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    @Gąska said in Nope, you eat it:

    @GuyWhoKilledBear said in Nope, you eat it:

    Which is why I didn't look up whether Toronto or Montreal was the capitol of Canada

    Oh the irony.

    Did you see the picture of the bus?



  • @GuyWhoKilledBear said in Nope, you eat it:

    it's not a district language from the one they speak in Germany.

    Ask a German if Austrians speak the same language. They don't think even Bavarians speak the same language, and Bavaria is part of Germany.

    But I'm interested in knowing how they came up with "there's 9 cultures, rather than 8 or 10" and how they drew those boundaries.

    Germany as a single, unified country didn't exist until the formation of the German Empire in 1871. Even during the Holy Roman Empire, it was a relatively loose empire of individual Germanic kingdoms, duchies, principalities and whatnot that retained at least some degree of cultural individuality, which was further restored following the Peace of Westphalia in 1648.


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    @hungrier said in Nope, you eat it:

    @Zerosquare said in Nope, you eat it:

    @GuyWhoKilledBear said in Nope, you eat it:

    Do the Austrians Canadians speak a disinct language from the Germans Americans? Heck, do they have a different culture than Germany the USA?

    🔧 🚎

    Some Canadians speak a strange language where half the letters are silent, and their calendar week starts on Monday

    An interesting combination of totally insane and completely sane.



  • @HardwareGeek said in Nope, you eat it:

    They don't think even Bavarians speak the same language,

    It's far enough away as a dialect it might not be entirely recognisable.

    Austrian is even further away in some respects and nearer in others, in the same way that Latin-derivatives are not so different if you are familiar with the root language and can account for the drift over time.


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    @Arantor Austrian is okay-ish to understand. Not really worse than Bavarian.
    Now Schwyzerdütsch, that’s just a lot of made up nonsense pronounced by people with throat cancer. 🚎

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  • Banned

    @GuyWhoKilledBear said in Nope, you eat it:

    @Gąska said in Nope, you eat it:

    @GuyWhoKilledBear said in Nope, you eat it:

    Because there's about 200 countries

    We were talking Europe. Stop :moving_goal_post: all the fucking time.

    Fine. Wikipedia says that there's "about 50" countries in Europe. I think that it's too much to ask that every educated person memorize all 50 European capitals, especially if they don't have any specific dealings with any country in Europe.

    Rome, Madrid, Lisbon, Dublin, Reykjavik, Paris, Berlin, London, Warsaw, Kiev, Minsk, Prague, Bratislava, Bren, Budapest, Vienna, Brussels, Oslo, Stockholm, Bucharest, Amsterdam, Luxembourg, Vilnius. And Moscow if you insist. I skipped the Balkans of course, and the many city-states cuz come on. Yes, I still missed a few. I'm pretty bad at geography. But if you're worse than me, a high school dropout - how can you call yourself educated?

    As for major American cities. I know New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle, Pittsburgh, Las Vegas, New Orleans, Miami and DC. I've also heard of and know an approximate location of Boston, Phoenix and Dallas. How many from top 10 did I miss?

    I don't necessarily expect people to match any of the three to to the right country beyond "It's somewhere in Europe." But there's "about 50" US states, and I don't expect Europeans to match those capitals to those states either.

    The difference is, I don't expect average American to know all 50 states, let alone their capitals. While Europeans knowing all the European capitals, at least the ones within EU, is rather normal.

    The page that starts with:

    Austrian German... is the variety of German language written and spoken in Austria?

    If it's a "variety of German language" then it's not a district language from the one they speak in Germany.

    If you lived in Europe, you'd know that the barrier between a language and a dialect is ill defined and it's often a purely political demarcation. There's more differences between German German and Austrian German than between Russian and Ukrainian.

    It's only been the capital of Austria continuously since 1946. Most US state capitals have been capitals for longer than that.

