Tinder is shit
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So many questions! Aside from the strong odor of snake oil here, socializing isn't really something that can really be taught - it entails navigating a great many gray areas and is a skill that has to be practiced and refined. Also, 100 dates in a year as an ostensibly attractive female means little to the average guy who might be lucky to get one or two per year. Pull those numbers using a picture from /r/braincels and then we might have something worth talking about.
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@Groaner said in Tinder is shit:
So many questions! Aside from the strong odor of snake oil here, socializing isn't really something that can really be taught - it entails navigating a great many gray areas and is a skill that has to be practiced and refined. Also, 100 dates in a year as an ostensibly attractive female means little to the average guy who might be lucky to get one or two per year. Pull those numbers using a picture from /r/braincels and then we might have something worth talking about.
I'd say you can learn to maneuver social contexts, from my personal experience. I still think normies are fucking retarded in how they interact, but I do know how it's done, and I can replicate and project a fitting air when necessary.
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@hungrier said in Tinder is shit:
I was voted Prom Queen at my office
Is that a thing?
At her office? Apparently. I'm surprised that someone who's so proud of being promoted eight times managed to not push away enough people to still gain a healthy plurality of the votes.
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@Groaner they might've been horizontal promotions.
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@boomzilla said in Tinder is shit:
@Groaner said in Tinder is shit:
100 dates in a year
Sounds exhausting. Does she work as an escort?
That sounds more like someone dating for free dinners.
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@Carnage said in Tinder is shit:
@boomzilla said in Tinder is shit:
@Groaner said in Tinder is shit:
100 dates in a year
Sounds exhausting. Does she work as an escort?
That sounds more like someone dating for free dinners.
Also, yes. I wonder how many were repeats vs new people / first dates.
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@boomzilla said in Tinder is shit:
@Carnage said in Tinder is shit:
@boomzilla said in Tinder is shit:
@Groaner said in Tinder is shit:
100 dates in a year
Sounds exhausting. Does she work as an escort?
That sounds more like someone dating for free dinners.
Also, yes. I wonder how many were repeats vs new people / first dates.
Speaking of, I had a woman approach me on one dating app I'm on, not tinder and slightly less retarded. She opened with some vague thing about good looks, and asked if I could buy her dinner. Since I like honesty, I said yes and asked her if she had any wishes for where or what. She gave me a whole spiel about how she didn't care and that it was the guys responsibility, so I offered to take her to a restaurant in the north parts of Stockholm. She replied that it's way too far for her to go there. NEvermind that its like 20 meters from a station for the commuter trains. And her specifically saying that it didn't matter where or what.
She then said she wanted something fancier.
Well, I booked a table for 1 in a really fancy restaurant in the central parts of Stockholm and gave her the time.
Never heard from her again.I mean, I knew it'd just be a free lunch for her, and that'd been perfectly fine for me. I was bored and I like meeting new people and it'd have to be a really fucking expensive dinner for me to have any financial qualms about it. But when she started getting picky with what she'd be given. Fuck it. If she'd been upfront about her requirements, again, no problem. But being dishonest and trying to raise the stakes once you've got someone hooked? Nope. Not gonna fly.
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@Gąska said in Tinder is shit:
@Carnage grammar tip: either
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Yeah, I accidentally a word there. My ravings are definitely getting sloppier.
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@Carnage said in Tinder is shit:
I mean, I knew it'd just be a free lunch for her, and that'd been perfectly fine for me.
AFAIK, you're not desperate for attention, so why are you encouraging freeloaders?
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@Carnage said in Tinder is shit:
Well, I booked a table for 1 in a really fancy restaurant in the central parts of Stockholm and gave her the time.
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@Zerosquare said in Tinder is shit:
@Carnage said in Tinder is shit:
I mean, I knew it'd just be a free lunch for her, and that'd been perfectly fine for me.
AFAIK, you're not desperate for attention, so why are you encouraging freeloaders?
Male biology.
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@Zerosquare said in Tinder is shit:
@Carnage said in Tinder is shit:
I mean, I knew it'd just be a free lunch for her, and that'd been perfectly fine for me.
AFAIK, you're not desperate for attention, so why are you encouraging freeloaders?
Like I said, I like meeting new people. I don't particularly care of I have to pay for a dinner. I don't like dishonesty though.
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@Carnage said in Tinder is shit:
Like I said, I like meeting new people. I don't particularly care of I have to pay for a dinner.
Nothing wrong with that.
