A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App
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The Browser Freezes
Correct Definition: The entire browser does not respond to clicks, including tabs, the address bar, and sometimes even the close/minimize buttons. Often times the cursor is also stuck in a specific glyph, such as a hand pointer, arrow, or the 'wait' cursor. You either can wait it out until it becomes responsive again, or have to force-quit the browser.
Incorrect Definition: The web page no longer responds to interaction, either because there is an invisible div overlaying the entire page or due to some kind of broken javascript.
The Website is Down
Correct Definition: When attempting to go to any page on the website, there is an error preventing the loading of the page, often a 5XX error, but sometimes a timeout or something else.
Incorrect Definition: When you go to a specific page deep in the annals of the website, part of the content is missing. Also, if you attempt to access the website from a device not connected to the Internet or you are behind a firewall which prevents you from accessing the site, this does NOT mean the website is down.
The Browser Crashed
Correct Definition: The entire Browser window suddenly disappeared and it is no longer shown as 'active' in your task bar. Sometimes accompanied with a Windows dialog indicating that something has gone wrong and the application must close.
Incorrect Definition: Something broke on the website. Or you forgot your password and cannot login. Or there's a typo in the homepage. Or when clicking on a link, it took you to a different web page than you were expecting. Seriously, stop using the word 'crash' for any unexpected bug that happens while you're using a website, people.
This is a Bug
Correct Definition: The software behaved contrary to documented specifications.
Incorrect Definition: A new feature you really really want that is out of scope is not present in the software. Or the site behaves differently than you expect, but reflects documented specifications.
The Site is Broken
Correct Definition: Similar to "The Website is Down", but a little less restrictive. If a core part of the site is behaving incorrectly which is fundamentally causing issues which prevent people from using it effectively, I will concede that it is indeed broken. Still should be accompanied with a description of how it is broken.
Incorrect Definition: Clicking "About Us" is missing the third paragraph about how amazing the founder is at golf.
The Site is Slow
Correct Definition: This is subjective, but usually transitioning between pages and saving small amounts of data results in a loading period of several seconds consistently and when on a reliable and fast Internet connection.
Incorrect Definition: You're in the woods in Montana and found 1 bar of "1x" service on your cellphone and you are attempting to upload a 500Mb file to the site.
The Site Looks Bad
Correct Definition: The site does not match pre-approved comps provided by graphic artists. And I will be willing to accept a definition where you for some reason approved a comp which featured green text on a bright red background and would like to override that design decision.
Incorrect Definition: You showed this to your 8 year old nephew who gave you a thumbs down and said it is ugly.
Nothing Happened
Correct Definition: You performed an action such as a click on a button and, besides maybe a brief highlight of the button, absolutely nothing else happened.
Incorrect Definition: Something happened. Whether a loading graphic displaying, the page suddenly turned all white, the browser crashed, the browser froze, it played music, it insulted your mother, or anything else visual or audible which may be worthwhile to inform the support person or developer you are reporting this to.
This is Your Fault
Correct Definition: I introduced a bug from a prior release which was not caught before you got to see it. Mea culpa.
Incorrect Definition: Your office internet started behaving weird 6 weeks after I had you install that smartphone app on your personal phone in your house.
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What's the correct term for this:
App offers you a window to update a number (the odometer reading on your car, for insurance company's "safe-driving" monitoring feature). You enter the number and click on the "Next" button. A popup appears asking if you really want to update the number. You click on "Yes". Instead of going on to the next screen in the setup procedure, it returns you to the place where you originally entered the number.
And because you didn't complete the whole setup, your phone doesn't sync up with your bluetooth beacon, your driving habits don't get recorded, and you don't earn the discount you signed up for.
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502
Correct definition: Bad Gateway.
Incorrect definition: OK.
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@The_Quiet_One 413
Correct Definition: Payload Too Large. You sent something larger than the server would accept.
Would also accept: The supposed series finale of Mr. Robot
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@The_Quiet_One said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
it insulted your mother
I hate when that happens!
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@powerlord said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
Would also accept: The supposed series finale of Mr. Robot
We’ll know in a few days, I suppose, or a week and a half.
