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@sloosecannon said in The Official Status Thread:
@Zenith said in The Official Status Thread:
Status: Alright, I have a guess, but anybody else want to make a guess?
I have 4GB or RAM but 32-bit Windows can only see to see 3GB of it. Fine.
Lately I've been seeing it pop up alot of "you're low on memory!1one" dialogs even though it's well under 3GB.
So my guesses are (in order of decreasing likeliness):
- It's crying about my page file being full. I had to limit it to keep Chrome from eating the entire drive with whatever the fuck it's doing. Seriously, a 40GB page file? On a system where most of the software predates Windows 7?
- My RAM chips are going bad.
- What's left of AVG (I swear to God, I shot it, staked it, threw holy water on it, locked it in an iron chest, and buried it under a lake, and I'm still not sure it's dead). is trying to scare me into reinstalling it to check for viruses so it can bring the machine to its knees again.
You have:
3327mb available
807 cached
842 available
38 freeI'm guessing that last number is what it's complaining about.
Is 3GB where Win32 died? I thought that was more often b/c a POS video card was using a GB for the framebuffers.
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@sloosecannon said in The Official Status Thread:
I'm guessing that last number is what it's complaining about.
When it should really be complaining about this number:
Windows 7
@Gribnit said in The Official Status Thread:
Is 3GB where Win32 died?
Jan 2020 is where Windows 7 died.
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@sloosecannon Here's one of the two dialogs.
Occasionally Chrome and Firefox will just silently disappear. The dialogs continue however.Edit: And seriously, when Chrome is taking up 2GB+ across 40+ processes just because, Windows is going to suggesting closing the file explorer?
More: Here's the other dialog...
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@loopback0 said in The Official Status Thread:
Jan 2020 is where Windows 7 died.
There's a possibility they bought the Extended Updates that end in January 2023.
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@Zenith said in The Official Status Thread:
I have 4GB or RAM
It's crying about my page file being full. I had to limit it to keep Chrome from eating the entire drive
You're running Chrome in 4GB of RAM. Brave man!
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@Zenith said in The Official Status Thread:
Occasionally Chrome and Firefox will just silently disappear
That's what happens when
malloc
fails
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@dkf said in The Official Status Thread:
@Zenith said in The Official Status Thread:
I have 4GB or RAM
It's crying about my page file being full. I had to limit it to keep Chrome from eating the entire drive
You're running Chrome in 4GB of RAM. Brave man!
I did everything in my power to keep Chrome from updating to worse versions but that updater (dis)service is even harder to kill than AVG.
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@Zenith Comments about old versions of Windows aside, we had issues with our 2008 R2 servers once the updates ended and they stopped getting regular reboots where the memory would just increase over time for no apparent reason until things broke.
The "fix" was to reboot monthly.
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@loopback0 said in The Official Status Thread:
they stopped getting regular reboots where the memory would just increase over time for no apparent reason until things broke.
Normal Windows behavior
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@TimeBandit said in The Official Status Thread:
@loopback0 said in The Official Status Thread:
they stopped getting regular reboots where the memory would just increase over time for no apparent reason until things broke.
Normal Windows behavior
Wonder how much of the updates was reminders to free stuff.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
@TwelveBaud said in The Official Status Thread:
@Tsaukpaetra I especially shudder at CodeLens calling out
1 reference
for most of them and0 references
for the only one that looked like it had a meaningful body. I foresee a drinking bird doing its bobbing duty over the delete key...Yeah, these static methods are called from a god class that has filtered through a string and hand-parse arguments from it, and done some awkward checks along the way.
For the morbidly curious...
Oh gods, you're dealing with 7D2D server mods...those are nightmare just to USE let alone look at the code of. I've run my fair share of 7 Days servers for friends and keeping one running (especially with mods) is always an excercise in !!fun!!
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@e4tmyl33t said in The Official Status Thread:
Oh gods, you're dealing with 7D2D server mods
This one would be rather simple, if it weren't for the implementation they're going for.
I mean, seriously, their "translations" file is an XML file full of enum numbers!
I have half a mind to re-architect the fucking thing for my sanity, but time and
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@e4tmyl33t said in The Official Status Thread:
I've run my fair share of 7 Days servers for friends and keeping one running (especially with mods) is always an excercise in !!fun!!