@Carnage said in Tinder is shit:
I don't like dishonesty though.
Honest people tend not to demand a free dinner, especially as a first move. So I don't know what you expected in the first place...
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@Zerosquare said in Tinder is shit:
@Carnage said in Tinder is shit:
Like I said, I like meeting new people. I don't particularly care of I have to pay for a dinner.
Nothing wrong with that.
@Carnage said in Tinder is shit:
I don't like dishonesty though.
Honest people tend not to demand a free dinner, especially as a first move. So I don't know what you expected in the first place...
Being upfront about wanting a dinner is more honest than beating about the bush calling it a date.
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Sure. But then, what's the point of meeting someone who's only interested in getting a free dinner in the first place?
I'm not judging. I just don't understand the logic.
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@Carnage Had a similar experience too, once. When it came to arranging a location (she was in the northern part of Hamburg, I'm in the south) I picked a location halfway between. Also near a major metro station.
She complained that she'd have to "travel so far" and that I should pick something more near her. Actual time needed: 30 minutes.
Nevermind that now I'd be the one who suddenly was supposed to travel twice the distance. Yeah. Didn't work very well.
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@Carnage it’s kind of interesting to see (though not in a good way) that the ratio of women to men successfully getting dates is so high that people actually just use it to get a free dinner every day.
Almost glad I just pay my own stuff. I mean, not getting any dates, but at least not paying for it.
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@Carnage said in Tinder is shit:
She gave me a whole spiel about how she didn't care and that it was the guys responsibility
It's always our responsibility. The question is, what are the lady's responsibilities? Nobody ever talks about those!
I drove out of state once to meet a lady I knew online, and she insisted on paying for dinner. So I have little patience for this kind of entitlement, particularly when said person is being considered for a position involving "sickness and health, better or worse, richer or poorer," etc.
She then said she wanted something fancier.
Well, I booked a table for 1 in a really fancy restaurant in the central parts of Stockholm and gave her the time.
Never heard from her again.I mean, I knew it'd just be a free lunch for her, and that'd been perfectly fine for me. I was bored and I like meeting new people and it'd have to be a really fucking expensive dinner for me to have any financial qualms about it. But when she started getting picky with what she'd be given. Fuck it. If she'd been upfront about her requirements, again, no problem. But being dishonest and trying to raise the stakes once you've got someone hooked? Nope. Not gonna fly.
It's almost like she has some validation fetish for getting guys to book a dinner over her.
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@dcon said in Tinder is shit:
@Carnage said in Tinder is shit:
Well, I booked a table for 1 in a really fancy restaurant in the central parts of Stockholm and gave her the time.
If you can't handle Texas Roadhouse or Longhorn, you can't handle me.
I've spent $150 on myself at top-tier places like Ruth's Chris and found it to be no better than Texas Roadhouse or Longhorn. So it's obviously not about the food.
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@Carnage said in Tinder is shit:
@Zerosquare said in Tinder is shit:
@Carnage said in Tinder is shit:
I mean, I knew it'd just be a free lunch for her, and that'd been perfectly fine for me.
AFAIK, you're not desperate for attention, so why are you encouraging freeloaders?
Like I said, I like meeting new people. I don't particularly care of I have to pay for a dinner. I don't like dishonesty though.
Then you would probably be better served going to meetup.com. That also has the benefit of being a low-stakes, organic situation instead of a high-stakes matchmaking scenario.
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@Rhywden said in Tinder is shit:
@Carnage Had a similar experience too, once. When it came to arranging a location (she was in the northern part of Hamburg, I'm in the south) I picked a location halfway between. Also near a major metro station.
She complained that she'd have to "travel so far" and that I should pick something more near her. Actual time needed: 30 minutes.
Nevermind that now I'd be the one who suddenly was supposed to travel twice the distance. Yeah. Didn't work very well.
"If you can't meet me halfway for a date, you won't meet me halfway for a relationship/marriage/etc."
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@topspin said in Tinder is shit:
@Carnage it’s kind of interesting to see (though not in a good way) that the ratio of women to men successfully getting dates is so high that people actually just use it to get a free dinner every day.
The rebuttal/complaint I keep hearing from the other side of the aisle is, "Yeah, so what if we can get dates whenever we want? You men can get long-term relationships much easier than we can!"
Almost glad I just pay my own stuff. I mean, not getting any dates, but at least not paying for it.
