WTF Bites



  • @LaoC said in WTF Bites:

    I starts docker-compose. Which, when you start it directly, just returns when the entrypoint is broken in the way it was. So I'm sure it was systemd this time. Setting Restart=no "fixed" it in that it didn't loop any more, then I had to fix the container's config of course.

    … and I guess it does not return a non-zero status because Go programmers are above petty things like following conventions for reporting failures. Or something like that.


  • Banned

    @LaoC said in WTF Bites:

    @Gustav said in WTF Bites:

    @Arantor oh, right, audiophiles. A few orders of magnitude worse than gamers, both in spending habits and in gullibility and overall stupidity. At least gamer toys work as advertised.

    Most audiophile's rigs do sound a tad better than your usual Logitech or JBL speakers.

    Most gaming keyboards sound better than mainstream ones too.

    And then, there's gAmInG r00TeRz with "Triple-level Game Acceleration"

    If it was still 2001 that would be actually believable. Nowadays... it probably does something, but with immeasurably small or outright negative effects. Compare to CD shaver, which literally does nothing whatsoever - and cost more than that router! (Adjusted for inflation.)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-QxLAxwxkM

    10 Gbit (yeah right)

    Total across all devices. It does up to 4.8Gbit each for 5G and 6G, and 2Gbit for 2.4G. At least it's theoretically possible in a spherical laboratory. Audiophile equipment often claims physically impossible feats.

    Ethernets are only 2.5Gbit though. Total ripoff.

    and totally not overpriced at $549.99

    How many audiophile speakers (not audiophile-quality, specifically products for audiophiles - keep it apples-to-apples) can you buy for $549.99?

    I'm not saying it's not dumb. I'm saying it's very far from the dumbest thing you could be spending money on. Even in gamer circles. Do you know how much some people spend on Genshin Impact skins?



  • @Gustav said in WTF Bites:

    scammers pretending to be their own grandchildren

    ... who in turn spend that money for the stupid shit.


  • Banned

    @BernieTheBernie exactly! It wouldn't be so bad if they gave it to SMART scammers!

    I just remembered my past neighbor who got herself roped into $2000 installment plan for a set of bedclothes. She didn't even like them!



  • @Gustav said in WTF Bites:

    Do you know how much some people spend on Genshin Impact skins?

    How many meters of "special" audiophile-grade "directional" ethernet cable do you get for one Genshin Impact skin?


  • ♿ (Parody)

    @MrL said in WTF Bites:

    @Carnage said in WTF Bites:

    @MrL said in WTF Bites:

    @Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF Bites:

    Get ready for innovation 😕

    it has an internally-built GPU and CPU

    ITS A BLOODY KEYBAORD GODDAMMIT!!1 😠

    Don't worry, gamers will slurp it up.

    We should start making a distinction between gamers and gamerphiles.

    Same picture. Gamers are the most gullible, stupid and dare I say retarded consumer group in existence. That includes dumb housewives and preschool kids.

    Starbucks is, like, a billion dollar company, or something.


  • Banned

    @cvi said in WTF Bites:

    @Gustav said in WTF Bites:

    Do you know how much some people spend on Genshin Impact skins?

    How many meters of "special" audiophile-grade "directional" ethernet cable do you get for one Genshin Impact skin?

    Trick question! It's lootbox-based. Might be an inch, might be metric fuckton.


  • BINNED

    @LaoC said in WTF Bites:

    And then, there's gAmInG r00TeRz with "Triple-level Game Acceleration", 10 Gbit (yeah right) and totally not overpriced at $549.99:

    :phb:: Make the antennas look like a dinosaur, it'll boost gaming performance.
    👴: But the antenna is inside the casing.
    :phb:: Then just put some plastic there instead.
    💰


  • Banned

    @topspin you're holding it wrong! It's not dinosaurs, it's a headcrab! (The poisonous one from Ravenholm.) Classic gaming reference.

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  • BINNED

    @Gustav said in WTF Bites:

    Ravenholm

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  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @cvi said in WTF Bites:

    The "triple level game acceleration" might ostensibly do something with traffic (e.g. prioritize certain packets -- whether you want that or not is a different question).