Interestingly, I’ve had Wikipedia’s page with episode summaries open (need to get the details for the episodes I download) and it showed episode 411 with some “TBA” data until I reloaded the page just now. After that, the page only goes to episode 410 …
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@The_Quiet_One said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
When you go to a specific page deep in the annals of the website,
Definition of ANNALS
a record of events arranged in yearly sequence; historical records : chronicles; records of the activities of an organization… See the full definition
One presumes you meant the common phrase "deep in the bowels," which could be related to..errr..."anals." Not sure if intentional joke.
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@Gurth said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
@powerlord said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
Would also accept: The supposed series finale of Mr. Robot
We’ll know in a few days, I suppose, or a week and a half.
Interestingly, I’ve had Wikipedia’s page with episode summaries open (need to get the details for the episodes I download) and it showed episode 411 with some “TBA” data until I reloaded the page just now. After that, the page only goes to episode 410 …
Part of my comment was because I've watched episode 409 and it started wrapping up a bunch of plot points... to the point where it felt like the first half of a season finale.
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@powerlord You too, huh? I was kind of wondering how they were going to fill four more episodes, given that in 409 the protagonists seem to have achieved most of the actual goals they set themselves. Of course, there’s the unresolved question of what Whiterose’s project actually is and does, so I kind of figured they’d focus on that in the remaining episodes.
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@Gurth said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
@powerlord You too, huh? I was kind of wondering how they were going to fill four more episodes, given that in 409 the protagonists seem to have achieved most of the actual goals they set themselves. Of course, there’s the unresolved question of what Whiterose’s project actually is and does, so I kind of figured they’d focus on that in the remaining episodes.
The preview at the end of episode 409 implied they'd be heading to Washington Township in 410, which is where the project is located.
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@powerlord said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
episode 409
Too
to look for myself, but I really hope they're numbered like hotel rooms (season:episode::floor:room), not sequentially.
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@error The Season 4 ones are all named and numbered after HTTP 400 errors (which incidentally means that they all have cats). The previous seasons didn't have the same naming scheme,
@error_bot httpcat 409
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@hungrier said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
The Season 4 ones are all named and numbered after HTTP 400 errors (which incidentally means that they all have cats).
Are the episodes actually themed after the code meanings?
That's. Kind of fucking cool.
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I should have checked the category, came here and expected the lolz and got the sadz.
Hits just a little too close to home.
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@powerlord said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
The preview at the end of episode 409 implied they'd be heading to Washington Township in 410, which is where the project is located.
Interesting. There was no preview at the end of the MKV, so I obviously hadn’t seen that part.
@error said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
Are the episodes actually themed after the code meanings?
Pretty much. The earlier seasons had filename-like titles: eps1.0_hellofriend.mov, eps2.1_k3rnel-pan1c.ksd, eps3.7_dont-delete-me.ko etc. One was even called shutdown -r.
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@Gurth I have never seen this show and have no idea what it is, but with episode names like that, it sounds like something I may need to watch.
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@HardwareGeek It's very good, but saying almost anything about why spoils major plot points. TLDR a highly skilled hacker allies himself with a hacktivist group, and a bunch of shit unfolds from there
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Somewhat tenuous connection
Kingpin of Evil Corp lived large. Now there’s a $5 million bounty on his head
Hammer falls on the cybercrime group behind Dridex, the most widespread malware ever.
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@hungrier said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
Somewhat tenuous connection
Kingpin of Evil Corp lived large. Now there’s a $5 million bounty on his head
Hammer falls on the cybercrime group behind Dridex, the most widespread malware ever.
LOL "Evil Corp." Sounds like a name they'd use in Captain Planet or PAW Patrol.
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@HardwareGeek said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
@Gurth I have never seen this show and have no idea what it is, but with episode names like that, it sounds like something I may need to watch.
Like @hungrier says, it’s hard to say much about it without giving anything away about the plot, but if you’ve always despaired at the way movies and TV shows portray computers and hacking, this is one that won’t disappoint you.
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@HardwareGeek said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
@Gurth I have never seen this show and have no idea what it is, but with episode names like that, it sounds like something I may need to watch.
Funny enough, I'm pretty sure I got a DMCA notice for watching an episode of said show. Kinda turned me off watching it.
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@Gurth Today wasn't the last episode, they've said there are two more weeks after this one.