The rules of thumb I've heard involve going no further than coffee for a first date, or "one drink and one hour of your time" at bars. Given the present exploitative climate, I think that only makes sense. There might indeed be a princess out there who is worth a dinner date, but she has to earn it first.
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Someone said:
"Yeah, so what if we can get dates whenever we want? You men can get long-term relationships much easier than we can!"
TDEMSYR!
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@Groaner said in Tinder is shit:
@dcon said in Tinder is shit:
@Carnage said in Tinder is shit:
Well, I booked a table for 1 in a really fancy restaurant in the central parts of Stockholm and gave her the time.
If you can't handle Texas Roadhouse or Longhorn, you can't handle me.
I've spent $150 on myself at top-tier places like Ruth's Chris and found it to be no better than Texas Roadhouse or Longhorn. So it's obviously not about the food.
Well, I can't speak about those particular establishments but I've found that some markup is okay when it comes with an increase in service - one restaurant near me is quite nice but the maximum I expect to pay there is about 50€ per person - that's including drinks, digestif and dessert.
In contrast, when my uncle and aunt once visited me here, they insisted on going to this fusion (Jamaican - Japanese?) restaurant in their hotel. Well, I found it terribly pretentious but they were the ones paying (and they've got the money). We three spent 300€ this evening and were still hungry afterwards. I also wasn't impressed and I myself would have gone to a different Sushi establishment nearby - which is also upperclass but would have been considerably cheaper.
Generally, though, disregarding the prices, I found that the better restaurants have a limited menu. Maybe a maximum of one or two pages.
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@Groaner said in Tinder is shit:
@Carnage said in Tinder is shit:
@Zerosquare said in Tinder is shit:
@Carnage said in Tinder is shit:
I mean, I knew it'd just be a free lunch for her, and that'd been perfectly fine for me.
AFAIK, you're not desperate for attention, so why are you encouraging freeloaders?
Like I said, I like meeting new people. I don't particularly care of I have to pay for a dinner. I don't like dishonesty though.
Then you would probably be better served going to meetup.com. That also has the benefit of being a low-stakes, organic situation instead of a high-stakes matchmaking scenario.
Meetup is full of complete retards in sweden. And an interesting opportunity presented itself. I don't give a flying fuck if it came on tinder, milk cartons or hindenburg, I take chances on doing new stuff.
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@Groaner said in Tinder is shit:
@topspin said in Tinder is shit:
@Carnage it’s kind of interesting to see (though not in a good way) that the ratio of women to men successfully getting dates is so high that people actually just use it to get a free dinner every day.
The rebuttal/complaint I keep hearing from the other side of the aisle is, "Yeah, so what if we can get dates whenever we want? You men can get long-term relationships much easier than we can!"
Ẅhich is plain wrong. I've always found it stupid easy to get laid, but I'm dead on the long term relationship market.
Almost glad I just pay my own stuff. I mean, not getting any dates, but at least not paying for it.
The rules of thumb I've heard involve going no further than coffee for a first date, or "one drink and one hour of your time" at bars. Given the present exploitative climate, I think that only makes sense. There might indeed be a princess out there who is worth a dinner date, but she has to earn it first.
Eh, I can buy dinner for a bloke I met at a race track without having any intent of boning him, or ever seeing him again. I like meeting people, and a dinner isn't particularly expensive.
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There's a fundamental difference between "this guy/girl I met seems interesting, I wouldn't mind buying them dinner" and "this guy/girl is expecting for a free dinner, let's meet them to find out if (s)he's interesting.".
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@Rhywden said in Tinder is shit:
Generally, though, disregarding the prices, I found that the better restaurants have a limited menu. Maybe a maximum of one or two pages.
I think the general rule is that a large menu usually means the place is shit. (Unless we're talking about pizza toppings.) You cannot prepare 80 different dishes well every day and you probably won't even try to make them from fresh ingredients.
A small menu generally is a sign that the cook actually cares about what he's serving and what it's made from. Not necessarily a guarantee that the restaurant is good, though.
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@dfdub said in Tinder is shit:
I think the general rule is that a large menu usually means the place is shit.
Or that it's a Chinese/Thai/Mexican/etc place. Usually the first.
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@dcon said in Tinder is shit:
@dfdub said in Tinder is shit:
I think the general rule is that a large menu usually means the place is shit.
Or that it's a Chinese/Thai/Mexican/etc place. Usually the first.
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@dfdub said in Tinder is shit:
A small menu generally is a sign that the cook actually cares about what he's serving and what it's made from. Not necessarily a guarantee that the restaurant is good, though.
