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@da-Doctah said in In other news today...:
@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
Finally, something good happened in 2020.
Oh, wait. It won't actually be available until 2022.
Chitty Chitty Bang Bang came out in 1968.
The originals came out in the early 1920
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
TIL that tv series was mocking a real new military branch
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The Linux kernel was ported to the Nintendo 64
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
@Tsaukpaetra Furries don't deserve human rights, either.
Well they identify as animals so legally they're sub human scum.
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It's a Chrismukkah miracle!
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Geeknetic.es made this as a part of the Spanish Fool's Day, which is December 28th. However, considering the current state of the RTX (and AMD RX) market, this is a nice satirical gotcha which I'll keep on TPU. Let's laugh at our misery instead of wallowing in it.
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@HardwareGeek Oops
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@loopback0 TIL there's a Spanish Fool's Day and it's on December 28th.
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@loopback0 TBF, they didn't exactly make that easy to notice — small, low-contrast gray text.
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@HardwareGeek Quite, and as it's not a satire site and today isn't in early April I wasn't on the lookout for such a thing.
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@TimeBandit As long as they're not using it with the butterfly switches!
This is probably just another instance of something being patented to stop other companies doing it. A bit of good old competition that in no way highlights issues with the patent system.
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@loopback0 Just typical innovation, because of course Apple does everything first:
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@JBert That's a keyboard not an electronic device with keys. Totally different.
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@JBert said in In other news today...:
@loopback0 Just typical innovation, because of course Apple does everything first:
As it turns out, the patent on that one is expired. But I guess the new Apple one would have to be different enough to be patentable itself, right? The USPTO isn't completely incompetent?
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@hungrier said in In other news today...:
The USPTO isn't completely incompetent?
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@TimeBandit said in In other news today...:
@hungrier said in In other news today...:
The USPTO isn't completely incompetent?
Hey, they granted me a patent, so, um...
Edit: I assumed my patent expired several years ago, and it did, because <rant>unlike copyrights, patents have reasonable durations that balance the interests of the inventor (or the inventor's employer, in most cases) to make money from his/her/their invention and the ability of future inventors to make use of and improve on the invention, rather than placing a stranglehold on future use for 100 years or more in some cases.</rant> However, TIL that it has been cited (presumably as prior art) in 10 other patents and one other-company product data sheet.
Edit 2: Also TIL (or noticed, anyway) that it was granted on my grandmother's 115th birthday. (She wasn't around to celebrate either event, of course; she had been dead almost 20 years.) Not that I celebrated the patent, anyway. I no longer worked for the employer for which I had invented the thing, and was not notified of the grant (and missed out on the employer's patent bonus); I only learned that it had been granted when I stumbled across it on the internet a few years later.
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@hungrier said in In other news today...:
I guess the new Apple one would have to be different enough to be patentable itself, right?
That doesn't need to be very different at all. Depending on the diligence of the examiner, the difference may be insignificant.
Also, overlapping claims. The first patent almost certainly puts for some very broad claims for the invention, as well as much more specific ones. (E.g., a claim for a specific keyboard feature probably includes claims for the entire idea of using fingers to press on keys, as well as eleventy-seven more specific claims, gradually narrowing the focus to the specific new feature.) The second patent will also include all those overly broad claims, as well as the ones specific to its improvement. And both will be granted, with the overlapping/conflicting claims. And lawyers will get rich asking the courts to resolve the overlapping/conflicting claims that should never have been granted in the first place. The examiner should have just said, "Ha ha, no. You get a patent on claims 37, 38 and 39; they're the only ones that are original. Claims 1 – 36 are all prior art, and are denied."
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
The examiner should have just said, "Ha ha, no.
You get a patent on claims 37, 38 and 39; they're the only ones that are original. Claims 1 – 36 are all prior art, and aredenied."
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@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
The examiner should have just said, "Ha ha, no.
You get a patent on claims 37, 38 and 39; they're the only ones that are original. Claims 1 – 36 are all prior art, and aredenied."I feel like I should start randomly filing patents for shit. Not sure what’s worse, that I don’t see how the whole invention isn’t completely obvious or that it already exists.
