WTF Bites:

    Does the packaging state that's what it is for?

    Yes.

    I have a recent bottle of Coke in front of me and the lid actually says on it "I am attached to recycle together".



  • You should tell them on Twitter than the Bad Puns Thread is :arrows:



  • @Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:

    @boomzilla: It's probably to support languages/cultures that have a lot of specific words for family members:
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    I see there that English has one too that I didn’t know yet: anunt, meaning your father’s sister.



  • @Arantor said in WTF Bites:

    I have a recent bottle of Coke in front of me and the lid actually says on it "I am attached to recycle together".

    That’s better than here, which just say LAAT DOP AAN FLES, “leave cap attached to bottle”. I had to try and look it up just now to find an article from last year (translated version) that explains that Coca Cola claims it’s doing this for environmental reasons, but a little line near the start shows that it’s actually to meet EU regulations.


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    @Gurth said in WTF Bites:

    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    so I have to rip it off

    Tip: don’t. I quickly found that these bottle caps work better if you do leave them on as intended, rather than ripping them off the retaining ring like most people want to do when first confronted with them. (Over here, Coca Cola bottles changed to these about a year ago, then the other Coca Cola brands like Fanta did as well a little later, but I don’t think I’ve seen any other brands with this. So is this an EU ruling, or Coca Cola trying to get their apparently valuable bottle caps back?)

    Though I must say I also don’t quite see the reason for this. Do so many bottles end up thrown away with their caps elsewhere that this is necessary? I know I always put the cap back onto the bottle when it’s empty.

    The way I've heard it, the coca-cola company has a bottling plant in Belgium which serves the entire Benelux, and this attached cap malarkey is mandatory in Belgium.


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    @Gurth said in WTF Bites:

    @Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:

    @boomzilla: It's probably to support languages/cultures that have a lot of specific words for family members:
    8fa89ca3-0e66-498d-8a09-9578defeaa15-image.png

    I see there that English has one too that I didn’t know yet: anunt, meaning your father’s sister.

    Never heard of that before, either.


  • Java Dev

    @boomzilla said in WTF Bites:

    @Arantor said in WTF Bites:

    @Carnage said in WTF Bites:

    @Arantor said in WTF Bites:

    @loopback0 I’m sure when the “blue box” recycling scheme came around, it was a specific mention on there. For years we duly rinsed the bottles and threw out the lids, something we’d never have done otherwise.

    In 🇸🇪 that was never the case from what I can remember. Next year, we have done recycling of cans 40 years, and plastic bottles 30 years. The cap is also recycled here. Glass bottles (for beer mostly) have been reused for more than 100 years here as well.

    The UK is not grown up about this. Plenty of people here simply can’t be armed to recycle because it’s too much like effort.

    Recycling plastic is generally worth no amount of effort. 97% scam.

    Certainly regarding the recycling of ½ litre bottles they introduced here recently, it's at least as much about them not ending up in the environment as about the recycling/reuse aspect.


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    @PleegWat said in WTF Bites:

    @boomzilla said in WTF Bites:

    @Arantor said in WTF Bites:

    @Carnage said in WTF Bites:

    @Arantor said in WTF Bites:

    @loopback0 I’m sure when the “blue box” recycling scheme came around, it was a specific mention on there. For years we duly rinsed the bottles and threw out the lids, something we’d never have done otherwise.

    In 🇸🇪 that was never the case from what I can remember. Next year, we have done recycling of cans 40 years, and plastic bottles 30 years. The cap is also recycled here. Glass bottles (for beer mostly) have been reused for more than 100 years here as well.

    The UK is not grown up about this. Plenty of people here simply can’t be armed to recycle because it’s too much like effort.

    Recycling plastic is generally worth no amount of effort. 97% scam.

    Certainly regarding the recycling of ½ litre bottles they introduced here recently, it's at least as much about them not ending up in the environment as about the recycling/reuse aspect.

    For sure. Getting garbage into the garbage is important, but almost none of the plastic that goes into any kind of alleged recycling process actually gets recycled. And that's before we deal with the irrational western hysteria over straws (and now bottlecaps) based on Asians using rivers for landfills.


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    @boomzilla said in WTF Bites:

    based on Asians using rivers for landoceanfills.

    FTFNorthPacificGarbagePatchKids.



  • @boomzilla said in WTF Bites:

    Recycling plastic is generally worth no amount of effort. 97% scam.

    I think the only plastic my city will take is clear. That does not include clear food clamshells. So, basically, water bottles.


  • BINNED

    @boomzilla the plastic bottles specifically do get recycled (and the thicker bottles are multi-trip anyway). For the rest, I’m not sure if that’s more of a US thing being too incompetent to do recycling or a general thing and the US’s ridiculous system not making a difference because more sensible ones end up being just as terrible anyway.


  • BINNED

    @Gurth said in WTF Bites:

    @Arantor said in WTF Bites:

    I have a recent bottle of Coke in front of me and the lid actually says on it "I am attached to recycle together".

    That’s better than here, which just say LAAT DOP AAN FLES, “leave cap attached to bottle”. I had to try and look it up just now to find an article from last year (translated version) that explains that Coca Cola claims it’s doing this for environmental reasons, but a little line near the start shows that it’s actually to meet EU regulations.

    That always happens. The stupidity of this regulation aside, companies always boast on their packaging with stuff they just introduced the very last moment after they were forced to.

    For example, some years ago there was this public debate that male chicks get shredded instead of raised for farming eggs. Nobody cared about that for ages, but once it was in the public it was a controversy. So at some point they disallowed that practice, for better or worse. And wouldn’t you know, right at the point where nobody was allowed to do that anymore, all the egg cartons had big labels about raising male chicks. Nobody had that label before it was mandatory.


  • Trolleybus Mechanic

    @topspin Recycling plastic simply doesn't work. What the Germans pushing their "we recycle 80% of plastic" stats are actually doing is shipping it to somewhere else (used to be China, now some shitholes in Oceania apparently) so that they can check the box that it's been recycled, at least until it shows back on the beach in Hamburg, cause the Chinaman ditched it into the river.
    If you want actually reusable bottles, you need to use glass like in the old days. But glass is heavy, fragile, needs a lot of energy to produce, and you need to transport the bottles back (which every shopkeeper avoids like the plague). I think only the Czechs sell beer in visibly used up bottles, everywhere else even glass bottles don't get reused much.
    Meanwhile you could just bury the PET bottles in the landfill - there's more than enough space and they're completely inert. Or use aluminum cans - they recycle themselves, you just leave them outside and every night some bum takes them to the scrapyard.



  • @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    if that’s more of a US thing being too incompetent

    What I've heard is because there's no real market for the dark plastic, so it's just not worth anything. And most cities aren't willing to lose money.



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