It's certainly a good central estimate. While I know of places with large menus which are surprisingly good, nowhere with a small menu that's also rubbish survives and all the very best restaurants round here have small menus (that change from time to time).
I really miss one of them. Haven't been since (late) January…
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@dkf said in Tinder is shit:
@dfdub said in Tinder is shit:
A small menu generally is a sign that the cook actually cares about what he's serving and what it's made from. Not necessarily a guarantee that the restaurant is good, though.
It's certainly a good central estimate. While I know of places with large menus which are surprisingly good, nowhere with a small menu that's also rubbish survives and all the very best restaurants round here have small menus (that change from time to time).
I really miss one of them. Haven't been since (late) January…
Thinking about this whole topic...I really haven't been to any restaurants that made me go "wow, that's good." But then I don't eat at restaurants much at all. An occasional stop at a fast food place if I'm in a hurry or so low on energy/will that I can't cook for myself is just about it. I've averaged $34/month on restaurants over the last 12 months, although that's really spiky (some months $65, others $0, only a few in between).
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@Benjamin-Hall said in Tinder is shit:
I really haven't been to any restaurants that made me go "wow, that's good."
My two current favourite restaurants (both in the “wow, that's good” category):
- About 5–10 minutes from here there's a place beside a canal. Seriously good. You'd probably talking ~$50/head for there, including some wine or beer (and if you really go for the drink the prices will go up fast). This is the place I was really missing…
- Around 45 minutes away there's another place. Haven't been for a while because that's quite a way to go on all but a really special occasion, but it has a Michelin star. No idea what the prices are these days.
Both are the kinds of places where the chef will only put on things on the menu that he can get suitably fine ingredients for. You don't go along saying “I'm going to have a steak because I always have steak” but rather “I'll go and have what they recommend” (and let them know at booking time if you've got any allergies they need to watch out for). I really hope they survive.
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@dkf said in Tinder is shit:
but it has a Michelin star.
I'm not sure I've ever been to a starred restaurant. I'd like to... (but I would want it to be actually good, not just the flashy micro meals you always hear about)
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@dcon said in Tinder is shit:
@dkf said in Tinder is shit:
but it has a Michelin star.
I'm not sure I've ever been to a starred restaurant. I'd like to... (but I would want it to be actually good, not just the flashy micro meals you always hear about)
yeah. Paying $$$ for 1/10th of a serving just doesn't do it for me, no matter how fancy the presentation.
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@dcon said in Tinder is shit:
I'm not sure I've ever been to a starred restaurant. I'd like to... (but I would want it to be actually good, not just the flashy micro meals you always hear about)
I think you'd be OK with the 1-star places (that restaurant not too far from here is quite capable of making you feel very well filled). It's anywhere that fancies itself so thoroughly that it gets three stars that you probably want to beware of as they'll be specifically catering to the palates of food reviewers (who see far too many restaurants and end up quite jaded about the whole thing). Also it'll charge the earth.
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@dkf said in Tinder is shit:
but it has a Michelin star
We have a restaurant close by that recently lost its star, which means it's become affordable again. And they started offering takeout due to COVID-19 - having upscale takeout options is really nice.
Edit: Their portion sizes are definitely more than okay as well. The only valid excuse for small portions is if the standard menu has 7 courses.
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@dcon said in Tinder is shit:
I'm not sure I've ever been to a starred restaurant. I'd like to...
RANKED: The 50 cheapest Michelin-starred meals in the world
It's easy to assume that Michelin-starred dining should be reserved for splurge-worthy special occasions only. However, this is no longer the case — and there are actually some affordable options if you know where and when to go.
I tried the Tim Ho Wan, the second cheapest on the list - in Tokyo though, not the original one in Hong Kong (there a few of them in the world). It's worth it if you like Asian food and don't want to spend much.
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@boomzilla said in Tinder is shit:
@Carnage said in Tinder is shit:
@boomzilla said in Tinder is shit:
@Groaner said in Tinder is shit:
100 dates in a year
Sounds exhausting. Does she work as an escort?
That sounds more like someone dating for free dinners.
Also, yes. I wonder how many were repeats vs new people / first dates.
I have the feeling they're her students. Still counts, right?
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@HardwareGeek said in Tinder is shit:
I'm guessing he has a lot of experience with that.
I'm sure he'd fuck him too. He also has a large lotion collection
