What's an image file?
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@topspin and possibly short-sightedness from that illustration.
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@topspin said in What's an image file?:
@HardwareGeek Your cacodemon has autism.
- That's a beholder
- They all do
- I think you mean trisomy
- I'm not the one on trial here
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@Arantor said in What's an image file?:
@HardwareGeek the only true one, of course
Ah, this one, then:
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And another photo of a camera on a wooden table:
The concept of a file is ... really complicated!
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@BernieTheBernie Actually there is a value-adding step involved: they zoomed in on the subject of the observation on the photo camera's display before they took a photo of that on their smartphone... (see the little
2x
on the lower left)
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@BernieTheBernie Even more added value is that they used this feature to crop a photograph in portrait format to landscape (see the little rectangles on the lower right) and then used the phone to turn it back to portrait!
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@Gurth That's just magic!
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This thread has made me think of this show. Seemingly any time cops in that have CCTV footage to be looked at, somebody uses a phone to take a picture of something of interest in that. This can be excused in that it makes it quicker to share the thing, of course.
But it seems to be that whenever they look up a suspect in the police database and need a hardcopy mugshot, they send a screenshot to the printer — including the Windows 95-style, grey window background, buttons near the photo, etc. Does this police software not have an option to print out photos? Or to save the mugshot to a file so only that can be printed? (Or I guess that’s too much of a hassle to do?)
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@Gurth said in What's an image file?:
Does this police software not have an option to print out photos?
Quite possibly not, due either to regulatory or technical limitations - police buy the dumbest shit imaginable just for starters, then even dumber shit.
Or to save the mugshot to a file so only that can be printed?
For me, at least, no, since an attempted mugshot will always turn out as a headshot.
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@Gribnit said in What's an image file?:
@Gurth said in What's an image file?:
Does this police software not have an option to print out photos?
Quite possibly not, due either to regulatory or technical limitations - police buy the dumbest shit imaginable just for starters, then even dumber shit.
Also, police are legendary for being computer illiterates, so it could just be that's the only way they know because someone with slightly more computer sense showed them how to do it that way at some point.
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Instead of uploading the image from your computer, you can also install an app on your phone and photograph you computer:
Though I'd suggest to upgrade the table: it is not so wooden.
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That's a very small starfish.
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Your mom, is an image file.
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@Zerosquare said in What's an image file?:
That's a very small starfish.
Wdym it's about the size of the screen.
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Here comes the next challenge: please do not move the photo camera while some one takes a photo with his phone:
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@BernieTheBernie Is that the new Space Invaders game?
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@BernieTheBernie If you only knew how many person hours have gone into creating motion blur filters in games to recreate this very effect.
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@BernieTheBernie
E_NO_WOODEN_TABLE
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@Atazhaia You found the source of the issue: if the camera was placed on a wooden table, that effect would (likely) not have happened (uhm earth quake, drunken people near the table, wood chucks churning away the table's feet, ...).
Congratulations!
Please tell the author of the photo.
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Meanwhile I see a real advantage in taking a photo of the photo camera's screen with your mobile over the real thing:
a snake won't bite you (and this is a reallypoisonousvenomous snake).
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@cvi said in What's an image file?:
@BernieTheBernie If you only knew how many person hours have gone into creating motion blur filters in games to recreate this very effect.
... and subsequently how many Parody-seconds spent turning them off.
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@BernieTheBernie Strictly speaking, it's a photograph of screen that's displaying a photograph of a venomous snake.
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This one mis-lead me: I thought of the camera on a wooden table. But it isn't.
A cute mouse anyway. But the cute things thread is ,
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@cvi said in What's an image file?:
@BernieTheBernie If you only knew how many person hours have gone into creating motion blur filters in games to recreate this very effect.
Fuck motion blur with a Pike soaked in Muriatic acid!
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@BernieTheBernie said in What's an image file?:
But it isn't.
I identified crotch shot. Do I get cake?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in What's an image file?:
Fuck motion blur with a Pike soaked in Muriatic acid!
Eh, it depends. Mostly yes, sometimes it's alright (to give a sense of speed).
Also, : Muriatic acid of sufficient concentration will dissolve metal and most likely any other material(s) that could be used to construct the pike.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in What's an image file?:
Muriatic acid of sufficient concentration will dissolve metal and most likely any other material(s) that could be used to construct the pike.
That depends very much on the metal. Precious metals like silver, gold and platinum are non-reactive with hydrochloric acid at any concentration. Copper is non-reactive with dilute hydrochloric acid, but I couldn't find any definitive information on reactivity with concentrated HCl. Glass, ceramics, and many plastics are also non-reactive. Even a fairly reactive metal like steel would become quite resistant if coated with, say, polytetraflouroethylene or even ordinary polyethylene, as long as you don't scratch through the coating.
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Uhm what's that? You take your phone to take a photo from another phone's screen? Weirdness increases.
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@BernieTheBernie said in What's an image file?:
Uhm what's that? You take your phone to take a photo from another phone's screen? Weirdness increases.
I would accept it, but alas, no wooden table.
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While previous cases were nature related, let us move into the piano business. Actually, not a photo taken with the smart phone showing the back of a photo camera, but a screen shot of the smart phone showing a photo in the smart phone's gallery:
And yes, that piano is currently for sale - with that 6 years old photo.
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@BernieTheBernie said in What's an image file?:
a screen shot of the smart phone showing a photo
I see that more often than I would like. Not a great deal, but stuff like people posting a screenshot of a web site that has the photo they want to include in a forum post … Learn to use your tools, maybe? Usually it seems to be from a phone or tablet, because I guess they know how to take screenshots with that but not how to save photos from a site if they can’t right-click?
