In other news today...
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@Gern_Blaanston said in In other news today...:
What's the worst thing you can do to a datacenter?
Send in an audit team? Nothing a good old army of bureaucrats can derail.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in In other news today...:
What's the worst thing you can do to a datacenter?
Flood it with waste water.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
But is a unit that apparently can't regulate power and will happily short itself just because available power is more than expected.
Not the available power but the actual power. Try hooking up a lab power supply to your AirPods and cranking up the voltage until the input current doubles, and see what happens. Pro-tip: you might want to not be holding the AirPods in your hand while you're doing this.
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@Arantor said in In other news today...:
Details are still sketchy but... the game engine Unity announced a new licence change coming in for 2024: https://unity.com/pricing-updates
Basically if your game goes over a certain amount of revenue + installs, you as the developer get to start paying Unity per install.
The exact amounts/tiers depend on what Unity licence you as a developer have.
The other amazing highlights of this:
- uninstalling + reinstalling, or installing on two computers = 2 installs
- charity/bundles will apparently somehow be exempt (but no-one knows how that's going to work)
- no clarity on how licensing via, say, GamePass is going to work
- the assumption is that game demos count towards the same limit
Just think for a moment: if installing a game sends home telemetry to the engine manufacturer, what are the chances that someone is going to fuck with that, say via piracy? Or, say, automating install + boot + uninstall + repeat of a game for a developer you don't like to make them pay actual money.
Unity seems to be under the impression that this won't happen, and that they're going to put some kind of anti-fraud measures in place.
This also comes on the heels of dropping out the 'plus' plan with the effect of pushing people up onto the pro plan (= price hike of $1600 per seat per year for many users)
This even comes into effect, apparently, for games already released using Unity but counting new installs from 1st January.
I bet Unreal, Godot, GameMaker et al are loving this free promotion today.
Amazing. They are killing off everything that made Unity attractive to indie devs and small teams. So, hm, maybe time for me to start looking at the competition yes...
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@Atazhaia they’ve rowed back some of the things but dovetailed that with “we think 90% of developers won’t be impacted” which is a tacit admission of “this only punishes the successful ones, we know the rest of you losers will fail anyway” which is a convolution towards “maybe it would be better if I weren’t successful”.
If the board ousts the brainchild of this nonsense they might have a shot at eventually earning back some trust but so far, they’ve lit a match under themselves.
People are even asking “what if Unreal did this too” without realising that Unreal makes enough money for Epic by having a sane business model and Epic isn’t stupid enough to jeopardise that.
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@Mason_Wheeler said in In other news today...:
I started reading this, realized I needed coffee, grabbed coffee, read the rest of the article, then thought "I should share this with WTDWTF".
As is happens, the WTDWTF tab I had open was still showing your post, or I might have just done that.
I needed that coffee.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
Could you imagine if, say, AirPods blew up because you hooked them to a 5v 2.5A Quick Charger dongle?
I figure AirPods and Quick Chargers were very different in mid 1980s.
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@Arantor It does make things a bit more annoying because one of the strengths of Unity is the ability to work with both 2D and 3D well, while most of the competition is either made for 3D (Unreal) or 2D (GameMaker etc.) Godot, as I understand it, is not quite there yet when it comes to doing both well.
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https://gamerant.com/hollow-knight-silksong-unity-engine-controversy/
I could have sworn silk song was announced in 2018 for 2020 and even in 2021 it was slipping into vapourware status. This must be a boon for them.
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@Atazhaia Godot does 2D pretty well, and I think I’d call 3D acceptable.
Where Godot really hurts right now are in the docs (because they’re fully programmer docs, great reference on everything but fuck awful onboarding when you don’t know everything already) and in the asset store sort of world, as it doesn’t really have such a place yet. (There is an assets library but it’s not very good.)
Even Godot’s creator came out yesterday to suggest that he doesn’t want people coming to Godot yet as a “Unity replacement” because in his honest opinion it’s not quite there yet, but they’re working on it.
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@Arantor So one could say we are waiting for Godot to reach that level?
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@Atazhaia said in In other news today...:
@Arantor So one could say we are waiting for Godot to reach that level?
And now you know how the engine got its name.
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@Arantor Dear god, it's
:zwj:
, but without the !
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@Arantor said in In other news today...:
@izzion said in In other news today...:
@Arantor
I see the executives at Unity went to the same business school as he-who-killed-the-blue-birdThe Unity CEO is formerly EA CEO...
