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@boomzilla vorpal can only be applied to slashing weapons.
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My son managed to get his character killed in session one of his game tonight. His character was very drunk. He saw a green dragon polymorph into an old man. He followed the man/dragon into a flower shop. The man/dragon offered him some tea to help sober up. Level 3 character with 21 HP took 81 points of poison damage. Bye, bye character.
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@HardwareGeek said in D&D thread:
My son managed to get his character killed in session one of his game tonight. His character was very drunk. I saw a green dragon polymorph into an old man. He followed the man/dragon into a flower shop. The man/dragon offered him some tea to help sober up. Level 3 character with 21 HP took 81 points of poison damage. Bye, bye character.
Maybe the Mormons have a point about booze
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@izzion said in D&D thread:
Maybe the Mormons have a point about booze
Unless it's "refuse any offers of 'help you sober up'" - prolly not.
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@HardwareGeek said in D&D thread:
My son managed to get his character killed in session one of his game tonight. His character was very drunk. He saw a green dragon polymorph into an old man. He followed the man/dragon into a flower shop. The man/dragon offered him some tea to help sober up. Level 3 character with 21 HP took 81 points of poison damage. Bye, bye character.
Seems harsh. Did the DM not like his character setup?
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@PleegWat IIRC from my son's telling of the tale, the DM gave him some hints that accepting a drink from a green dragon would be a Bad Idea™, and my son's character was aware that most of the flowers in the flower shop were poisonous, but he said, "My character is very drunk, and it's what he'd do."
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@HardwareGeek
What is it with power tripping DMs that make low level characters encounter dragons anyway?
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@izzion Folks playing Florida Man while clearly being too low level
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@izzion The DM didn't make my son's character encounter the dragon. My son's character saw the dragon polymorph into the old man, and my son decided his character should go chat up the dragon. I think my son could have decided to have his character just go back into the pub and drink some more, and there would have been no encounter. I suspect that knowing the old man was really a dragon would have been important later, but there wouldn't have been an encounter now if my son hadn't initiated it.
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@HardwareGeek said in D&D thread:
character was aware that most of the flowers in the flower shop were poisonous, but he said, "My character is very drunk, and it's what he'd do."
Well, hopefully he got roleplaying XP for that.
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@izzion said in D&D thread:
@HardwareGeek
What is it with power tripping DMs that make low level characters encounter dragons anyway?Dungeons can't move fast enough.
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@Mason_Wheeler I really should read the original frankenstein story at some point.
So many classics, so little time...
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@PleegWat said in D&D thread:
I really should read the original frankenstein story at some point.
Ehhh...
It is undoubtedly a classic. It's also... not terribly good.
The thing to remember is that Shelley came up with the original concept whilst hanging out with Byron and her husband-to-be, telling each other ghost stories. The idea - as, unfortunately, presented in the book - was fine for impressionistic short-form, but not nearly enough to hang a novel on, and Shelley really didn't have the creative chops to fill in the blanks.
I got my copy as part of a "classic horror" set from Penguin, that also included Dracula, Dr Jekyll, and the Phantom of the Opera. I found Frankenstein easily the weakest of the four, especially since the only one it could possibly beat - Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde - is a lot shorter.
If you haven't read Dracula or the Phantom, and have only so much reading time, I strongly recommend you go for one of those, before reaching for Frankenstein.
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@GOG said in D&D thread:
@PleegWat said in D&D thread:
I really should read the original frankenstein story at some point.
Ehhh...
It is undoubtedly a classic. It's also... not terribly good.
The thing to remember is that Shelley came up with the original concept whilst hanging out with Byron and her husband-to-be, telling each other ghost stories. The idea - as, unfortunately, presented in the book - was fine for impressionistic short-form, but not nearly enough to hang a novel on, and Shelley really didn't have the creative chops to fill in the blanks.
I read that book as part of my college class on Science Fiction. It was an awesome class, and we read Frankenstein as a "the mother of science fiction" kind of thing.
Mary Shelley needed a thesaurus. She conjugated "wretch" far too many times. Wretched, wretchful, wretch...
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@PotatoEngineer said in D&D thread:
She conjugated "wretch" far too many times. Wretched, wretchful, wretch...