    Oh, you must have more information available than Wikipedia. Pray tell, what other city was ever a capital of Austria in its nearly 1000 year history? (I know where you're going with your argument, I just want to see how you're planning to defend this one without sounding like a Nazi sympathizer.)

    Germans themselves have nine different cultures. They're a federal country like USA.

    This I'm seriously interested in.

    Seriously seriously, or "haha in your face" seriously? Of course the lines are going to be blurry, and not everyone agrees where they are, and things change over time, and the differences are minimal anyway thanks to globalism, and they're all Germans at heart still.

    France, for example, is much more culturally unified than Germany. Same with Italy, Poland, Denmark and Austria, for example. UK is even more diverse than Germany (and I'm not talking about all the imported black people). Spain is somewhere between UK and Germany. But all of the mentioned cultures are generally the same, because globalization, and because EU.

    What clothing is usually associated with Germans? Beyond grey uniforms with red armbands, I bet you're itching to say lederhosen. Did you know the traditional lederhosen is a uniquely Bavarian thing and wasn't worn anywhere else in Germany? Except for neighboring Swabia, but their lederhosen was somewhat different.


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    @topspin said in Nope, you eat it:

    @DogsB said in Nope, you eat it:

    @Arantor said in Nope, you eat it:

    not even the “England” bit but the “Sussex” part

    Sussex: Webbed feet
    Essex: Webbed fingers

    You people and your geography. As an Irishman, with a glint in my eye, a song in my heart and a passport that can get me into most countries unmolested, our only notion of geography is: "Ireland" or "Not Ireland".

    For me it's "Ireland" and "Whish this was Ireland"“Irish I were drunk”. 🍀


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    @Gąska said in Nope, you eat it:

    @GuyWhoKilledBear said in Nope, you eat it:

    @Gąska said in Nope, you eat it:

    @GuyWhoKilledBear said in Nope, you eat it:

    Because there's about 200 countries

    We were talking Europe. Stop :moving_goal_post: all the fucking time.

    Fine. Wikipedia says that there's "about 50" countries in Europe. I think that it's too much to ask that every educated person memorize all 50 European capitals, especially if they don't have any specific dealings with any country in Europe.

    Rome, Madrid, Lisbon, Dublin, Reykjavik, Paris, Berlin, London, Warsaw, Kiev, Minsk, Prague, Bratislava, Bren, Budapest, Vienna, Brussels, Oslo, Stockholm, Bucharest, Amsterdam, Luxembourg, Vilnius. And Moscow if you insist. I skipped the Balkans of course, and the many city-states cuz come on. Yes, I still missed a few. I'm pretty bad at geography. But if you're worse than me, a high school dropout - how can you call yourself educated?

    I'm educated in computer science and software engineering, in the specific field that my employer's customers are in (I'm not going to identify this for fear of doxxing myself), in how American government works, and in how human nature works.

    I have a working level of knowledge, but not a great knowledge, of biology, chemistry, and physics, and classical English literature (i.e. the most famous of Shakespeare's plays - Macbeth, Romeo and Juliet, and sort of Othello.)

    Nobody can know everything, and if you're not in Europe, the capitals of minor European countries are sort of trivia.

    As for major American cities. I know New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle, Pittsburgh, Las Vegas, New Orleans, Miami and DC. I've also heard of and know an approximate location of Boston, Phoenix and Dallas. How many from top 10 did I miss?

    About half. By size, you're missing Houston (#4), Philadelphia (#6), San Antonio (#7), San Diego (#8), and San Jose (#10).

    By a subjective measure of "importance", Detroit probably belongs on the list. Although by that measure, every city you named is probably more "important" than San Antonio.

    I don't necessarily expect people to match any of the three to to the right country beyond "It's somewhere in Europe." But there's "about 50" US states, and I don't expect Europeans to match those capitals to those states either.

    The difference is, I don't expect average American to know all 50 states, let alone their capitals. While Europeans knowing all the European capitals, at least the ones within EU, is rather normal.