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@Gurth said in What's an image file?:
I guess they know how to take screenshots with that but not how to save photos from a site if they can’t right-click?
They know how to take screenshots but not how to crop them.
Or most likely they just don't care.
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@loopback0 this. Screenshot is usually easier than save image, especially as some websites do things to make this annoying because they forget that screenshots exist, but cropping is significantly more effort that is perceived as unnecessary.
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@loopback0 said in What's an image file?:
They know how to take screenshots but not how to crop them.
Or most likely they just don't care.On the kinds of forums I tend to read, more likely the former, I think. But at the same time, there are too many people around who actively resist if you try to teach them how to use what they have more effectively …
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@Gurth said in What's an image file?:
there are too many people around who actively resist if you try to teach them how to use what they have more effectively
The Kevins of the Internetz.
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Speaking of screenshots, TODIL that some applications can prevent screenshots. Like, my banking application.
Which is... I wouldn't say a "great" idea but I can imagine how it came to be and let's call it a "not totally retarded idea" (should be a low bar to clear but, well, look at which site we're on).
But then I actually needed to screenshot something from my bank (to give the full transaction details to someone without manually copying all those digits that don't make any sense).
I then spent an inordinate amount of time trying to take a picture of the screen with the only other camera I had on hand, i.e. the webcam on my laptop.
And I ended up logging in to my bank on my laptop to get the information! At least here I could snapshot all I want (I guess they didn't find a way to prevent that!). But I needed to get the picture on my phone because I was chatting with the other person. So I finally ended up taking a picture of my screen (wooden table was not included, but moire effects were).
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@remi said in What's an image file?:
At least here I could snapshot all I want
But you forgot that you actually were able to select text on the web page?
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@BernieTheBernie probably, but that would still not have given me an easy way to send that to the other person since it'd still have been on my laptop, not my phone.
You can't defeat the wooden table.
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@remi ? Can't you copy that text into a text file, transfer it to the memory card of the phone, open that file, and then copy the fuck into that other app?
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@BernieTheBernie The thing is that thats more work and there is a in the way. That's why most people do these things!
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@BernieTheBernie I don't know, your approach seems too simple. I think this is missing an unreliable wireless protocol and/or something that requires an internet connection. And logging into at least one remote service, of course.
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@BernieTheBernie said in What's an image file?:
@remi ? Can't you copy that text
into a text file, transfer it to the memory card of the phone, open that file, and then copyto the clipboard on the laptop and then paste the fuck into thatotherphone app?Universal clipboard FTW.
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@remi said in What's an image file?:
@BernieTheBernie probably, but that would still not have given me an easy way to send that to the other person since it'd still have been on my laptop, not my phone.
You can't defeat the wooden table.
As much as MS shoves some apps down your throat, I do like the app that can connect my phone to the desktop. Then copy/paste "just works".
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@remi said in What's an image file?:
@BernieTheBernie probably, but that would still not have given me an easy way to send that to the other person since it'd still have been on my laptop, not my phone.
You can't defeat the wooden table.
You don't have
faxemail on the phone? Also, I can open my text app on my computer and send stuff that way.
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@boomzilla said in What's an image file?:
You can't defeat the wooden table.
You don't have
faxemail on the phone?I do, but I still fail to see in which world that would have been easier.
I could have taken a snapshot on my laptop, saved it, opened my mailer, typed an email, attached the picture, send, wait to receive on the phone, open the email, save the picture, and finally attach the picture in whatever communication medium I was ultimately using on my phone.
I'm also left with an email I don't really want to keep, and possibly one or two copies of the image as files that I also don't particularly want to keep. Not major issues, but still (small) negatives.
(ETA: this also relies on a network communication -- which of course ultimately is the case to send the picture to someone else, but email is a different provider so more opportunities for problems and delays to happen, and if the "final" send is delayed for a few minutes because of a network issue, it's far less annoying than if the email I'm waiting for to continue this process is delayed!)
Or, I could open the communication medium in question on my phone, tap the "take a picture" button, take the picture. Done.
Also, I can open my text app on my computer and send stuff that way.
I could also have done that, because the "communication medium" in question was WhatsApp, which has a web version. But since I don't have it usually opened on my laptop, it would have meant specifically going to log in there (which involves some dance with the phone IIRC and... taking a picture with the phone of a QR code displayed on the laptop!). So still way more work than taking the picture directly with my phone.
(also, I think that since some time (firewall or browser "upgrade" I guess??), WhatsApp web doesn't work anymore, so actually trying that approach would only have cost me more time)
I'm astonished that so many people here, of all places, can't appreciate a simple solution that Just Works and keep trying to imagine even more complex ways.
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@remi said in What's an image file?:
I'm astonished that so many people here, of all places, can't appreciate a simple solution that Just Works and keep trying to imagine even more complex ways.
What's the fun of that?
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@loopback0 said in What's an image file?:
@Gurth said in What's an image file?:
I guess they know how to take screenshots with that but not how to save photos from a site if they can’t right-click?
They know how to take screenshots but not how to crop them.
Or most likely they just don't care.Cropping a picture requires the use of some sort of image editing program. And that opens up an entire area that is completely foreign to many people.
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@remi said in What's an image file?:
I could have taken a snapshot on my laptop, saved it, opened my mailer, typed an email, attached the picture, send, wait to receive on the phone, open the email, save the picture, and finally attach the picture in whatever communication medium I was ultimately using on my phone.
What the hell? No! In order:
Plug phone into computer. Possibly allow media access if your phone is appropriately paranoid. Take Screenshot with favored program. Use said program to save it to the phone in a discoverable location. Use phone App to load that Screenshot. Optionally delete image from phone. Done.
What is wrong with people?!