The wretchugations wretcherate most wretcherously.
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@Gribnit said in D&D thread:
@PotatoEngineer said in D&D thread:
She conjugated "wretch" far too many times. Wretched, wretchful, wretch...
The wretchugations wretcherate most wretcherously.
A most wretchacious state of affairs.
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@GOG said in D&D thread:
If you haven't read Dracula or the Phantom, and have only so much reading time, I strongly recommend you go for one of those, before reaching for Frankenstein.
On a semi-related note, if you're pressed for referentially tangled metaliterature time, skip J.D. Salinger and go for Thomas Pynchon.
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@Mason_Wheeler Yes and no. The Rule of Fun takes precedence, of course. But I think they should have come clean after the first session.
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At the game store I used to frequent 15+ years ago, one of the regulars showed up with a loaded D6 at one point. He didn’t even really try to use it because it was pretty obviously not a regular die: most of the time when it was rolled, it clearly flopped over to show the 6 when it had almost lost momentum.
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@Gurth said in D&D thread:
At the game store I used to frequent 15+ years ago, one of the regulars showed up with a loaded D6 at one point. He didn’t even really try to use it because it was pretty obviously not a regular die: most of the time when it was rolled, it clearly flopped over to show the 6 when it had almost lost momentum.
I have a couple of those. I used to have three, because they were sold as a set of "character rollers." They were blatantly, obviously loaded, and yet it still rolled a non-6 from time to time.
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@Mason_Wheeler said in D&D thread:
That's a great story, but if he was at my table, I'd never play with him again, and if I were DM, I'd either boot him from the table or have someone else roll his dice for the rest of the campaign.
I'm all for light shenanigans, but it's not the character who chose to roll those dice.
(That said: I've played with a cheating player before, and we all just quietly didn't bring attention to how she was playing. She was The Girlfriend, and she clearly had at least some mental issues, and nobody wanted to open that particular box and also piss off one of the other players (the boyfriend). She also didn't go over the top with it; she mostly cheated to avoid getting her character harmed. She clearly hated the idea of taking damage at all. So what I'm saying is... I'm a hypocrite? Or that, in most cases, friendship trumps table-shenanigans?)
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@PotatoEngineer said in D&D thread:
They were blatantly, obviously loaded, and yet it still rolled a non-6 from time to time.
Come to think of it, I have a bunch of obviously, blatantly loaded D6s that come up as a lot of things other than 6 all the time, including nothing at all unless you roll the bloody things on a billiards table …
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@Gurth said in D&D thread:
@PotatoEngineer said in D&D thread:
They were blatantly, obviously loaded, and yet it still rolled a non-6 from time to time.
Come to think of it, I have a bunch of obviously, blatantly loaded D6s that come up as a lot of things other than 6 all the time, including nothing at all unless you roll the bloody things on a billiards table …
I have one of those. I have played with a girl who hated it. She just didn't like the concept of spherical dice.
I may have trolled her with them a time or two.
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@PotatoEngineer I think I’ve got six, in three colours … I bought three myself when I came across them, just for novelty’s sake, and got a couple more from somewhere/-one, but I don’t remember why, when or who. In any case I have enough to play most RPGs with other than things like Shadowrun or Champions.
But I don’t blame her for disliking them. Like I said, they’re totally impractical things unless you can roll them on a perfectly level surface and even then, you often find yourself wondering which number is actually closest to the top. (Yes, I have rolled them on a billiards table, when a local game convention was held at a pool hall. Only place they ever really worked.)
TBF, D12s and D30s are almost as bad, they just keep rolling (more than D20s, in my experience) but at least they come to a stop showing one number at the top. I never did buy one of those golfball D100s, though I imagine they have both these problems in one die.
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@Gurth said in D&D thread:
TBF, D12s and D30s are almost as bad, they just keep rolling (more than D20s, in my experience) but at least they come to a stop showing one number at the top. I never did buy one of those golfball D100s, though I imagine they have both these problems in one die.
My brother had a D100. It rolled so far that he ended up opening it up to replace the plastic beads inside with lead fishing weights. (D100s can come apart.) He used a few too many weights, so the ball just kinda stopped immediately when you rolled it.