    Given a map, the average American can name all 50 states. All 50 state capitals is trivia also, especially because most states' most important city isn't their capital.

    The page that starts with:

    Austrian German... is the variety of German language written and spoken in Austria?

    If it's a "variety of German language" then it's not a district language from the one they speak in Germany.

    If you lived in Europe, you'd know that the barrier between a language and a dialect is ill defined and it's often a purely political demarcation. There's more differences between German German and Austrian German than between Russian and Ukrainian.

    The only thing I know about the difference between Austrian German versus German German is that one of Hitler's arguments was that he wanted to unite all the German-speaking people under one rule, and that was persuasive enough to the Austrians that they let him take over.

    The Germans also didn't think it was particularly weird for him to be saying that, given that they elected him Chancellor.

    It's only been the capital of Austria continuously since 1946. Most US state capitals have been capitals for longer than that.

    Oh, you must have more information available than Wikipedia. Pray tell, what other city was ever a capital of Austria in its nearly 1000 year history? (I know where you're going with your argument, I just want to see how you're planning to defend this one without sounding like a Nazi sympathizer.)

    First off, I looked on Wikipedia to see exactly how old Vienna was. I would have guessed it existed in the 1500s, so was probably founded in the 1200s or 1300s. Apparently people have been continuously living there for almost 2000 years, so there's that.

    Even though Vienna is that old, Austria isn't that old. Austria has continuously been an independent country since 1946, but there were other countries called Austria with the same general area before World War II. The Holy Roman Empire had Vienna as its capital (and so "Austria" didn't.) By the way you're framing the question, I'm guessing that the Austro-Hungarian Empire (rather than "Austria") had Vienna and not Budapest as its capital.

    And obviously the concept of a "country" with a "capital city" would have been blurry for the first thousand years of Vienna's existence.

    Germans themselves have nine different cultures. They're a federal country like USA.

    This I'm seriously interested in.

    Seriously seriously, or "haha in your face" seriously?

    Seriously seriously. The pumpkin spice/basic white women thing I wrote to you this morning was surprisingly difficult to write because I had to differentiate them from Karens (same idea, but a generation older) and from Women's March Types (same age, but liberal politics as their most important hobby).

    There's only so much rigor I can put into a shitpost for the Garage, and I'm curious to see how people who are getting paid taxpayer money justify where they draw their lines.

    Of course the lines are going to be blurry, and not everyone agrees where they are, and things change over time, and the differences are minimal anyway thanks to globalism, and they're all Germans at heart still.

    Fine. But I've never heard someone say that there's an exact number of cultures in a given country. If I had to guess whether there's more or less than a hundred cultures in the US, I'd guess there's more. But I have no idea how a professional demographer would go about coming up with a specific number.

    France, for example, is much more culturally unified than Germany. Same with Italy, Poland, Denmark and Austria, for example.

    UK is even more diverse than Germany (and I'm not talking about all the imported black people). Spain is somewhere between UK and Germany. But all of the mentioned cultures are generally the same, because globalization, and because EU.

    Yeah, exactly. From over here on this side of the Atlantic Ocean, "European culture" looks pretty similar, even though it's actually a blend of a bunch of little cultures.

    I don't have this experience, but I bet Chicago and New Jersey look more similar from Poland than they do from Chicago.

    What clothing is usually associated with Germans? Beyond grey uniforms with red armbands, I bet you're itching to say lederhosen. Did you know the traditional lederhosen is a uniquely Bavarian thing and wasn't worn anywhere else in Germany? Except for neighboring Swabia, but their lederhosen was somewhat different.

    Interesting note about lederhosen. Nobody from New Jersey has ever worn a cowboy hat, but if you were to come up with a "stereotypical American" and put him in a cowboy hat, I wouldn't argue the point.