Of course, they could air two episodes during the final week...
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@powerlord I was channel-flipping and happened to catch part of it. I have no idea who anybody was, what they were doing, or why they were doing it. I have the feeling I might need to watch a few previous episodes.
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@hungrier Why do people use error_bot for this when discobot had it first?
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@HardwareGeek said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
@powerlord I was channel-flipping and happened to catch part of it. I have no idea who anybody was, what they were doing, or why they were doing it. I have the feeling I might need to watch a few previous episodes.
Start at the beginning, otherwise none of it will make sense.
Although I've only watched season 1 myself. That was pretty good, IMO, but the first few episodes of season 2 had me all like "WTF is going on, I don't care about any of this, get back to the interesting part".
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@topspin said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
@HardwareGeek said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
@powerlord I was channel-flipping and happened to catch part of it. I have no idea who anybody was, what they were doing, or why they were doing it. I have the feeling I might need to watch a few previous episodes.
Start at the beginning, otherwise none of it will make sense.
Although I've only watched season 1 myself. That was pretty good, IMO, but the first few episodes of season 2 had me all like "WTF is going on, I don't care about any of this, get back to the interesting part".
Season 2 is definitely the weakest of the four seasons.
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@HardwareGeek said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
I have the feeling I might need to watch a few previous episodes.
You would be right. It’s a show that’s essentially one large story over its entire run, Babylon 5-style — even more so, actually, since a lot of B5 episodes you can enjoy for the story in that episode alone. Mr. Robot episodes often pick up where the last one left off and make little sense if you haven’t seen that one (and the one before, and …).
@powerlord said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
@Gurth Today wasn't the last episode, they've said there are two more weeks after this one.
Of course, they could air two episodes during the final week...
The Wikipedia page I mentioned earlier now lists episodes up to 13, with the last two to be broadcast on 22 December 2019.
@topspin said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
the first few episodes of season 2 had me all like "WTF is going on, I don't care about any of this, get back to the interesting part".
It makes sense eventually, but you have to bite the bullet of the first couple of episodes.
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@pie_flavor Established product. Brand awareness. Corporate consolidation.
You could stop at five or six stores. Or just one.
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@anonymous234 said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
@pie_flavor Established product. Brand awareness. Corporate consolidation.
You could stop at five or six stores. Or just one.
"error" sounds more reliable than "disco".
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@HardwareGeek said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
@powerlord I was channel-flipping and happened to catch part of it. I have no idea who anybody was, what they were doing, or why they were doing it. I have the feeling I might need to watch a few previous episodes.
It's critical to watch all of it in order
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@da-Doctah said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
What's the correct term for this:
App offers you a window to update a number (the odometer reading on your car, for insurance company's "safe-driving" monitoring feature). You enter the number and click on the "Next" button. A popup appears asking if you really want to update the number. You click on "Yes". Instead of going on to the next screen in the setup procedure, it returns you to the place where you originally entered the number.
And because you didn't complete the whole setup, your phone doesn't sync up with your bluetooth beacon, your driving habits don't get recorded, and you don't earn the discount you signed up for.
Allstate
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@hungrier said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
@HardwareGeek said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
@powerlord I was channel-flipping and happened to catch part of it. I have no idea who anybody was, what they were doing, or why they were doing it. I have the feeling I might need to watch a few previous episodes.
It's critical to watch all of it in order
how critical?
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Critical if i want to get all of the references and understand all of the long running story arcs, but i can still enjoy it otherwise
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Critical to understanding the main plot of the story to the point that missing a single episode, or wathcing them out of order will result in my not understanding, and therefore not enjoying the series ending.
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Critical to derive enjoyment from the experience of watching
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Critical to prevent the world from turning into Fallout 4
because the further down the list you go with that.... the less inclined i'm to watch the show at all.
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@Vixen Pretty much the second one. You could probably miss an episode here and there and it wouldn't be too bad, but for the most part everything builds on what's come before. There's also a lot of details and hints throughout that have fueled obsessive fan theories, and since this is close to the end of the last season, many of them are paying off.
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@Vixen said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
It's critical to watch all of it in order
how critical?