    It's possible that they're doing something to reduce latency of small packets, such as using an event-driven hardware scheduler instead of the more common time-driven one (those are great for bandwidth and easy to get right, but add latency to small packets). It won't matter for gaming over the internet, as your ISP will definitely be doing time-driven packet handling on their routers, but for more local networks it might see some real benefit. But the clocks on these things are so fast that the benefit will be on the level of being measurable with instruments rather than human perception...



  • @dkf Doubt they do that much even.

    I'm guessing that this router (like most others) is just a lightweight Linux or BSD box with a "nice" web front-end.

    It probably just has a few QoS rules to prioritize some well-known game-related protocols over bittorrent or whatever. But I doubt they do that at a hardware level.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @cvi said in WTF Bites:

    Doubt they do that much even.

    I also doubt that they do. They could, but then they'd be doing more than :kneeling_warthog: and 🤑 expect.



  • @Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF Bites:

    ITS A BLOODY KEYBAORD

    You should probably clean it.



  • @Arantor said in WTF Bites:

    Steam sales for games they might play eventually.

    I am in this post. Well, sort of. For free or almost-free games, anyway; if I've paid real money for it, I'll usually actually play it, at least a little.


  • Considered Harmful

    @HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:

    @Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF Bites:

    ITS A BLOODY KEYBAORD

    You should probably clean it.

    Most keyboards I've used already came with a period.


  • Notification Spam Recipient

    the texture of the fabric makes the mini-computer feel like an old friend

    :wtf: I don't know weather to format it or cop a feel after reading that.



  • @Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF Bites:

    From the article

    Computer hardware continues to evolve and :airquotes:break new ground:airquotes: as time goes on.


  • Considered Harmful

    @DogsB said in WTF Bites:

    the texture of the fabric makes the mini-computer feel like an old friend

    :wtf: I don't know weather to format it or cop a feel after reading that.

    Be careful. It has

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    ☢



  • @Gustav said in WTF Bites:

    There are people who take $20000 out of their retirement account just to give it to scammers pretending to be their own grandchildrenbuy the next hot bitcoin.

    That didn't go where I expected. Fixed for expectations.



  • @Arantor said in WTF Bites:

    See also things like entire tiers of self help books. If a chunk of them worked, you wouldn’t need to make any more.

    Oooh. New book: Self help for Self-helpers



  • @dcon said in WTF Bites:

    @Arantor said in WTF Bites:

    See also things like entire tiers of self help books. If a chunk of them worked, you wouldn’t need to make any more.

    Oooh. New book: Self help for Self-helpers

    A few years ago there was this infomercial running on television that has always been my favorite.

    The first several minutes are spent talking about how all diet/exercise books are bullshit and don't work. They then get down to the business at hand, pitching their new diet/exercise book.



  • @Gustav said in WTF Bites:

    If it was still 2001 that would be actually believable. Nowadays... it probably does something, but with immeasurably small or outright negative effects. Compare to CD shaver, which literally does nothing whatsoever - and cost more than that router! (Adjusted for inflation.)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-QxLAxwxkM

    I love the first comment below the video:

    And if you have a book stored on that CD, it'll make the plot clearer, the characters more compelling, and expand the intrigue of the mysteries.

    edit: And a little lower:

    You should try it on a blu-ray , it makes Tom Cruise taller and Steven Segal slimmer.



  • @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    @Gustav said in WTF Bites:

    Ravenholm

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    "u shudnt come here"
    -someons


  • Considered Harmful

    @Gustav said in WTF Bites:

    There are people who take $20000 out of their retirement account just to give it to scammers pretending to be their own grandchildren.

    There are people who take $20000000 dollars out of their accrual just to try to restore laissez-faire capitalism without labor organization.


  • BINNED


  • Considered Harmful

    @boomzilla said in WTF Bites:

    @MrL said in WTF Bites:

    @Carnage said in WTF Bites:

    @MrL said in WTF Bites:

    @Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF Bites:

    Get ready for innovation 😕

    it has an internally-built GPU and CPU

    ITS A BLOODY KEYBAORD GODDAMMIT!!1 😠

    Don't worry, gamers will slurp it up.

    We should start making a distinction between gamers and gamerphiles.