Something I discovered is that there's apparently a memory leak, even in unpopulated servers. My current solution is to just check if there's any players every six hours and if not to reboot it. And this is occurring without mods!
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@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
Something I discovered is that there's apparently a memory leak, even in unpopulated servers. My current solution is to just check if there's any players every six hours and if not to reboot it. And this is occurring without mods!
Oh yeah. 7 Days has been in "Early Access Alpha" for...7 years now? Each new major version (A17, A18, A19) introduces entire mechanics changes, replaces graphic engines...They've basically made no less than 3 versions of the whole damn game by this point, and they have no actual timeline for final release. It's fun, but the kind of fun you have to appreciate with other people for when the weird quirky bugs hit, like the weird air we were able to get by hitting each other with the sledge turret right after it was introduced. If you used it as a handheld weapon, and hit another friendly player, they'd take no damage but if you hit them at the right angle they'd still get a rather surprising amount of knockback which sent them flying.
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@sloosecannon said in The Official Status Thread:
@Zenith said in The Official Status Thread:
Occasionally Chrome and Firefox will just silently disappear
That's what happens when
malloc
failsHe’s using a real OS that doesn’t randomly kill processes.
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@sloosecannon said in The Official Status Thread:
@Zenith said in The Official Status Thread:
Status: Alright, I have a guess, but anybody else want to make a guess?
I have 4GB or RAM but 32-bit Windows can only see to see 3GB of it. Fine.
Lately I've been seeing it pop up alot of "you're low on memory!1one" dialogs even though it's well under 3GB.
So my guesses are (in order of decreasing likeliness):
- It's crying about my page file being full. I had to limit it to keep Chrome from eating the entire drive with whatever the fuck it's doing. Seriously, a 40GB page file? On a system where most of the software predates Windows 7?
- My RAM chips are going bad.
- What's left of AVG (I swear to God, I shot it, staked it, threw holy water on it, locked it in an iron chest, and buried it under a lake, and I'm still not sure it's dead). is trying to scare me into reinstalling it to check for viruses so it can bring the machine to its knees again.
You have:
3327mb available
807 cached
842 available
38 freeI'm guessing that last number is what it's complaining about.
The cache can be purged if necessary, the relevant number is 842 available.
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@topspin said in The Official Status Thread:
@sloosecannon said in The Official Status Thread:
@Zenith said in The Official Status Thread:
Status: Alright, I have a guess, but anybody else want to make a guess?
I have 4GB or RAM but 32-bit Windows can only see to see 3GB of it. Fine.
Lately I've been seeing it pop up alot of "you're low on memory!1one" dialogs even though it's well under 3GB.
So my guesses are (in order of decreasing likeliness):
- It's crying about my page file being full. I had to limit it to keep Chrome from eating the entire drive with whatever the fuck it's doing. Seriously, a 40GB page file? On a system where most of the software predates Windows 7?
- My RAM chips are going bad.
- What's left of AVG (I swear to God, I shot it, staked it, threw holy water on it, locked it in an iron chest, and buried it under a lake, and I'm still not sure it's dead). is trying to scare me into reinstalling it to check for viruses so it can bring the machine to its knees again.
You have:
3327mb available
807 cached
842 available
38 freeI'm guessing that last number is what it's complaining about.
The cache can be purged if necessary, the relevant number is 842 available.
Sure, but I'm assuming the "you're almost out of RAM" message comes from only having 38mb free
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@sloosecannon The 38MB is pages that have been already zeroed and are ready for assignment. Windows won't warn about that; it'll freak out about the 842MB available (no longer allocated, but still has data from disk in them) running low; although it takes some time, it's happy zeroing them on demand.
@Zenith I'm willing to bet money it's the pagefile. There's less than 302MB to go before it's out out of space, and it's 95% full. I'm not surprised Windows starts getting concerned.
If you want to free up 768MB of RAM, get an older video card. I hear the Radeon X1300-series is a nice vintage.
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@TwelveBaud Already running an ATI Radeon HD 5450 with 1GB of memory.
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@Zenith said in The Official Status Thread:
with 1GB of memory.
That's why you only have 3GB accessible. The remaining 1GB was pushed above the 32-bit boundary to make room for the video card's memory. You're not running a server SKU, and even if you were I doubt you're running PAE-aware software like SQL Server, so it's Lost Forever.