[snip]- Critical to understanding the main plot of the story to the point that missing a single episode, or wathcing them out of order will result in my not understanding, and therefore not enjoying the series ending.
This type of critical. Maybe not quite so bad, but like I said above, it's essentially one big story over four seasons, and a lot of what happens can and does reach back to earlier events. For example, I watched yesterday’s episode this afternoon, and it begins with a short flashback summary of things that happened to one of the main characters over the past three seasons — because the events of this episode almost need that little reminder to put things into perspective.
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@Gurth said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
it begins with a short flashback summary of things that happened to one of the main characters over the past three seasons
i'm having flashbacks to the flashback episode of Neon Genesis Evangelion.
only 24 episodes, and even then i STILL needed and actually appreciated the inclusion of the flashback episode as episode 23, because even though i binge watched that show in a weekend...... i still would have no hope of understanding that ending if that flashback episode wasn't there.
actually i'm still not 100% i do understand that series ending....
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@The_Quiet_One said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
The Website is Down
Has
The Website is Down(holy shit, there's more JavaScript easter eggs than the rest of the layout)The Website is Down already been mentioned?
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@Vixen said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
actually i'm still not 100% i do understand that series ending....
I don't think anybody, Hideaki Anno included, understands the ending...
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@The_Quiet_One said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
The Browser Crashed
Correct Definition: The entire Browser window suddenly disappeared and it is no longer shown as 'active' in your task bar. Sometimes accompanied with a Windows dialog indicating that something has gone wrong and the application must close.That's a little restrictive, no? There are plenty of things I'd classify as a "browser crash" that don't necessarily mean "immediate segfault and all processes terminated".
Absolutely agree on the rest though.
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@powerlord said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
@topspin said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
@HardwareGeek said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
@powerlord I was channel-flipping and happened to catch part of it. I have no idea who anybody was, what they were doing, or why they were doing it. I have the feeling I might need to watch a few previous episodes.
Start at the beginning, otherwise none of it will make sense.
Although I've only watched season 1 myself. That was pretty good, IMO, but the first few episodes of season 2 had me all like "WTF is going on, I don't care about any of this, get back to the interesting part".
Season 2 is definitely the weakest of the four seasons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_3JiTfmuzg
I like it well enough.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
I like it well enough.
Nice, in its own way, I guess. But I much prefer it the way Vivaldi wrote it, as a violin concerto. Also, that's only the last 1/3 of the piece.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g65oWFMSoK0
(Nothing particularly special about this performance; it was just the first one that showed up in the recommendation list. Violin soloist is pretty, though.)Edit: TIL the four concerti known as The Four Seasons are actually part of a set of 12 violin concerti. I don't think I've ever heard the other eight.
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@HardwareGeek said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
Nice, in its own way, I guess.
Chosen only because YouTube deemed that the first result, not any amount of accuracy or fitness for a purpose.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
@powerlord said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
@topspin said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
@HardwareGeek said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
@powerlord I was channel-flipping and happened to catch part of it. I have no idea who anybody was, what they were doing, or why they were doing it. I have the feeling I might need to watch a few previous episodes.
Start at the beginning, otherwise none of it will make sense.
Although I've only watched season 1 myself. That was pretty good, IMO, but the first few episodes of season 2 had me all like "WTF is going on, I don't care about any of this, get back to the interesting part".
Season 2 is definitely the weakest of the four seasons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_3JiTfmuzg
I like it well enough.
I didn't know The Four Seasons covered Vivaldi!
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@The_Quiet_One said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
@Tsaukpaetra said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
@powerlord said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
@topspin said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
@HardwareGeek said in A Glossary of Terms for "Doesn't Work" in a Web App:
@powerlord I was channel-flipping and happened to catch part of it. I have no idea who anybody was, what they were doing, or why they were doing it. I have the feeling I might need to watch a few previous episodes.
Start at the beginning, otherwise none of it will make sense.
Although I've only watched season 1 myself. That was pretty good, IMO, but the first few episodes of season 2 had me all like "WTF is going on, I don't care about any of this, get back to the interesting part".
Season 2 is definitely the weakest of the four seasons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_3JiTfmuzg
I like it well enough.
I didn't know The Four Seasons covered Vivaldi!
The Piano Guys have fun with "Winter":
