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Vault_Dweller

I personally don't believe it astrology. But that's just because I'm a Leo, and we're known to be skeptics.

Zecc

@dcon said in Error'd Bites:

I wrote mine my hand. On a keyboard.

Did you proofread afterwards to make sure you did not occasionally type the wrong letter, my any chance?

Zecc

@Tsaukpaetra said in Error'd Bites:

Dafuq is that? Trying to see if you're a psychopath by how unsteady your hands are?

Also, yes.

remi

@Zerosquare said in Error'd Bites:

@HardwareGeek said in Error'd Bites:

Yeah, France!

It is a complete , indeed. And as @remi hinted, some companies (including large ones) also rely on astrology for recruitment, and don't even try to hide it. Maybe they no longer do, but it still existed 10 years ago.

I think they still do exist. Though it's almost impossible to know since they don't claim it publicly (besides, apart from a handful of very large groups, who is going to check the literal millions of HR people to see what they do?). It is also impossible to know how common the practice really is. Common-enough that cases exist and various texts and pages mention it (and e.g. a search for "graphologie" returns many "professional" results), but OTOH a random occurrence of something outrageous-enough can be repeated again and again as if it's commonplace. So really, who ?

I'd like to see what would happen if a candidate sued them for discrimination.

You made me check ( ), an official government website says (my translation) that "[t]he use of, in particular, astrology, graphology or numerology is prohibited, except when justified reasons exist" which... doesn't really say much! "Prohibited except when not," wow, such accuracy...

A bit more search leads to the relevant article of law (a bit more context with the 2-3 articles around it is also interesting), which states (again, my translation):

"The candidate to a job is explicitly informed, before their use, of any method and technique used to help the recruiting process.
Results are confidential.
Methods and techniques used to help the recruiting process or to evaluate candidates must be relevant with regard to the targeted objective."

(another article a bit above states that "all information requested from the candidate must have a direct and mandatory link to the job on offer or the evaluation of the professional qualifications)

My interpretation is therefore that a company that uses e.g. astrology without telling you is squarely doing something illegal. If they do tell you however... I think it's much more of a grey area, because while astrology (or graphology) doesn't have any official state recognition (and for good reason since it's just bullshit), it's not illegal either and if people are allowed to get astrological "advice" why would they be prohibited from using that "advice?"

I would assume, but it's purely a guess, that if you were informed of astrology being used (again, if not informed it's straight up illegal), then were rejected with a letter saying "we don't hire sagittarius, HTH, HAND, get lost" then you could probably fairly easily win (unless the job is for being an astrologer, or some other adjacent profession where it would be expected from you to believe (or at least act as if you believe) in such stuff). If, OTOH, the rejection just says something like "your psychological profile as revealed by tests (including astrology) isn't a good fit yadda yadda..." (or the rejection doesn't say anything!)... well, good luck proving that astrology was really a significant factor in the rejection.

At that point, excepted for the most egregious cases, it's likely harder to prove than some form of discrimination (race, gender...), which is already illegal but in practice somewhat widespread.

But "yeah France" indeed.

remi

Also, France is almost the only place in the world where homeopathy is used a lot, and was until very recently covered by public health care, and where stopping it being covered actually was a contentious topic.

And then we say that France is a rational country.

Tsaukpaetra

@remi said in Error'd Bites:

And then we say that France is a rational country.

Wheee!

Zerosquare

@remi said in Error'd Bites:

And then we say that France is a rational country.

We do? That's news to me. Anybody claiming that obviously never spent 5 minutes dealing with the French administration.

LaoC

@dkf said in Error'd Bites:

@remi said in Error'd Bites:

A quick search yields some recent results, so apparently it's still a thing, though apparently as well, if a company uses it, they must warn you (and get your approval, I think? though of course they're probably allowed to reject your application if you refuse so you have little say in the matter...) and show you the results of the "analysis." No idea if they do.

I believe it is important in a few roles. For example, if you have neat handwriting then you're excluded from being a medical doctor.

doctors'-strike.jpg

remi

@Zerosquare said in Error'd Bites:

@remi said in Error'd Bites:

And then we say that France is a rational country.

We do? That's news to me.

"The country of Descartes" and this sort of things. I've heard it said.

Anybody claiming that obviously never spent 5 minutes dealing with the French administration.

Coincidentally and because it's the hot-topic of the moment, I just spent a bit of time looking up how pensions are computed and how that might apply to myself.

Let's just say that even a numerically fluent person used to deal with the weird logic of complicated programs has trouble following everything, even when none of the "special regimes" are involved.

Though arguably that's still all "rational," if complicated and weird.

dcon

@Zecc said in Error'd Bites:

@dcon said in Error'd Bites:

I wrote mine mby hand. On a keyboard.

Did you proofread afterwards to make sure you did not occasionally type the wrong letter, my any chance?

<Looks at my post> Looks good to me!

BernieTheBernie

Dear foreca.de weather service, why do you show me country names in such a foreign language? Bulgarian or something like that?

HardwareGeek

@BernieTheBernie Given the range of temperatures, I don't think I want to be in either Uruguay or Russia, at least not Verkhoyansk. Even Canada is positively balmy in comparison.

Gribnit

@Vault_Dweller

begins to speak, but is unexpectedly shot with an arrow

Zecc

@Gribnit said in Error'd Bites:

@Vault_Dweller

begins to speak, but is unexpectedly shot with an arrow

Is that what it takes? takes notes

dkf

Nice one, Eclipse!