And I read the exact same CEO that wanted to charge Battlefield players $1/magazine used in game. It all makes sense now.
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@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
@DogsB said in In other news today...:
I could have
Please don't share passwords.
All my passwords are named after power rangers. That way I’ll never forget them.
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@DogsB I don't think I've ever given a password a name. ": I dub thee Sir Password!" Nah, doesn't do it for me.
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@Atazhaia said in In other news today...:
@Arantor said in In other news today...:
@izzion said in In other news today...:
@Arantor
I see the executives at Unity went to the same business school as he-who-killed-the-blue-birdThe Unity CEO is formerly EA CEO...
And I read the exact same CEO that wanted to charge Battlefield players $1/magazine used in game. It all makes sense now.
See also FIFA 09 introducing loot boxes under his watch.
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@DogsB said in In other news today...:
@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
@DogsB said in In other news today...:
I could have
Please don't share passwords.
All my passwords are named after power rangers. That way I’ll never forget them.
So, every password you use is
Kimberly
followed by some random numbers?
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@izzion said in In other news today...:
@DogsB said in In other news today...:
@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
@DogsB said in In other news today...:
I could have
Please don't share passwords.
All my passwords are named after power rangers. That way I’ll never forget them.
So, every password you use is
Kimberly
followed by some random numbers?Don’t be ridiculous. PinkPowerRanger1, PinkPowerRanger2, etc. It makes it super easy for me to guess when I forget my password.
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@DogsB said in In other news today...:
Mostly I just want to sideload retroarch in a way that isn’t a complete pain in the hole.
Maybe you should just get a
bettermore open phone
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@TimeBandit said in In other news today...:
@DogsB said in In other news today...:
Mostly I just want to sideload retroarch in a way that isn’t a complete pain in the hole.
Maybe you should just get a
bettermore open phoneGah! If I go back to android it will be a degoogled rom!
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So the Unity thing has escalated. There was supposed to be a town hall at Unity HQ today but it was cancelled after 'credible death threats' were received.
Lot of people very, very not happy about the ongoing, even with the walking-back of some but not all of the changes.
In other news, Cult of the Lamb's developers currently threatening to remove the game from all storefronts for 1/1/24 if this doesn't get resolved. Others likely to follow.
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@Arantor said in In other news today...:
There was supposed to be a town hall at Unity HQ today but it was cancelled after 'credible death threats' were received.
Death threats by who against who? Is this like an internal Unity thing, or people threatening Unity people from outside?
In other news, Cult of the Lamb's developers currently threatening to remove the game from all storefronts for 1/1/24 if this doesn't get resolved. Others likely to follow.
It'll send a message, but won't help them, I think. If you've previously bought the game on Steam, it'll stay in your account. You can still install/uninstall it. (I'm almost certain I have a few games on my Steam account that aren't sold anymore.)
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@cvi details sketchy but it appears that outside forces have made death threats against Unity board members.
As for Cult of the Lamb going, indeed that will send a message - but I believe the intent is to cut the amount Unity can possibly receive from it.
The situation is moving in terms of what Unity has walked back on already (I believe we're now at the point where only new installs count, allegedly) so I think the thinking is 'buy it now, install it now, reduced revenue for Unity'.
Other reports indicate a number of people have resigned from Unity in protest at this.
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@cvi said in In other news today...:
It'll send a message, but won't help them, I think. If you've previously bought the game on Steam, it'll stay in your account. You can still install/uninstall it. (I'm almost certain I have a few games on my Steam account that aren't sold anymore.)
The new licensing terms can't apply to copies they already sold under the old ones, that would be against general legal principles, so if they stop selling it and stop developing it, the new terms won't apply to them.
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@Bulb Unity seems to be under the impression that they can apply this change retroactively, with existing games coming under its purview from 1/1/24.
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@dkf said in In other news today...:
@DogsB I don't think I've ever given a password a name. ": I dub thee Sir Password!" Nah, doesn't do it for me.
My passwords are iteration generations after batch. I think i mentioned it before, but for example, my current password here is named "standard unsalted 2012 with excitation".
Perhaps some day I'll update it to something more recent, like "standard secure salted mercurial 2022 braised".
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@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
Someone didn't RTFA.
Actually yes I did, which lead me to write that. I guess someone did not understand TFA...?