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@TwelveBaud OK, now I think I understand what you're saying.
Research suggests SQL 2000 does support PAE but it almost certainly isn't configured to do so unless that was the default. It was a fight just to get it installed.
Reality is I need to buck up and reinstall everything on the new PC I have sitting in a box even if it means suffering Windows 10.
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@Zenith why not try another browser? Chrome is a known memory hog, and certainly 3GB is too low.
Vivaldi, even if based on Chrome / Chromium is much well behaved, by example.
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@cabrito I installed Brave which worked for few weeks but then started to act just like Chrome. I installed Palemoon because I didn't want a newer Firefox to stomp all over an older version I used for some stuff and it wasn't supported by anything.
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@Zenith Leaving aside that SQL 2000 support ended on my 25th birthday and I'm definitely not 25 anymore...
If you're using SQL Enterprise or SQL Developer Edition, and you're running Windows 2008 Server or higher, or you're running on Windows 2000 Advanced Server or Windows Server 2003 Enterprise and set the right boot option, SQL will use the extra RAM. Since you're on Windows 7, licensing forbids it.
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@Zenith said in The Official Status Thread:
I installed Brave which worked for few weeks but then started to act just like Chrome.
The core problem is the modern web is pretty terrible in terms of being a resource hog. Fixing it basically requires dropping/disabling support for both CSS and Javascript. Which no modern browser lets you do.
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@dkf said in The Official Status Thread:
@Zenith said in The Official Status Thread:
I installed Brave which worked for few weeks but then started to act just like Chrome.
The core problem is the modern web is pretty terrible in terms of being a resource hog. Fixing it basically requires dropping/disabling support for both CSS and Javascript. Which no modern browser lets you do.
One of the problems with running the web on an ad supported model. It would kill the web immediately. Also the everything is an api and mircoservice guys would be would out of a job immediately.
In a prior life management had to prompt developers to debug issues on prod with adblock off to see the issue half the time. Moving to a subscription model would solve a lot of problems.
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status I'm beginning to see emails from companies that have VC money but are looking to crowdsource extra money. Has VC money began to dry up? Are VC firms calling in their debts?
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@DogsB said in The Official Status Thread:
status I'm beginning to see emails from companies that have VC money but are looking to crowdsource extra money. Has VC money began to dry up? Are VC firms calling in their debts?
Lost it all on Gamestop stocks and (thanks to Elon) Bitcoin
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@loopback0 ITYM Doge
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I think @PotatoEngineer should stop posting. He's at 666 posts. Just start again with a new account.
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@DogsB said in The Official Status Thread:
I think @PotatoEngineer should stop posting. He's at 666 posts. Just start again with a new account.
I'd have to go and get re-admitted to the Trolleybus Garage, and Lounge, and it would just be so much work.
(On a funny tangent: my wife's phone number has 666 in it. We're thrilled. Or at least mildly amused.)
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Status: Filled with rage that I dug out my 2DS only to find that Excitebike isn't available. They have a version with some dumb 3D effects bolted on but it's only for the 3DS which, other than the dumb 3D effect on the screen, is the same hardware.
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Was listening to a recent Sabaton song. It's in Swedish, so I'm not sure exactly what it's saying. However, the distracting thing is that the tune is familiar to me (in a much more sedate arrangement). Where do I know it from? It's the tune used in a couple of relatively common hymns in our church hymnal. Always causes a moment's dissonance.
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In other music statuses: this song makes me smile.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in The Official Status Thread:
Was listening to a recent Sabaton song. It's in Swedish, so I'm not sure exactly what it's saying. However, the distracting thing is that the tune is familiar to me (in a much more sedate arrangement). Where do I know it from? It's the tune used in a couple of relatively common hymns in our church hymnal. Always causes a moment's dissonance.
Which song is it? Maybe someone can identify the source.
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@Zerosquare said in The Official Status Thread:
@Benjamin-Hall said in The Official Status Thread:
Was listening to a recent Sabaton song. It's in Swedish, so I'm not sure exactly what it's saying. However, the distracting thing is that the tune is familiar to me (in a much more sedate arrangement). Where do I know it from? It's the tune used in a couple of relatively common hymns in our church hymnal. Always causes a moment's dissonance.
Which song is it? Maybe someone can identify the source.
