TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML)
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@PleegWat said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@Gąska what is a
mgsin
.Are you joking, or did you just misread
m*g*sin(<angle>)
?
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@JBert I did initially misread it because of the missing spacing (there should be half-width spaces between variables, and not between the letters of
sin
). I decided to roll with it for comedic effect, but I'm bad at comedic effect.
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@PleegWat said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
there should be half-width spaces between variables
Your handwriting must be a lot more consistent than mine.
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@topspin Well, certainly in this case there should be more space between
g
ands
than betweens
andi
.
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@PleegWat said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
I'm bad at comedic effect.
Proof that Dutch is almost German.
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@HardwareGeek said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@PleegWat said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
I'm bad at comedic effect.
Proof that Dutch is almost German.
Where do you think we put the people where the Humor Removal Surgery was only a partial success?
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@Rhywden said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
Where do you think we put the people where the Humor Removal Surgery was only a partial success?
USA?
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@Luhmann said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@Rhywden said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
Where do you think we put the people where the Humor Removal Surgery was only a partial success?
USA?
Naw, that's the dumping ground for the people where the surgeon slipped and accidentally did a lobotomy.
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@Gąska said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
Naturally, s̈ is the second derivative of s(t). Also known as acceleration.
I believe that's the original notation used by Newton. Most of the time, mathematicians prefer the Leibnitz notation (ds/dt and related) and physicists are plain old inconsistent because of course they are.
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@dkf said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@Gąska said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
Naturally, s̈ is the second derivative of s(t). Also known as acceleration.
I believe that's the original notation used by Newton. Most of the time, mathematicians prefer the Leibnitz notation (ds/dt and related) and physicists are plain old inconsistent because of course they are.
It's usually when it's ambiguous that we use Leibniz (without the "t" - the other one is a baker of cookies). Though Nabla is one of the other ways around that...
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@dkf Dots are time derivatives, primes are (usually) spacial derivatives, while df/dx is for "generic" derivatives. And then there are partial derivatives, and all the special differential operators.
Physicists are lazy, so the less we have to write, the better.
And the equations of motion are usually written in differential form (dots, not a) once you get past baby physics.
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@Benjamin-Hall And you also get into the whole business that it's not velocity so much as momentum.
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@Benjamin-Hall I've seen the dots a lot in math (where they are not time derivatives, because all the variables are abstract), but rarely in physics where the dy/dx notation is more common for clarity. With a notable exception of using ṁ for mass flow rate, which does otherwise have a customary variable name.
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Went to a new physical therapist today (because the guys at my surgeon's are just too far away) and he had me doing some of this:
Pretty cool.
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@boomzilla I'm not sure though that the editor of this article knows that "novel" is not quite the appropriate word here.
In this novel training method developed in Japan by Dr. Yoshiaki Sato in 1966,
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@Rhywden said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@boomzilla I'm not sure though that the editor of this article knows that "novel" is not quite the appropriate word here.
In this novel training method developed in Japan by Dr. Yoshiaki Sato in 1966,
Not if you read one while training
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@Rhywden well, the relevant patents were only filed in the 90s, and it really took of in popularity in mid-2010s. Dr. Sato is still pumping out papers trying to convince others it works.
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@Gąska Well, considering what he looks like I guess the method works really well in general
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@Gąska said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@Rhywden well, the relevant patents were only filed in the 90s
You’ve got to be shitting me, right?
Fuck, the only fix for patents seems to be the nuke from orbit option.
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@Rhywden said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
"novel" is not quite the appropriate word here
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@Zerosquare That was more than a few years ago, even for me. It was also not a memorable year for me. I'm trying to remember anything that happened (to me; I could look up historical events) that year, and I'm not coming up with anything. There are some things in the general "elementary school years" bin that could maybe be in 1966, and one that I'm pretty sure was either '66 or '67, but it's long enough ago that without old photos or home movies to provide a reference, I can't pin anything to a specific year.
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@HardwareGeek said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@Zerosquare That was more than a few years ago, even for me. It was also not a memorable year for me. I'm trying to remember anything that happened (to me; I could look up historical events) that year, and I'm not coming up with anything. There are some things in the general "elementary school years" bin that could maybe be in 1966, and one that I'm pretty sure was either '66 or '67, but it's long enough ago that without old photos or home movies to provide a reference, I can't pin anything to a specific year.
That's anything more than a few months for me. My memory is very good at being shit. Expect for random and useless trivia. Something I sort of proved on New year's Eve, by winning 6 straight games of something called "idiotkunskap".
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@Carnage Yeah, I remember a few specific incidents, like the day the principal came into the school room in tears because JFK had been shot, but nothing I can pin to 1966. The thing from '66 or '67, I remember what grade I was in, but not at what point during the school year, so I can't say for certain which calendar year it was (but probably '67). A couple of other things, I remember what grade I was in, which makes them definitely not '66. But most of the things I remember, to the extent I remember them at all, I just remember as "some time during elementary school".
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@Carnage said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
"idiotkunskap".
TIL a bowling ball can have up to 12 holes: 5 gripping holes (thumb and fingers); 5 venting holes (one for each gripping hole),
1 milling hole (for the bowler to touch the inside and check its hardness), and 1 balance hole (for, you know, balance).
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TIL about the
debugger;
JS (ok, browser api) command. Handy when your HTML "pages" (well, dialogs) are a total in how they're loaded so you can't put one in the JS normally from the console.