  • Banned

    @GuyWhoKilledBear said in Nope, you eat it:

    @Gąska said in Nope, you eat it:

    @GuyWhoKilledBear said in Nope, you eat it:

    @Gąska said in Nope, you eat it:

    @GuyWhoKilledBear said in Nope, you eat it:

    Because there's about 200 countries

    We were talking Europe. Stop :moving_goal_post: all the fucking time.

    Fine. Wikipedia says that there's "about 50" countries in Europe. I think that it's too much to ask that every educated person memorize all 50 European capitals, especially if they don't have any specific dealings with any country in Europe.

    Rome, Madrid, Lisbon, Dublin, Reykjavik, Paris, Berlin, London, Warsaw, Kiev, Minsk, Prague, Bratislava, Bren, Budapest, Vienna, Brussels, Oslo, Stockholm, Bucharest, Amsterdam, Luxembourg, Vilnius. And Moscow if you insist. I skipped the Balkans of course, and the many city-states cuz come on. Yes, I still missed a few. I'm pretty bad at geography. But if you're worse than me, a high school dropout - how can you call yourself educated?

    I'm educated in computer science and software engineering, in the specific field that my employer's customers are in (I'm not going to identify this for fear of doxxing myself), in how American government works, and in how human nature works.

    I have a working level of knowledge, but not a great knowledge, of biology, chemistry, and physics, and classical English literature (i.e. the most famous of Shakespeare's plays - Macbeth, Romeo and Juliet, and sort of Othello.)

    Nobody can know everything, and if you're not in Europe, the capitals of minor European countries are sort of trivia.

    But there are certain things that just should be known by everybody who considers themselves educated. This seems to be one of the differences between American and European cultures. Americans seem to think (assuming you're a representative American) that educated literally means someone who undergone education. For Europeans, an educated man is one with general knowledge in a few particular fields. Literature, history, arts to some extent, at least high school-level maths, physics, chemistry and biology (by European standards; Americans learn significantly less in high schools and are far more specialized), basic world politics, and enough grasp of scientific method to understand importance of good research. And enough geography to not make a fool of themselves when someone says "I'm from <one of the major cities of the world>".

    Even though Vienna is that old, Austria isn't that old. Austria has continuously been an independent country since 1946, but there were other countries called Austria with the same general area before World War II.

    As a Pole, I'm contractually obliged to be very mad at you for what you just said here. As you may or may not be aware, there were long periods in Polish history where there was no officially recognized Polish state. There was that one time the Piast dynasty divided the Crown into 100 tiny duchies, but other than that, it was always due to a foreign invasion. Most significantly, the partitions of the late 18th century which removed Poland from the maps (schools love that phrase) until the end of WW1. And during that entire time, there were nationalist revolutions all the fucking time. About one major revolution every 30 years on average. And between the revolutions people kept fighting to keep the national spirit alive. Some of the best Polish poets lived in the time there was no Poland, and they are 100% genuine Poles who strongly identified with Poland.

    Governments come and go. Borders move. They expand, shrink, join and separate. But the people stay, and their countries stay with them. They might not have a government, they might not have international recognition, but to the people, Kosovo is still Kosovo, Tibet is still Tibet, Silesia is still Silesia, Catalonia is still Catalonia, Flanders is still Flanders. And Austria in 1940 was still Austria to the Austrians living there.

    BTW Austria didn't gain independence until 1955.

    The Holy Roman Empire had Vienna as its capital (and so "Austria" didn't.)

    :um-actually: Vienna was both the capital of HRE and at the same time the capital of the Duchy of Austria and later the Archduchy of Austria. Regardless of your views on continuity of countries, you are factually wrong here. And that's not just pointless pedantry - there were times when the duke of Austria was NOT the emperor.

    By the way you're framing the question, I'm guessing that the Austro-Hungarian Empire (rather than "Austria") had Vienna and not Budapest as its capital.

    Duh. Austria was more important. The Kingdom of Hungary, a part of Austria-Hungary, still had its capital in Budapest.