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@PotatoEngineer said in D&D thread:
@Gurth said in D&D thread:
TBF, D12s and D30s are almost as bad, they just keep rolling (more than D20s, in my experience) but at least they come to a stop showing one number at the top. I never did buy one of those golfball D100s, though I imagine they have both these problems in one die.
My brother had a D100. It rolled so far that he ended up opening it up to replace the plastic beads inside with lead fishing weights. (D100s can come apart.) He used a few too many weights, so the ball just kinda stopped immediately when you rolled it.
Try oobleck next, then, or some other non-Newtonian fluid.
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D&D & Twitter status: I've had a twitter account for a decade or so (used it to demonstrate twitter embedding in a web design high school class). I'd never posted until today. My first pair of posts were to say "Hey WotC, if you push those new license terms as leaked, I'm out. Not acceptable."
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@Benjamin-Hall Should've tagged #Elon. While he still has some gold left
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@Mason_Wheeler And here I only read the public FAQ, not the contract itself.
Mind you, I find it pretty depressing that "wait until the hubbub dies down" is a strategy that works most of the time.
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I've gotten a bit behind on Critical Role, trying to catch up now. I'm watching Campaign 3, episode 36, where the team makes a visit to Whitestone and ends up meeting several members of Vox Machina, played as NPCs by Matt. With Pike, Matt does a dead-on impression of Ashley's trademark "okay, okay, okay, okay, okay," verbal tic, and the reactions from the cast (especially Ashley's!) are absolutely priceless!
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@Mason_Wheeler said in D&D thread:
"okay, okay, okay, okay, okay,"
To gain solace from the cheese, the exercitant must name the cheese. O Queso, o Queso, reach forth to them with thy melty glob!
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Aaaand WotC backed down. Looks like they realized just how badly they miss-stepped. Possibly. Or, at least, they'll defer these shenanigans until after they've had more chances to build up to it.
Personally, I plan on not playing 5E if I can get away with it. My main regret is that there are fewer published adventures in other systems. (Though I suppose Pathfinder has plenty.) But I'll still play 5E if that's the only option, I'll just campaign for a different system where possible.
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@Mason_Wheeler A piñata with zing!
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@boomzilla If your D&D group has a lot of Mireille Mathieu fans, that would count as a lot higher Charisma than a mere 9.
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@Gurth said in D&D thread:
@boomzilla If your D&D group has a lot of Mireille Mathieu fans, that would count as a lot higher Charisma than a mere 9.
However, this would require more than exist.
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@Zerosquare If it's any comfort to you, she wasn't known to this American.
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@Zerosquare said in D&D thread:
@Gurth said in D&D thread:
Mireille Mathieu
...I had no idea she was known outside of France.
I’m old enough to remember her being at the tail end of her popularity in the Netherlands. Not that she was ever a superstar here, but most people would have recognised her name at least into the 90s, I would think.
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@Gurth said in D&D thread:
@boomzilla If your D&D group has a lot of Mireille Mathieu fans, that would count as a lot higher Charisma than a mere 9.
I expect it's like that old rule that dwarves didn't take the Cha penalty when dealing with other dwarves.
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@GOG said in D&D thread:
@Gurth said in D&D thread:
@boomzilla If your D&D group has a lot of Mireille Mathieu fans, that would count as a lot higher Charisma than a mere 9.
I expect it's like that old rule that dwarves didn't take the Cha penalty when dealing with other dwarves.
That's not a rule. They are all taking the same penalty, so you can ignore it.
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Meanwhile, I wonder from where this whole thing where charisma (and similar) == looks/attractiveness comes from. It feels like a very dumb interpretation of what charisma should be. Charisma should be the ability to influence others based off well-chosen words and mannerisms, not because of "hurr durr elf women be hot".
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@Atazhaia Good looking people do have it easier getting others to do their bidding. Having looks only wouldn't make for a very high stat value. And it wouldn't always work. I suppose that's a side effect of simplifying things like that down to some numbers on a character sheet.
Elf women be hot? Phe! Knife-eared bug-eyed ultra-anorexic strumpets, the lot of them