Go to bed
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New Samsung phone, new "fun" feature. To be completely honest - I don't know if Samsung is the author or Google, but only Samsung is capable of creating something that stupid, so I bet on them. I present you a "go to bed alarm". What's wrong about it?
- I don't know how smooth a person's brain must be to think an alarm is a great reminder for going to bed.
- To annoy users, let's have the clock app run an ad for this. By ad I mean suddenly sound the actual alarm with the feature description.
- Of course, Samsung being Samsung, let's fuck even this up and run it at 10:00. That's 10am in freedom units. Because people usually go to bed at 10:00.
FFS...
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I assume you weren't actively using the phone when that happened?
Meaning this thing has the potential of awakening people who would otherwise be falling asleep?
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Apple does have a similar feature, at least if you have an Apple Watch to track your health where if you set your normal sleeping hours it will make a noise 30 mins before your set bedtime as a "wind down" reminder. But, it only plays the sound once. It is (by default) a 3-note jingle that people associate with going to bed. And it wont keep whining about you not going to bed if you don't.
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@Zecc the phone was simply lying on a desk, enjoying its day.
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Apple does have a similar feature, at least if you have an Apple Watch to track your health where if you set your normal sleeping hours it will make a noise 30 mins before your set bedtime as a "wind down" reminder. But, it only plays the sound once. It is (by default) a 3-note jingle that people associate with going to bed. And it wont keep whining about you not going to bed if you don't.
It also has an alarm mode that works without a Watch, and is more like an alarm.
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@Atazhaia here you have a full-blown nuclear explosion alarm.
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@NeighborhoodButcher Who the fuck thought that was a good idea for a "Go to bed" reminder? What if I ended up extra tired and went to bed 30 minutes earlier than usual, instantly falling asleep, only to be woken up by the bedtime reminder?
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What if I ended up extra tired and went to bed 30 minutes earlier than usual, instantly falling asleep, only to be woken up by the bedtime reminder?
If I'm that tired, you could play the 1812 Overture in my bedroom, including a full complement of cannons, and still not wake me up.
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play the 1812 Overture in my bedroom, including a full complement of cannons
I see you’ve met my neighbors.
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@NeighborhoodButcher said in Go to bed:
Because people usually go to bed at 10:00.
Considering this week's track record, even if it were 22:00, that'd still be like 5 hours early.
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It could be worse, I guess? I assume they didn't use this as the alarm sound: Go to Bed
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@NeighborhoodButcher said in Go to bed:
I don't know how smooth a person's brain must be to think an alarm is a great reminder for going to bed.
in my experience, an alarm is a great reminder for anything time-bound/time-sensitive.
i don't know how smooth a person's brain must be to think that alarm can only be used for the "wake up" alarm in the morning.
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@sh_code hint: people fall asleep faster when they're relaxed. Having a horn suddenly blow in the middle of the night isn't exactly relaxing.
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@NeighborhoodButcher said in Go to bed:
... "go to bed ...
FFS...You were right. I should have done this sooner. Getting back out sucked, though.
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@NeighborhoodButcher said in Go to bed:
@sh_code hint: people fall asleep faster when they're relaxed. Having a horn suddenly blow in the middle of the night isn't exactly relaxing.
what if it's the horn on the ferry, that blows that time every night and has since you were a child, reminding you that the link to the mainland is still viable and the island can continue to be inhabited?
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@Gribnit you were in the focus group, weren't you?
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@NeighborhoodButcher said in Go to bed:
@Gribnit you were in the focus group, weren't you?
every one that'll have me!
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@NeighborhoodButcher said in Go to bed:
@sh_code hint: people fall asleep faster when they're relaxed. Having a horn suddenly blow in the middle of the night isn't exactly relaxing.
You're allowed to change the sound of the alarm to something less ... raucous, I would have thought. (Certainly possible on iThings, and the default sound lacks raucousness.
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Stock Android has a bedtime feature, but it's off by default and only changes the display to monochrome and puts it in do not disturb mode. Oh, 15 minutes before it pops up a notification saying "it's almost bedtime", but that's silent.
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@Steve_The_Cynic looking at how it's implemented, I bet it uses the main alarm volume, which tends to be as high as possible.
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@NeighborhoodButcher said in Go to bed:
- Of course, Samsung being Samsung, let's fuck even this up and run it at 10:00. That's 10am in freedom units. Because people usually go to bed at 10:00.
I have a plausible explanation: 10am EDT = 11pm KST
So, maybe you just use wrong time zone.
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@Kamil-Podlesak well, when I was working there, they did tell me using any language other than Korean is wrong...
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@NeighborhoodButcher said in Go to bed:
@Kamil-Podlesak well, when I was working there, they did tell me using any language other than Korean is wrong...
아직 배우지 않았어, 둥근 눈
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@Gribnit 그러니 배워라 야만인
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@NeighborhoodButcher said in Go to bed:
@Gribnit you were in the focus group, weren't you?
Pictured: the focus group
Also goddamnit, I'm pretty sure the original thread was something like "Mozilla's smartest user", but of course it is impossible to search for anything.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in Go to bed:
Stock Android has a bedtime feature, but it's off by default and only changes the display to monochrome and puts it in do not disturb mode. Oh, 15 minutes before it pops up a notification saying "it's almost bedtime", but that's silent.
Yeah, my several-major-versions-out-of-date Android has that. But I've never used it, so I don't know what it does.
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I'm pretty sure the original thread was something like "Mozilla's smartest user"
I seem to recall it was "most advanced" user.
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@NeighborhoodButcher said in Go to bed:
@Gribnit you were in the focus group, weren't you?
Pictured: the focus group
Also goddamnit, I'm pretty sure the original thread was something like "Mozilla's smartest user", but of course it is impossible to search for anything.
@HardwareGeek said in Go to bed:
I'm pretty sure the original thread was something like "Mozilla's smartest user"
I seem to recall it was "most advanced" user.
Lorne saved the presentation too, see slide 13.
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It could be worse, I guess? I assume they didn't use this as the alarm sound: Go to Bed
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@NeighborhoodButcher said in Go to bed:
New Samsung phone, new "fun" feature. To be completely honest - I don't know if Samsung is the author or Google, but only Samsung is capable of creating something that stupid, so I bet on them. I present you a "go to bed alarm". What's wrong about it?
- Of course, Samsung being Samsung, let's fuck even this up and run it at 10:00. That's 10am in freedom units. Because people usually go to bed at 10:00.
Why would I set up the "hey, wind down" alarm at a time I'm already winding down? If anything, the local-time late evening would be the worst time ever for it. 10am local is frankly a pretty safe bet for a "most people will be awake now" time on a weekday, so if you have already convinced yourself you need an once-off alert to let people setup the feature, this is a better time than many.
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@boomzilla said in Go to bed:
It could be worse, I guess? I assume they didn't use this as the alarm sound: Go to Bed
I'm pretty sure this worked a few times for my daughter.
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y'know, I feel like this advice is less useful at this time than when it was written.