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@topspin We are urged (at work) to indicate when we did something that might be patentable. I'm in Europe, I work exclusively on software, and software isn't patentable here. Though I would probably still get a bonus for a US software patent.
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The hanged man caught on video still causes financial damage, allegedly.
I haven't seen the actual video, but I'm going to assume that it's the only one of this tuber's films that had any educational value whatsoever.
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@PleegWat I'll have to start documenting our products' features in more detail, then. Just in case one of our competitors copies us and then files a patent. It'd serve as a sample of Prior Art.
Could I start patenting badly documented features of other companies' software...?
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German chancellor Merkel told us that "the internet is a new land for us". Elsewhere I showed you a cartoon of a German bank at their first video conference. But meanwhile, also Brexitania (UK) got infected:
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@BernieTheBernie 'd at least twice
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@Carnage said in In other news today...:
Didn't Optimus do that a decade ago?
They even already had the Appletastic price tag back then.
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
I no longer worked for the employer for which I had invented the thing
I think the patent I'm on was also granted after I left the company. One of those dumb software ones that is now obsolete and can't even work anymore. Makes for a resume bullet point...
I only learned that it had been granted when I stumbled across it on the internet a few years later.
If I remember right, I got a big thick legal package from USPS.
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@PleegWat said in In other news today...:
@topspin We are urged (at work) to indicate when we did something that might be patentable. I'm in Europe, I work exclusively on software, and software isn't patentable here. Though I would probably still get a bonus for a US software patent.
I don’t think I’ve ever done anything worth patenting in a reasonable world. However, seeing all those dumb-fuck patents that get accepted I should probably have several.
Heck, my first patent should’ve probably been as a teenager when they had these “disc-mans” (mobile CD player successor of Sony’s Walkman) and I thought “why don’t you make these support playing mp3 files”, long before they did support that. Obvious enough for a teenager, but a non-obvious novel invention for a patent examiner.
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@PleegWat said in In other news today...:
software isn't patentable here
I believe it is… but the obviousness-test bar is really high.
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@dcon said in In other news today...:
Makes for a resume bullet point...
Yup. That's the only value it has any more, although the process of applying for the patent was educational.
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
I don’t think I’ve ever done anything worth patenting in a reasonable world. However, seeing all those dumb-fuck patents that get accepted I should probably have several.
At a later employer, I made some stuff that probably should have been patented, but I didn't think of it until it was too late. Probably. I think the rule is that the patent must be applied for before the product is actually offered for sale, and I think maybe we barely complied with that on the first one (applied after the product was announced but before it actually available, maybe; I know it was close). I'm fairly sure the inventions at the later company were already being sold before I thought, "I should have filed an invention disclosure (internal company document starting the patent application process) on that."
Nowadays, I just test stuff other people invent. Not much chance of ever creating anything patentable again. In theory, I could, maybe, invent a better way of testing stuff, but even if I do, 99% chance it'd just be improving the scripting of some internal process, not anything that would have value beyond, maybe, keeping it company-confidential.
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
the process of applying for the patent was educational.
"There's got to be a better way!"
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@boomzilla Well, they're half-right. Movement/sports makes you more healthy.
If you want to lose weight change your diet.
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@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
If you want to lose weight change your diet.
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Who had "attack of the squirrels" on their 2020 bingo card?
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Poor guys
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The man was lucky to get to the beacon, but his tactics for getting rescued might not have been the best:
Simpson was spotted by a rescue helicopter after about three hours of trying to flag down other boats. He said he took off his shorts to use them as a flag, but was unable to get any attention until the helicopter showed up.
"Maybe that's why nobody stopped, because I was naked," he said.
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
Who had "attack of the squirrels" on their 2020 bingo card?
Did Blasio train them? "We'll keep those miscreants locked up however we can!"
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@JBert said in In other news today...:
If we see them named "Kings Hawaiian style rools" we'll know why...
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@izzion said in In other news today...:
5 toxically masculine teens
Is this some kind of garage bait shit or what?