    And obviously the concept of a "country" with a "capital city" would have been blurry for the first thousand years of Vienna's existence.

    Country - yes (modern rules don't allow stacking). But the capital city is an ancient concept that was implemented by every European monarchy after Charlemagne (and Austria was created after Charlemagne).

    Of course the lines are going to be blurry, and not everyone agrees where they are, and things change over time, and the differences are minimal anyway thanks to globalism, and they're all Germans at heart still.

    Fine. But I've never heard someone say that there's an exact number of cultures in a given country.

    In Europe, the rule of thumb is: 1 culture per country; 1 culture per sub-country inside federal countries (UK, Germany, Belgium; Russia is an exception due to Soviet purges); 1 culture per commonly spoken language in multi-lingual countries (e.g. Netherlands has 4); 1 culture per a serious national independence movement (e.g. Catalonians and Basques in Spain). For some reason, societies naturally separate themselves along those boundaries.

    Also, I was wrong. Not 9 but 15.

    If I had to guess whether there's more or less than a hundred cultures in the US, I'd guess there's more.

    We're talking about "they can't understand each other talking and their Christmas looks different" kind of cultural differences. Random minor local customs don't count.

    What clothing is usually associated with Germans? Beyond grey uniforms with red armbands, I bet you're itching to say lederhosen. Did you know the traditional lederhosen is a uniquely Bavarian thing and wasn't worn anywhere else in Germany? Except for neighboring Swabia, but their lederhosen was somewhat different.

    Interesting note about lederhosen. Nobody from New Jersey has ever worn a cowboy hat, but if you were to come up with a "stereotypical American" and put him in a cowboy hat, I wouldn't argue the point.

    True. And not everyone has six guns on themselves and American flags sticking out of their ears when eating hamburgers.



  • @topspin said in Nope, you city it:

    people with throat cancer.

    That's the Dutch.



  • @GuyWhoKilledBear said in Nope, you city it:

    I bet Chicago and New Jersey look more similar from Poland than they do from Chicago.

    They look similar from anywhere that isn't either Chicago or New Jersey.

    Filed under: 💩 looks similar to 💩 :tro-pop:


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    @Arantor said in Nope, you city it:

    @HardwareGeek said in Nope, you eat it:

    They don't think even Bavarians speak the same language,

    It's far enough away as a dialect it might not be entirely recognisable.

    Fun fact: aspiring interpreters for the US army after WW2 had separate boxes to check on their "what languages do you speak" questionnaire for German and Bavarian.

    There's a whole book on a Bavarian subdialect that has sentences like
    Way an mention blows a zoo a blade sin I felt des buggy fie net!'
    Pronounce it in English and it will make perfect sense to someone from Nuremberg, but probably not anywhere further than 100km away.

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    @LaoC you sure it's Bavarian? Google says Franconian.

    Fun fact: German for Franconian is Fränkisch, but Frankish is yet another language.


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    @Gąska said in Nope, you city it:

    @LaoC you sure it's Bavarian? Google says Franconian.

    Fun fact: German for Franconian is Fränkisch, but Frankish is yet another language.

    Politically it's a part of Bavaria and the dialects are closely related, although the people would say they're under Bavarian occupation.


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    @LaoC said in Nope, you city it:

    There's a whole book on a Bavarian subdialect that has sentences like
    Way an mention blows a zoo a blade sin I felt des buggy fie net!'

    I know a little German, and I have zero idea what that is supposed represent.


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    @GOG said in Nope, you city it:

    @LaoC said in Nope, you city it:

    There's a whole book on a Bavarian subdialect that has sentences like
    Way an mention blows a zoo a blade sin I felt des buggy fie net!'

    I know a little German, and I have zero idea what that is supposed represent.

