In other news today...
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Status: everyone is mentioning me about a dick...
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@TimeBandit said in In other news today...:
@Tsaukpaetra this way
I knew those penis fishes looked familiar.
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@Zecc said in In other news today...:
@TimeBandit said in In other news today...:
@Tsaukpaetra this way
I knew those penis fishes looked familiar.
Yeah, that one's Jimmy, there's Joe and Bob, and Melissa over there won't be ignored (naturally).
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@Tsaukpaetra Oh, I thought they were all named Richard.
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@Bulb What does that tell us about the number of hooks through the container, into the rest of the system?
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@AyGeePlus said in In other news today...:
@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
@TimeBandit Between the taxes, the francophones, and Trudeau, the entirety of Quebec should be a point of shame.
They keep trying to leave canada. Maybe one day they will.
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@JBert said in In other news today...:
@Tsaukpaetra Oh, I thought they were all named Richard.
No, that's the progenitor.
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@TimeBandit Once again, someone is too dumb to follow The First Rule Of Breaking The Rules: leave no evidence.
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A look at the Y2K bug, 20 years later
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@TimeBandit Looks like an old fashioned doomsday cult hijacked a valid (if small) technological concern.
The people who bought these books are probably still buying survivalist books and re-evaluating their survival kits every month today.
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@anonymous234 said in In other news today...:
@TimeBandit Looks like an old fashioned doomsday cult hijacked a valid (if small) technological concern.
The people who bought these books are probably still buying survivalist books and re-evaluating their survival kits every month today.
I remember how the scare went that embedded systems are everywhere, so everything from your microwave to your elevator might get stuck. And I'm like, yes, but why would the elevator care if it's 1900 or 2000?
Also, I rolled my PC's time over to past 2000 to see what happens and of course nothing did.
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@TimeBandit said in In other news today...:
A look at the Y2K bug, 20 years later
I wonder how they compare to their 2012 reprints.
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@anonymous234 said in In other news today...:
a valid (if small) technological concern
Not small. It was a giant problem. Once upon a time, it was really true that all computer systems would all grind to halt simultaneously on midnight, January 1, 2000. It's just that we had so much time to prepare and the fix was so easy that we managed to solve all the problems on time. Same with IPv4 exhaustion.
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@Gąska Most systems were fine, with exceptions for:
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Really ancient code (outside of actuarial systems, which have much longer time horizons anyway).
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Systems written by idiots in the first place.
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Perl (but that's really point #2 again).
It was due to some really poor examples in the documentation which resulted in the year 2000 often being rendered as
19100
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IPv4 exhaustion is real, but has been worked around for a while with NAT and CGNAT (as well as some clawback of early allocations). The limit of what these workarounds can do as been about reached; there are now major markets where allocations of even fairly small address ranges now has a waiting list.
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@dkf I think it really depends on which year we're talking about specifically. Even ancient systems were once new.
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@dkf said in In other news today...:
It was due to some really poor examples in the documentation which resulted in the year 2000 often being rendered as 19100...
To think there are developers out there now who were not yet news-aware when the y2k problem was a thing.
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https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1033655
In other news this Friday 13th, Chrome (and possibly Chrome-based apps) update helps you save storage space by dropping all your local storage.
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@Zecc Oh dear, this is going to be a fun one:
The new version has already rolled to 50% of users.
I'm not suggesting that we shouldn't fix it, just noting that we probably can't really do any better than just overwriting the new state (if it exists) with the old state (if it exists), so some percentage of users will possibly experience data loss again when the fix rolls out. :(
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@Zecc said in In other news today...:
dropping all your local storage.
I love the OP's comment:
Kevin, you don't really want to know that nobody is "in charge".
Edit: Reading this, sounds like paths are semi-hardcoded?
Files are created in the profile in various different places in the source and aren't enumerated explicitly anywhere, and some of them are only created when data is first written to them, and don't exist before then
Edit edit: And shame on those devs that apparently rely on a single source of truth for financial data that is located on the user's devices!?!?
What the shit1???!??
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@Tsaukpaetra I personally read that as awkward English for "who's responsible for this?"
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@Tsaukpaetra Holy tits, those twats deserve the firestorm about to let lose in their faces for storing important financial data in a fucking browser state. Browsers are notoriously shitty, but even more so if people have multiple devices they also have multiple financial histories. What the fucking :i-dont-even:
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@Carnage said in In other news today...:
@Tsaukpaetra Holy tits, those twats deserve the firestorm about to let lose in their faces for storing important financial data in a fucking browser state. Browsers are notoriously shitty, but even more so if people have multiple devices they also have multiple financial histories. What the fucking :i-dont-even:
Software Murphy #47:
If a location can be written to, and its description includes a whiff of persistence, unique records will be stored there.Software Murphy #48:
Point #47 counts double if the location is on a user's machine, potentially saving on server storage.Also, multiple websites now refuse to submit forms (via Submit button) if local storage is disabled. Including this forum, if I recall correctly.
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@acrow said in In other news today...:
@Carnage said in In other news today...:
@Tsaukpaetra Holy tits, those twats deserve the firestorm about to let lose in their faces for storing important financial data in a fucking browser state. Browsers are notoriously shitty, but even more so if people have multiple devices they also have multiple financial histories. What the fucking :i-dont-even:
Software Murphy #47:
If a location can be written to, and its description includes a whiff of persistence, unique records will be stored there.Software Murphy #48:
Point #47 counts double if the location is on a user's machine, potentially saving on server storage.Also, multiple websites now refuse to submit forms (via Submit button) if local storage is disabled. Including this forum, if I recall correctly.