    Same picture. Gamers are the most gullible, stupid and dare I say retarded consumer group in existence. That includes dumb housewives and preschool kids.

    Starbucks is, like, a billion dollar company, or something.

    That has a purpose - for hanging around with nonalcoholic douchebags.



  • @cvi said in WTF Bites:

    @Gustav said in WTF Bites:

    Do you know how much some people spend on Genshin Impact skins?

    How many meters of "special" audiophile-grade "directional" ethernet cable do you get for one Genshin Impact skin?

    Well, if you want to go down the 🐇 🕳 :

    Genshin has very few "skins", as in different looks for a character. What it has are a bunch of ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ characters (the game's rarity system uses 1-5 star rankings, but for this purpose only 5 star items matter) with limited availability. These characters are only available for two weeks every so often. (So often being "When introduced and then whenever afterward Hoyoverse thinks they'll make enough money.")

    Most of these characters have an associated ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ weapon that is likely their best choice. These special weapons are also only available during the same two week rotation.

    In addition, all the "normal" characters (4 or 5 ⭐s) and weapons (3-5 ⭐s) are available at the same time.

    Genshin uses a "gacha" system, which works much the same as the loot boxes other games use. You convert an in-game currency (named "Primogems" or "Primos" for short) to "pulls" of the slot machine, which gives you one random item from the entire list of available items. You earn Primogems while playing the game as well as spending money. When you spend money you earn an out-of-game currency that you can convert to Primos.

    So, since it's random, what are the odds involved? Each pull of the gacha has a 0.6% chance to give you a 5 ⭐ item. Rough math will tell you that it takes 167 pulls to probably get one. Not necessarily the one you wanted, but something with that rating.

    Thankfully, the game has a few systems to make it a tiny bit less punishing. I'm going to smush them together and just call it the Pity System.

    First, you can do either 1 or 10 pulls at the same time. If you do 10 pulls at once, at least one of them is guaranteed to be a 4 ⭐ or 5 ⭐ item. So you never want to do just 1 pull.

    Second, if you do 89 pulls without getting a 5 ⭐, the 90th pull will be a 5 ⭐. (Pity 1)

    Third, for these limited availability items, the first time you get a 5 ⭐ you have a 50-50 chance for it to be the limited one. If you lose the 50-50, the second time you get a 5 ⭐ it will be the limited one. (Pity 2)

    Fourth, the chance to get a 5 ⭐ goes up the closer you get to the 90th pull.

    Combined, the above means that there's an upper bound of 180 pulls for you to get that character or weapon you want, but it's probably going to be less.

    Now that we've got the system down, let's talk money. $100 US will give you (after conversion) 8080 Primogems. A pull costs 160 Primogems, so that $100 gives you 50.5 pulls. $300 gives you 151.5 pulls, which is probably enough to get that limited character or weapon. $400 will ensure it with some pulls left over.

    However, that just gets you one copy of one of them. Characters and weapons are improved as you get more copies of them, up to a limit. If you want to max out your new character you need to get them 7 times and their weapon 5 times. 180 * 12 = 2160 / 50.5 ≈ 42.7, so $4,300 if you have the worst luck.

    Back to the question: I remember seeing a "this is so dumb" article about a $1,000 audiophile ethernet cable, so 4 of those and maybe one "low-end" audiophile SATA cable or something?

    PSA: Just Say No to Genshin's monetization.

    Edit: I misremembered; it's 0.6%, not 0.5%, and the chance goes up as you get close to pull 90 whether or not you've lost the 50-50. The upper bound is still 180, though, so that math remains the same. You're just more likely to hit it before then than I thought, typically between 75 and 80 pulls.


  • Considered Harmful

    @Gribnit said in WTF Bites:

    @Gustav said in WTF Bites:

    There are people who take $20000 out of their retirement account just to give it to scammers pretending to be their own grandchildren.

    There are people who take $20000000 dollars out of their accrual just to try to restore laissez-faire capitalism without labor organization.

    ISTR it was more like 44,000,000,000.


  • 🚽 Regular

    @Parody tl;dr;but look at all the pretty stars.



  • @Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF Bites:

    Get ready for innovation 😕

    it has an internally-built GPU and CPU

    ITS A BLOODY KEYBAORD GODDAMMIT!!1 😠

    Oh, so we're gone back full circle to the Good'Ol Days when the keyboard was the whole computer!