    The title is the actual translation. "Wie einem Menschen bloß ein so ein Blödsinn einfällt das packe(=verstehe) ich fei (=übrigens) nicht"


  • Trolleybus Mechanic

    @LaoC Okay... wow.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @hungrier said in Nope, you city it:

    Some Canadians speak a strange language where half the letters are silent

    The “eh”s are not silent.


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    @Gąska said in Nope, you city it:

    Rome, Madrid, Lisbon, Dublin, Reykjavik, Paris, Berlin, London, Warsaw, Kiev, Minsk, Prague, Bratislava, Bren, Budapest, Vienna, Brussels, Oslo, Stockholm, Bucharest, Amsterdam, Luxembourg, Vilnius. And Moscow if you insist. I skipped the Balkans of course, and the many city-states cuz come on. Yes, I still missed a few. I'm pretty bad at geography. But if you're worse than me, a high school dropout - how can you call yourself educated?

    I've never heard of Bren — then again I suck at geography.

    A web search for "Bren" only returned machine guns, "Bren city" didn't return anything useful either.

    So I searched for "european capitals" and I found myself at this page: https://flagsworld.org/capitals-europe.html

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    :um-actually:


    :facepalm: It just hit me Bren is a typo on Bern. Should have been immediately obvious.


    @HardwareGeek said in Nope, you city it:

    @topspin said in Nope, you city it:

    people with throat cancer.

    That's the Dutch.

    Copenhagen.


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    @Zecc said in Nope, you city it:

    Copenhagen.

    They have heart disease instead, due to the quantities of cream and butter they use in their cooking. 😋 I like Denmark, despite it being rather on the flat side.


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    @topspin looks like someone didn't understand that it's a joke. :sadface:


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    @Gąska said in Nope, you city it:

    France, for example, is much more culturally unified than Germany. Same with Italy, Poland, Denmark and Austria, for example. UK is even more diverse than Germany (and I'm not talking about all the imported black people). Spain is somewhere between UK and Germany. But all of the mentioned cultures are generally the same, because globalization, and because EU.

    Spain has some fiercely independent regions with their own languages, foremost Basque and Catalán but also Galician. Germany doesn't even come close to that. There's this sorta-Danish minority (CBA to look up the name) but you never hear about them, and not even the part of Germany with its own time zone has any secessionist ambitions ;)


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    @Gąska said in Nope, you city it:

    Did you know the traditional lederhosen is a uniquely Bavarian thing and wasn't worn anywhere else in Germany? Except for neighboring Swabia, but their lederhosen was somewhat different.

    Bavaria:

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    Black Forest:

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    Never worn either of these things, but my American friend was wearing the top (stereotypical) one for carnival once while I was donning his USAF uniform.


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    @GuyWhoKilledBear said in Nope, you city it:

    The only thing I know about the difference between Austrian German versus German German is that one of Hitler's arguments was that he wanted to unite all the German-speaking people under one rule, and that was persuasive enough to the Austrians that they let him take over.
    The Germans also didn't think it was particularly weird for him to be saying that, given that they elected him Chancellor.

    That's ... got to be the greatest simplification of events I've read so far.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @topspin said in Nope, you city it:

    That's ... got to be the greatest simplification of events I've read so far.

    It's up there with the invention of the deep dish hamburger for skipping over some critical steps.


  • Banned

    @LaoC said in Nope, you city it:

    @Gąska said in Nope, you city it:

    France, for example, is much more culturally unified than Germany. Same with Italy, Poland, Denmark and Austria, for example. UK is even more diverse than Germany (and I'm not talking about all the imported black people). Spain is somewhere between UK and Germany. But all of the mentioned cultures are generally the same, because globalization, and because EU.

    Spain has some fiercely independent regions with their own languages, foremost Basque and Catalán but also Galician. Germany doesn't even come close to that. There's this sorta-Danish minority (CBA to look up the name) but you never hear about them, and not even the part of Germany with its own time zone has any secessionist ambitions ;)

    Between UK and Germany, as in more than Germany and less than UK. Each of the UK's member countries has its own language, traditions, and reasons to hate England. While Catalans tried to secede forever, Irish actually succeeded (for the most part).