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Zerosquare

The Nope, you eat that thread is

Gearhead

LOL. It's just a data entry fail but c'mon man.

jinpa

@Gearhead They were referring to typical actual full-time government employee working hours rather than timesheet time, depending on their shift.

Tsaukpaetra

Status: Really, Chrome? You can't possibly have any other idea of what this word might be misspelled of? No idea at all? None?

dkf

@Tsaukpaetra You could try searching Google for it.

BernieTheBernie

@dkf That's the reason chrome is showing that.

LaoC

HardwareGeek

I'm not sure when these will arrive — maybe even before they're shipped; you can never be sure with NaNs.

Applied Mediocrity

@HardwareGeek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fa4BfPQiKs

LaoC

Even if it had been able to dial a connection, I wouldn't have stuck my card in there after seeing that tray.

Watson

@LaoC said in Error'd Bites:

Even if it had been able to dial a connection, I wouldn't have stuck my card in there after seeing that tray.

What Mickey Mouse outfit is that?

LaoC

@Watson said in Error'd Bites:

@LaoC said in Error'd Bites:

Even if it had been able to dial a connection, I wouldn't have stuck my card in there after seeing that tray.

What Mickey Mouse outfit is that?

Sberbank of Russia, one of their biggest banks. TBF the pic is about 15 years old and from I-forget-where out in Siberia.

Zecc

This reminds me somehow of the following: the two times I've tried the new self-checkout boxes in one supermarket I go to there was a pop-op dialog saying my debit card was refused, immediately after I picked that as a payment option.

Fortunately, the pop-up did not reappear after I actually inserted the card in the reader, so perchance they meant "please insert your card"? The previous checkout boxes were smarter at this.

Applied Mediocrity

@Zecc Perhaps it was because you put a horse's head on the scales?

BernieTheBernie

Today I tried to order tea from Gschwendner. Opened their web page, went to the shop, added several teas to the shopping basket, and then went to checkout. Filled in contact data, and voilà, it did not accept my address.
?
It complained that it could not find Berniestraße 42 in 12345 Berniedorf. I looked at it again, and there was no typo. The help field told me that I might be able to "verify" it by clicking into the field. So I did. Repeatedly. And then, a small pop-up appeared, showing Berniestraße 42, 12345 Berniedorf, and I selected that.
Still, the "Submit" button was disabled. ?
Ah, look, they did not accept my state (again : though Germany has several states, we do not mention them on the shipping/billing address: it is nationwide unique anyway). I remembered that in some weather apps, my place was assumed to be in Rheinland-Pfalz instead of Hessen: Changed that, and my state was now marked with a green checkmark instead of a red cross x.
Still, the road was not accepted.
Went back to the main shopping page, tried the checkout again, this time selecting Rheinland-Pfalz from the beginning, but the "Submit" button stayed disabled.
Well, , you just finally lost a customer. 2 years ago, the system still worked, but they sent me an email resembling a fishing mail, requiring me to pay to their bank account before they would ship (I could at least verify it was really their bank account where the money was to be sent). And now, they won't even let me order.

PleegWat

@BernieTheBernie Did you try Berniestrasse 42?

BernieTheBernie

@PleegWat Yes, I did. Still unknown.

LaoC

@BernieTheBernie said in Error'd Bites:

@PleegWat Yes, I did. Still unknown.

Must be 𝕭𝖊𝖗𝖓𝖎𝖊𝖘𝖙𝖗𝖆ß𝖊!

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Tsaukpaetra

@LaoC said in Error'd Bites:

The site feels about as fast as the one that someone used to run on ConTiki for the C64

My OP gaming rig handled it fine.

Made this garbage.

jinpa

@BernieTheBernie I am continually amazed at how many sites dissuade (or, as in your case, outright prevent) customers who had already decided to make a purchase from making a purchase.

BernieTheBernie

@jinpa See the quote on "abandoned shopping carts" in a different thread (with totally different context, of course)...

Gurth

@Tsaukpaetra said in Error'd Bites:

@LaoC said in Error'd Bites:

The site feels about as fast as the one that someone used to run on ConTiki for the C64

My OP gaming rig handled it fine.

So does my iMac from 2019. But why use that site if you could just go to here and type your own sample text to take a screenshot of?

WTF Suetterlin.png

Applied Mediocrity

@Gurth said in Error'd Bites:

But why use that site if you could just go to here and type your own sample text to take a screenshot of?

And miss out on the opportunity to flex your nerd muscle?

BernieTheBernie

How to sort a list of countries?
What about this:

Likely sorted in English, and afterwards localized...
Yes, always do the secnod step before you do the frist step.

BernieTheBernie

There is an odd tweak in a pdf of an article published in the Science journal:

jinpa

@BernieTheBernie Apart from the cryptic nature of the comment (which is probably only cryptic because we can't see what it was before the change), can you normally see comments in the pdf's they publish?

So probably either a late comment, or the person who was supposed to remove all of the comments forgot to. Or a combination of both. Unless there's a lot of comments in the article, it probably wasn't that they forgot to remove all comments.

BernieTheBernie

Now it happened the frist time that I found a company where my salary expectations won't blow their data model:

Though, honestly, I do not understand why anyone would also work for a negative salary.
And yes, I assumed it's Euro since the position to be filled is in Germany. But... what if it is Zimbabwean Dollars?