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The choir melody from the song bears resemblance to a Christian hymn "Fairest Lord Jesus", also known as "Beautiful Savior". In Sweden, the same melody is also used in Psalm 297 - "Härlig är jorden" ("Lovely is the Earth").
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@Zerosquare said in The Official Status Thread:
The choir melody from the song bears resemblance to a Christian hymn "Fairest Lord Jesus", also known as "Beautiful Savior". In Sweden, the same melody is also used in Psalm 297 - "Härlig är jorden" ("Lovely is the Earth").
That's it. I know it as "Beautiful Savior". If it's not identical, it's very very similar.
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@DogsB said in The Official Status Thread:
@dkf said in The Official Status Thread:
@Zenith said in The Official Status Thread:
I installed Brave which worked for few weeks but then started to act just like Chrome.
The core problem is the modern web is pretty terrible in terms of being a resource hog. Fixing it basically requires dropping/disabling support for both CSS and Javascript. Which no modern browser lets you do.
One of the problems with running the web on an ad supported model. It would kill the web immediately. Also the everything is an api and mircoservice guys would be would out of a job immediately.
Great idea!
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@Benjamin-Hall said in The Official Status Thread:
@Zerosquare said in The Official Status Thread:
The choir melody from the song bears resemblance to a Christian hymn "Fairest Lord Jesus", also known as "Beautiful Savior". In Sweden, the same melody is also used in Psalm 297 - "Härlig är jorden" ("Lovely is the Earth").
That's it. I know it as "Beautiful Savior". If it's not identical, it's very very similar.
Also, if you
didn't click the link for more information, they have an English version called "The Royal Guard":
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@hungrier said in The Official Status Thread:
@Benjamin-Hall said in The Official Status Thread:
@Zerosquare said in The Official Status Thread:
The choir melody from the song bears resemblance to a Christian hymn "Fairest Lord Jesus", also known as "Beautiful Savior". In Sweden, the same melody is also used in Psalm 297 - "Härlig är jorden" ("Lovely is the Earth").
That's it. I know it as "Beautiful Savior". If it's not identical, it's very very similar.
Also, if you
didn't click the link for more information, they have an English version called "The Royal Guard":
Yeah. It was the swedish version I was listening to (due to random youtube mixes), but you're correct.
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@Gąska said in The Official Status Thread:
@BernieTheBernie said in The Official Status Thread:
@kazitor said in The Official Status Thread:
@loopback0 said in The Official Status Thread:
exactly 3.785411784 litres
Okay, but Bernie was talking about “liters”.
Are there also differences between metric liters, imperial litres, U.S. litres, U.S. dry litres, Canadian litres, ...?
Fun fact: to avoid confusion, fuel pumps in Poland use cubic decimeters.
That looks more like deci-cubicmeters instead of cubic decimeters...
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status: thank you, developers of 7 days to die, for not obfuscating your game code. I think (hope) I am now calling the party creation function correctly now.
Now I just need friends to test with...
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@Gąska said in The Official Status Thread:
@BernieTheBernie said in The Official Status Thread:
@kazitor said in The Official Status Thread:
@loopback0 said in The Official Status Thread:
exactly 3.785411784 litres
Okay, but Bernie was talking about “liters”.
Are there also differences between metric liters, imperial litres, U.S. litres, U.S. dry litres, Canadian litres, ...?
Fun fact: to avoid confusion, fuel pumps in Poland use cubic decimeters.
Fun fact 2: in polish slang 'liter' means 'a litre of vodka'. To surprise of exactly no one.
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@HardwareGeek said in The Official Status Thread:
Status: Someone is spending way too much free time necro-upvoting.
Status: I'M BĒĒĒCK!
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So how y'all been doing, anyway?
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@error UnAmerican
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@error said in The Official Status Thread:
188.6lbs
healthy or eating disorder
Filed under: For reference, last June I was 260lbs
My tactic of starvation isn't working very well. But the food bill is a little nicer at least...
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in The Official Status Thread:
@HardwareGeek said in The Official Status Thread:
Status: Someone is spending way too much free time necro-upvoting.
Status: I'M BĒĒĒCK!
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So how y'all been doing, anyway?
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@BernieTheBernie said in The Official Status Thread:
That looks more like deci-cubicmeters instead of cubic decimeters...
Prefixes have priority over exponents. So, no.