    A few years ago I've seen a very interesting Spanish movie - Bomb Scared (Fe de etarras). It's about a terrorist cell of Basque nationalists.

    Minor spoilers Without going into details, a major plot point is the conflict between old Basques, who wanted independence at all cost even if it meant their death; and young Basques, who are just fine living under the Spanish king and don't see any real reason to change it.

    Assuming this movie is representative of common sentiment among Spain's many peoples, it seems the nationalist sentiments have mostly died down everywhere except Catalonia. That said, it seems to be true about the UK too (although the 2014 Scottish independence referendum was way too close). I'd agree with saying multiculturalism in both these countries are at about the same level. And while yes, Germany doesn't come close to that - other European countries don't come close to Germany.

    The real multicultural country was Yugoslavia. It was so multicultural it broke apart the first chance it got.


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    @topspin said in Nope, you city it:

    @topspin looks like someone didn't understand that it's a joke. :sadface:

    That's so German of them. :tro-pop:


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    @topspin said in Nope, you city it:

    Black Forest

    [cakes]

    See, this really didn't belong in "Nope, you eat it".


  • Java Dev

    Ah, the fun of names. Gothenburg, the only swedish city with an english name, has whoever invented it confusing two different people, as the city has nothing to do with goths (goter). The swedish name is Göteborg, referring to the old pre-Sweden people who lived in the region: the geats (götar).

    And the wonderful consistency that english uses for our neighbor to the east, where they use the swedish name for the country (Finland) but the finnish name for the capital (Helsinki).


  • Banned

    @Zecc said in Nope, you city it:

    :facepalm: It just hit me Bren is a typo on Bern. Should have been immediately obvious.

    Just for the record - I intended to write Bern, I just mispressed keys.


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    @Atazhaia said in Nope, you city it:

    And the wonderful consistency that english uses for our neighbor to the east, where they use the swedish name for the country (Finland) but the finnish name for the capital (Helsinki).

    I wanted to make a joke how Suomi are the only ones in the whole world who call it Suomi, but instead TIL Finland is Suomija in Lithuanian. Still, almost the entire world calls it Finland so it would be weird if English didn't. Whereas Helsinki is Helsinki everywhere except in Sweden.


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    @Gąska said in Nope, you city it:

    Whereas Helsinki is Helsinki everywhere except in Sweden.

    And Norway. :pendant:


  • Banned

    @Atazhaia as I said, everywhere except Sweden.


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  • @GuyWhoKilledBear said in Nope, you city it:

    The Germans also didn't think it was particularly weird for him to be saying that, given that they elected him Chancellor.

    They didn’t.

    Wikipedia:

    Appointment as chancellor
    The absence of an effective government prompted two influential politicians, Franz von Papen and Alfred Hugenberg, along with several other industrialists and businessmen, to write a letter to Hindenburg. The signers urged Hindenburg to appoint Hitler as leader of a government "independent from parliamentary parties", which could turn into a movement that would "enrapture millions of people".[154][155]

    Hindenburg reluctantly agreed to appoint Hitler as chancellor after two further parliamentary elections – in July and November 1932 – had not resulted in the formation of a majority government. Hitler headed a short-lived coalition government formed by the Nazi Party (which had the most seats in the Reichstag) and Hugenberg's party, the German National People's Party (DNVP). On 30 January 1933, the new cabinet was sworn in during a brief ceremony in Hindenburg's office. The Nazi Party gained three posts: Hitler was named chancellor, Wilhelm Frick Minister of the Interior, and Hermann Göring Minister of the Interior for Prussia.[156] Hitler had insisted on the ministerial positions as a way to gain control over the police in much of Germany.[157]



  • @Gąska said in Nope, you city it:

    1 culture per commonly spoken language in multi-lingual countries (e.g. Netherlands has 2)

    For the record, the Netherlands have 4 official languages.
    And depending on your definition of culture, you could say that we have anywhere from 1 to 17 million cultures in the Netherlands. 2 seems quite arbitrary, and tbh I don't even know which 2 you would mean.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @Gąska said in Nope, you city it:

    Each of the UK's member countries has its own language, traditions, and reasons to hate England.