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@Benjamin-Hall It is oooooooooooooooooold. I think it started with IE4.
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@Zecc said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@Benjamin-Hall It is oooooooooooooooooold. I think it started with IE4.
Yeah. Back before there were good debugging tools in the browsers themselves. But still useful in some circumstances.
One of the perils of being entirely self-taught is that some things like this that are (?) common knowledge slip by for longer than they should.
Our web interface is a total of hacks layered on hacks. So sometimes getting a debugger into the right place from the dev tools is impossible. This will make it way nicer.
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@Benjamin-Hall I think being self-taught has little to do with it.
There are just too many things to learn, and they keep changing.In fact, to keep up with stuff in our industry, you need self-teach continuously.
No one taught me git, for example, or JavaScript's and Python's object models, or C# asynchronous programming.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
TIL about the
debugger;
JS (ok, browser api) command. Handy when your HTML "pages" (well, dialogs) are a total in how they're loaded so you can't put one in the JS normally from the console.Now that you learned about it, don't forget to take it out of your code. At my job we've had more than one internal ticket from QA making fun of the dev who left the statement in some corner case code.
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@JBert Yeah. Almost forgot.
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TIL Rosa Parks didn't actually break any laws. What the bus driver did was already illegal even before any civil rights reforms.
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The amplified cactus is a medium rarely written for, even in the contemporary music genre. John Cage composed Child of Tree (1975) and Branches (1976) for what he described as "amplified plant materials". Cage was a large proponent of chance music and felt that the organic nature of music without man-made instruments was very strong and influential.
But of course.
EDIT: Somewhat reasonable demonstration at the 2:00 mark, watch the first half for the more bizarre sounds a bowed cactus makes:
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@JBert John Cage was definitely not just trolling.
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@Gribnit said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@JBert John Cage was definitely not just trolling.
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TIL Juliet in Romeo and Juliet is just 13, and Romeo is not much older. The whole thing suddenly got much creepier.
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@Gąska Isn't there something like a "Romeo and Juliet exemption" on sex with minors from when they met before one of them reached adulthood, or when their ages are close?
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@Zecc there is usually such a thing and it’s named after the play because the play is creepy.
Though that’s also a certain amount of revisionist thinking, as age of consent used to be lower in less modern times, assuming consent was cared about.
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@Arantor Age of marriage (consensual or otherwise) tended to be fairly soon after physical maturity, which tended to happen a little later than in modern society, so 13–14 was pretty typical for girls, maybe 15–16 for boys. Also, the whole concept of adolescence is quite modern. You were either a child or an adult, and when you became an adult, you did adult things like getting married.
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@Zecc said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@Gąska Isn't there something like a "Romeo and Juliet exemption" on sex with minors from when they met before one of them reached adulthood, or when their ages are close?
Yes but it mostly pertains to 17 year olds, not middle schoolers!
And also, sex and marriage is one thing. I meant stuff like duels to death and selling deadly poison for the purpose of suicide. That was never okay at that age, in any century.
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@HardwareGeek pretty much, yup.
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@Gąska said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
Yes but it mostly pertains to 17 year olds, not middle schoolers!
Just saying it's where the name comes from.
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@Gąska said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
And also, sex and marriage is one thing. I meant stuff like duels to death and selling deadly poison for the purpose of suicide. That was never okay at that age, in any century.
Oh right. That.
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@Gąska said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@Zecc said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@Gąska Isn't there something like a "Romeo and Juliet exemption" on sex with minors from when they met before one of them reached adulthood, or when their ages are close?
Yes but it mostly pertains to 17 year olds, not middle schoolers!
And also, sex and marriage is one thing. I meant stuff like duels to death and selling deadly poison for the purpose of suicide. That was never okay at that age, in any century.
Yeah, but if they just did "okay" stuff in the play it wouldn't have been very entertaining, just like most of the stuff we consume today.
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@boomzilla most of the stuff we consume doesn't have 13 year olds committing suicide. I get your point, I'm just saying, the yuck factor is particularly high here.
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@Gąska said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@boomzilla most of the stuff we consume doesn't have 13 year olds committing suicide. I get your point, I'm just saying, the yuck factor is particularly high here.
Well, we have current media where 13 year olds are involved in gang warfare, drugs, murder, rapes and stuff that makes Romeo and Juliet seem fairly benign. The worst part is that most of that media is news media.
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@Carnage I stopped watching news years ago. You dhould too.
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@Gąska said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@Carnage I stopped watching news years ago. You dhould too.
I pretty much did. I'm still aware of the problem though. Hell, in not even on social media, so i don't even get the distilled REEEEEE!!! and it's nice.
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@Arantor said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
rather NSFW, be warned.
I'm not sure, maybe the article has changed but I didn't find anything particularly apalling.
Well, maybe the "how TCP/IP works" explanation, but really, at least it wasn't "a series of tubes"
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@Tsaukpaetra said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
@Arantor said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
rather NSFW, be warned.
I'm not sure, maybe the article has changed but I didn't find anything particularly apalling.
Well, maybe the "how TCP/IP works" explanation, but really, at least it wasn't "a series of tubes"
Would you rather have people find out it's a series of swings, slides, and merry-go-rounds? They'd've panicked.
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@Gribnit said in TIL (about the Dark Arts of HTML):
They'd've panicked.
I think they would have found that new feelings and sensations have awakened inside of them...