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@ixvedeusi said in In other news today...:
@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
Someone didn't RTFA.
Actually yes I did, which lead me to write that. I guess someone did not understand TFA...?
The article said the unit was reading 2.5 amps. The adjuster assumed it was volts. So he adjusted it to the 5 "volts" it was supposed to be. The article states this is what led out the magic smoke.
Check your knowledge.
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In other news last month or last year or the year before or two decades or 500 million years ago, depending on how you count…
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@kazitor Straight up the butt!
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@Arantor said in In other news today...:
@Bulb Unity seems to be under the impression that they can apply this change retroactively, with existing games coming under its purview from 1/1/24.
Apparently the license has a consumer-style "We can update this license whenever we want without notice" clause.
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@PleegWat exactly, but how enforceable that is, is another question.
Certainly they feel they have “we can add extra charges” as within that. And apparently retroactively too.
They used to have a TOS that said if you dint like a future TOS you can keep the one you actually agreed to. Except the GitHub repo where this was stated went mysteriously AWOL juuuuuuust as the announcement landed.
Oh, and the CEO must have figured this would end poorly, he sold a bunch of shares recently and has sold quite a lot in the last few months… (since the acquisition of an Israeli tracking company, anyway)
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@Arantor Yeah, the old one said something along the lines of "If we change the terms for version 2023 you can keep using version 2022 and stay on the old terms" iirc.
I was also curious about the share sells, but that one may be harder to pin as insider trading due to it being a regular thing.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
The article said the unit was reading 2.5 amps. The adjuster assumed it was volts. So he adjusted it to the 5 "volts" it was supposed to be. The article states this is what led out the magic smoke.
Indeed. In other words, he increased voltage until 5A were flowing into the circuit.
The amount of current flowing into any circuit at a given voltage is determined by the circuit in question, not the power supply. The only thing the power supply could do is limit the current, which it does by decreasing the voltage if the current goes above the limit. So if that amperage increased from 2.5A to 5A, the adjuster necessarily increased the voltage to make this happen.
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@PleegWat said in In other news today...:
@Arantor said in In other news today...:
@Bulb Unity seems to be under the impression that they can apply this change retroactively, with existing games coming under its purview from 1/1/24.
Apparently the license has a consumer-style "We can update this license whenever we want without notice" clause.
Awesome. It’s time some companies suffer the same bullshit they pull on consumers.
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@topspin That would be indies, kickstarters, hobbyists. If anyone with a legal team is using unity, it will not be on that license.
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@PleegWat Blizzard were using Unity for a while - Hearthstone was built in it. But Blizzard have better lawyers than Unity.
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More shots fired.
Mobile game developers that use Unity have been switching their ads off - so while they don’t get paid, Unity doesn’t make as much money out of it either.
Meanwhile Unity continues to play the fiddle while Rome burns, so to say.
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@ixvedeusi said in In other news today...:
The only thing the power supply could do is limit the current, which it does by decreasing the voltage if the current goes above the limit.
Yes. That's what that setting does in every power supply I've seen.
@ixvedeusi said in In other news today...:
the adjuster necessarily increased the voltage to make this happen.
Not necessarily. But the article isn't explicit and instead implies otherwise.
But I'm tired of arguing theoretical nonsense.
The moral of the day is: pay attention to how you treat the modified glass machines, mmkay?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
The moral of the day is: pay attention to how you treat the modified glass machines, mmkay?
Eepkay the agicmay okesmay in the artsmay ocksray. OK?
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@PleegWat For a legal take:
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@dkf said in In other news today...:
@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
The moral of the day is: pay attention to how you treat the modified glass machines, mmkay?
Eepkay the agicmay okesmay in the artsmay ocksray. OK?
I couldn't parse it, and chatgpt understood it in my first try
It appears that the text you provided has been transformed into Pig Latin. To undo it, the original text would be:
"@dkf said in In other news today...:
@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
The moral of the day is: pay attention to how you treat the modified glass machines, mmkay?
Speak the magic words in the art of rocks. OK?"
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@sockpuppet7 said in In other news today...:
the art of rocks.
I will now call computing devices this.
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@sockpuppet7 So close, yet so far.
"Eepkay the agicmay okesmay in the artsmay ocksray. OK?"
I did wonder how to encode the small words, so didn't bother.
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@dkf i award you three out of seven for that fine display of Pig Latin.