  • @kazitor This reminds me of the Monster Train mod that simply changes "Fiend" to "Friend" on the two cards that have the former.



  • @remi said in WTF Bites:

    Oh, so we're gone back full circle to the Good'Ol Days when the keyboard was the whole computer!

    Well not the whole computer: The PSU was in the monitor.



  • @Medinoc said in WTF Bites:

    Well not the whole computer: The PSU was in the monitor.

    IIRC you could also use a regular TV as the monitor, so I'm not sure about that. Though maybe if you wanted to do that you needed to add a special adaptor that also handled the power supply. I do remember that there only was one cable out of the keyboard and it went to the screen, so in some way or another the power supply had to go through that.

    I don't really remember, I was too young to care about what cables were for, just that this goes into that, and that goes there, and now I press here to load my game and... 😴 wait until the whole cassette is loaded.

    (my mind was blown the day I discovered that the game cassettes were just music cassettes (though usually shorter ones, we had mostly 15/30 min ones I think), and that the sound that the computer played while loading them was the actual sound if you read the cassette in a regular tape player)



  • @remi said in WTF Bites:

    @Medinoc said in WTF Bites:

    Well not the whole computer: The PSU was in the monitor.

    IIRC you could also use a regular TV as the monitor, so I'm not sure about that. Though maybe if you wanted to do that you needed to add a special adaptor that also handled the power supply. I do remember that there only was one cable out of the keyboard and it went to the screen, so in some way or another the power supply had to go through that.

    Indeed, the the MP2 adaptor box took over power supply duties.

    I don't really remember, I was too young to care about what cables were for, just that this goes into that, and that goes there, and now I press here to load my game and... 😴 wait until the whole cassette is loaded.

    (my mind was blown the day I discovered that the game cassettes were just music cassettes (though usually shorter ones, we had mostly 15/30 min ones I think), and that the sound that the computer played while loading them was the actual sound if you read the cassette in a regular tape player)

    My 6128 had three cables linking the keyboard to the monitor: IIRC those were the computer's regular 5V DC power, the video output, and the 12V DC power (which I think was only for the 6128 and its 3" diskette drive -- if that's the case, I'm not sure why the 464/664 didn't need one for their cassette drive)



  • @Medinoc said in WTF Bites:

    My 6128 had three cables linking the keyboard to the monitor: IIRC those were the computer's regular 5V DC power, the video output, and the 12V DC power (which I think was only for the 6128 and its 3" diskette drive -- if that's the case, I'm not sure why the 464/664 didn't need one for their cassette drive)

    I can't really remember, to be honest. The computer didn't move often so while I knew the cables, I didn't have to care about them often enough to remember decades later. Turning it on/off is a different matter, that I remember very well!

    We had a 464 to which a external diskette drive was added a couple of years later. It sadly was the weak point of the whole computer, as it died at least twice and the last time was when we got rid of the computer -- but I'm pretty sure the central unit itself (and screen) was still perfectly functional, we never had any issue with those!



  • @remi said in WTF Bites:

    We had a 464 to which a external diskette drive was added a couple of years later. It sadly was the weak point of the whole computer, as it died at least twice and the last time was when we got rid of the computer -- but I'm pretty sure the central unit itself (and screen) was still perfectly functional, we never had any issue with those!

    Don't worry, the 6128's internal diskette drive is also the weak point. Specifically a little belt in it, which can be replaced if you have some good material for it, until eventually some other part of it fails.



  • @remi said in WTF Bites:

    and that the sound that the computer played while loading them was the actual sound if you read the cassette in a regular tape player

    Meanwhile the likes of ZX Spectrum were simply attached to a regular tape players, which made it kinda obvious.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @Bulb said in WTF Bites:

    Meanwhile the likes of ZX Spectrum were simply attached to a regular tape players, which made it kinda obvious.

    It was best if you had a really cheap tape player, without any fancy correction for distortion. Lots of people went with fancy players with Dolby sound correction, and that would make them work worse for data, which really wanted just raw access to the signal straight off the tape.