Well yes. The face melting firestorm is gonna be busy.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
And shame on those devs that apparently rely on a single source of truth for financial data that is located on the user's devices!?!?
@Carnage said in In other news today...:
Holy tits, those twats deserve the firestorm about to let lose in their faces for storing important financial data in a fucking browser state. Browsers are notoriously shitty, but even more so if people have multiple devices they also have multiple financial histories. What the fucking :i-dont-even:
Wait, what? I have no idea what's going on, what financial data are we talking about?
It's a browser, not an account book.
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@topspin Have you read the comments in that Chrome bug thread?
Seems like some people made Android apps to analyze one's personal finances, and they stored it in the web storage database which was now lost.
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@Gąska said in In other news today...:
Same with IPv4 exhaustion.
which, unless something has drastically changed lately, has yet to be fully rolled out to all netizens....
or did you mean something other than IPv6?
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The way I read it, it's not financial information itself that's stored on the device - rather, it's the login credentials, which for some retarded reason are absolutely irrecoverable and the only way to continue using the app after a wipe is to create a new one.
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@Vixen said in In other news today...:
@Gąska said in In other news today...:
Same with IPv4 exhaustion.
which, unless something has drastically changed lately, has yet to be fully rolled out to all netizens....
or did you mean something other than IPv6?
I mean something else. NATs and other tricks that we've relied on for well over a decade.
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@Gąska said in In other news today...:
@Vixen said in In other news today...:
@Gąska said in In other news today...:
Same with IPv4 exhaustion.
which, unless something has drastically changed lately, has yet to be fully rolled out to all netizens....
or did you mean something other than IPv6?
I mean something else. NATs and other tricks that we've relied on for well over a decade.
ah. the tricks that have just about reached the end of their ability to hide the problem...... cool!
now when do we get IPv6 to all?
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@JBert said in In other news today...:
analyze one's personal finances, and they stored it in the web storage database which was now lost.
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@Vixen said in In other news today...:
@Gąska said in In other news today...:
@Vixen said in In other news today...:
@Gąska said in In other news today...:
Same with IPv4 exhaustion.
which, unless something has drastically changed lately, has yet to be fully rolled out to all netizens....
or did you mean something other than IPv6?
I mean something else. NATs and other tricks that we've relied on for well over a decade.
ah. the tricks that have just about reached the end of their ability to hide the problem...... cool!
It's like period. It bleeds every month, but it never dies!
@Vixen said in In other news today...:
now when do we get IPv6 to all?
Considering how well NATs and tricks are working? Never.
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Pretty map with colors and some numbers that say something:
India leads the world with 64% of whatever it is, second is B*****m at 58%, third is USA at 55%. A few other are in the 30-40% range, but most of the rest barely manage 10%. And entire Africa doesn't care at all.
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@Gąska said in In other news today...:
India leads the world with 64% of whatever it is
Wait, Germany is light green-ish? Then whatever it's measuring can't be important, considering our IT infrastructure.
Also, I think Randall would have something to say about mercator projection.
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
@Gąska said in In other news today...:
India leads the world with 64% of whatever it is
Wait, Germany is light green-ish? Then whatever it's measuring can't be important, considering our IT infrastructure.
You'd prefer black, white and red?
Also, I think Randall would have something to say about mercator projection.
Considering the abysmally small numbers around equator, I think it is fully justified in this case.
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
Also, I think Randall would have something to say about mercator projection.
He is free to project his complaints into IPv6 where most of the world can't hear him
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@hungrier if it was garage, I'd post a few design ideas for masks that I think would work the best.
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That guy looks familiar. Didn't he kill himself?
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@Gąska said in In other news today...:
In Runescape, knowing your total wealth costs around $14 to unlock. Inventory bars also cost $6 each to unlock.
That wouldn't be too bad if the fricking game didn't already cost $8/month. It's a total shitshow of a game I tell you.
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
@JBert said in In other news today...:
analyze one's personal finances, and they stored it in the web storage database which was now lost.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
Edit edit: And shame on those devs that apparently rely on a single source of truth for financial data that is located on the user's devices!?!?
What the shit1???!??
My god I'm just rolling this around in my head. What the fuck even is this.
That sentence is such a bait and switch, too. 'oh yeah we'll log them all out, plus delete their accounts. And delete years of financial information that isn't backed up anywhere.'
Oh jesus, that guy is from a company that builds a food stamp app.
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@Tsaukpaetra Honestly I blame Chrome too.
HTML5 is supposed to be a "real" API for real applications. Not just "things stored here might disappear lol". This means it should be able to store local data as reliably as native apps. Which means you should:
- be able to copy and backup your "local storage" and restore them. Which you can sorta do if you copy the right file in your browser profile folder, but that's not reliable or easy.
- not lose your frickin' data when you update your system.
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@anonymous234 said in In other news today...:
not lose your frickin' data when you update your system.
Your files are exactly where you left them
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@AyGeePlus said in In other news today...:
Oh jesus, that guy is from a company that builds a food stamp app.
Seriously? He takes his work seriously enough to write in the bugtracker. That is, he puts in effort. I thought food stamp apps would be built by the lowest bidder, likely in India. They wouldn't report bugs.
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@acrow said in In other news today...:
They wouldn't report bugs.
You're right, they'd be more proactive and just keep producing them.