    I'm English and can confirm that hating England is a thing we do too.


  • Banned

    @nerd4sale said in Nope, you city it:

    @Gąska said in Nope, you city it:

    1 culture per commonly spoken language in multi-lingual countries (e.g. Netherlands has 2)

    For the record, the Netherlands have 4 official languages.

    Wikipedia lied to me! Fixed.



  • @Gąska said in Nope, you city it:

    @nerd4sale said in Nope, you city it:

    @Gąska said in Nope, you city it:

    1 culture per commonly spoken language in multi-lingual countries (e.g. Netherlands has 2)

    For the record, the Netherlands have 4 official languages.

    Wikipedia lied to me! Fixed.

    I included the recognised regional languages.
    But it seems there are more languages I didn't even think of (i.e. English and Papiamento).

    From Wikipedia:
    "The country's official language is Dutch, with West Frisian as a secondary official language in the province of Friesland, and English and Papiamento as secondary official languages in the Caribbean Netherlands.[1] Dutch Low Saxon and Limburgish are recognised regional languages (spoken in the east and southeast respectively), while Dutch Sign Language, Sinte Romani, and Yiddish are recognised non-territorial languages."



  • @topspin said in Nope, you city it:

    Now Schwyzerdütsch, that’s just a lot of made up nonsense pronounced by people with throat cancer.

    I'm in this post and I approve.

    Also TIL "Schnäbichätscher": ist that what the kids call it these days?



  • I’d argue Welsh is borderline there, described as “needing a pint of phlegm in your throat to pronounce”.


  • Java Dev

    @Arantor Speaking of stuffing your mouth full of food in order to properly pronounce the language: Danish.



  • @Atazhaia said in Nope, you city it:

    @Arantor Speaking of stuffing your mouth full of food in order to properly pronounce the language: Danish.

    That may explain Noma.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @nerd4sale said in Nope, you city it:

    @Atazhaia said in Nope, you city it:

    @Arantor Speaking of stuffing your mouth full of food in order to properly pronounce the language: Danish.

    That may explain Noma.

    No, but it does explain the average Danish kro.


  • 🚽 Regular

    @Atazhaia said in Nope, you city it:

    @Arantor Speaking of stuffing your mouth full of food in order to properly pronounce the language: Danish.

    I can think of worse foods to stuff your mouth with than danishes.


  • I survived the hour long Uno hand

    @topspin said in Nope, you city it:

    Nothing that hot can possibly be important.

    Hey, some of us are still trying to find Ms. Right!



  • @ixvedeusi said in Nope, you city it:

    Also TIL "Schnäbichätscher": ist that what the kids call it these days?

    TIL as well. Meme image did say something about "behind the alps". I mean, things are a bit strange over there. 🏆



  • @cvi said in Nope, you city it:

    "behind the alps". I mean, things are a bit strange over there.

    Yeah totally agreed, Italians are weird. 🚎


  • Considered Harmful

    @izzion said in Nope, you city it:

    @topspin said in Nope, you city it:

    Nothing that hot can possibly be important.

    Hey, some of us are still trying to find Ms. Right!

    :um-actually: I take offense to that. I'm literally shaking when I'm reminded what might be considered right for me.

    (they all disappear right when I show up 🐠)



  • @MrL said in Nope, you city it:

    @HardwareGeek said in Nope, you eat it:

    @GuyWhoKilledBear said in Nope, you eat it:

    Europe ... Beijing.

    :frystare:

    It's in Warsaw.

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    Proudly presenting Chuj Stalina (Stalin's dick).


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