  • @dkf said in WTF Bites:

    @Bulb said in WTF Bites:

    Meanwhile the likes of ZX Spectrum were simply attached to a regular tape players, which made it kinda obvious.

    It was best if you had a really cheap tape player, without any fancy correction for distortion. Lots of people went with fancy players with Dolby sound correction, and that would make them work worse for data, which really wanted just raw access to the signal straight off the tape.

    Yeah, basically the "normal" players (stereo, dual-tape) did not work at all. At least with ZX Spectrum.



  • @Parody said in WTF Bites:

    However, that just gets you one copy of one of them. Characters and weapons are improved as you get more copies of them, up to a limit. If you want to max out your new character you need to get them 7 times and their weapon 5 times. 180 * 12 = 2160 / 50.5 ≈ 42.7, so $4,300 if you have the worst luck.

    Well, to be honest, it's not really "gaming", it's actually "gambling".

    Train simulator with all DLCs costs over $10000 ; no luck involved, just plain invoice.



  • https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/azure-devops-docs/issues/8141

    The last comment sums it up rather nicely:

    Please add this as a product request here:

    This issue has reached another level of laziness, I just can't find an appropriate way to describe how incompetent all of the Microsoft team members or collaborators are who have participated in the issue.

    The issue was opened on April 29th, 2020, then @ramiMSFT commented almost one year later, we spent around 7 months with a back-and-forth discussion with him because he wasn't capable of understanding the real issue, just proposing random ideas and links to documentation.

    When @jorfde finally looked into the problem, after waiting 2.5 years, all he said was that it wasn't possible, which everyone already knew, and just without further action, the problem was closed.

    Finally, @WilliamAntonRohm joins the conversation and suggests using Azure DevOps Support and/or StackOverflow, my question is: how are they going to be able to help us if this is impossible to do in any way?

    Just to wrap up/sum up, we need to create a new issue in the developer community, so how long would it take to get implemented? It's sheer madness, to be honest.

    Thank you all, another great story to share amongst the dev community.



  • @Bulb said in WTF Bites:

    I just can't find an appropriate way to describe how incompetent all of the Microsoft team members or collaborators are

    QFT



  • @TimeBandit As usual for humongous corporations, Microsoft is more of a conglomerate of companies working in rather loose formation than a single entity. So it probably has some competent teams¹. But this is not one of them. After all, would anybody sane try to build a cloudless cloud?


  • BINNED

    @Parody so this is a game?
    Sounds more like a gambling addiction, and not a particularly fun one. Why don’t people spend that money on, idk, horse racing instead?


  • I survived the hour long Uno hand

    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    @Parody so this is a game?
    Sounds more like a gambling addiction, and not a particularly fun one. Why don’t people spend that money on, idk, horse racing instead?

    Because you don't get borderline porn at the ponies :half-trolling:


  • BINNED

    @izzion not with that attitude.


  • Grade A Premium Asshole

    I'm trying to get a screenshot of something in OSX Activity Monitor, but every time I hit Cmd + Shift + 4 everything keeps jumping around on me and fucking up how I want the screenshot to look. It probably took a dozen attempts for me to realize that I am probably spawning a process above the section I am wanting to capture in the window and causing them all to be bumped down.

    Windows Snipping tool is pretty shit but at least it does not do this. What it does do, now that I am reminded of it, is preempt all search results for "print" in the Apps menu. Want to find "Print Management"? Tough shit, "Snipping Tool" will be first in the results and sometimes "Print Management" won't appear in the results at all.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:

    I'm trying to get a screenshot of something in OSX Activity Monitor, but every time I hit Cmd + Shift + 4 everything keeps jumping around on me and fucking up how I want the screenshot to look.

    How is it sorted? Mine's sorted on CPU percentage and stuff jumps around all the time, taking a screenshot doesn't make that worse.

    Set it to refresh every 5 seconds, hit Cmd + Shift + 4 + Space and then Return.


  • Grade A Premium Asshole

    @loopback0 said in WTF Bites:

    How is it sorted? Mine's sorted on CPU percentage and stuff jumps around all the time, taking a screenshot doesn't make that worse.

    I was sorting alphabetically so that all of a particular application's processes were together. I was attempting to get a screenshot of everything that Slack uses so whatever is happening is happening above "S".


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