Bumblebee
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@blakeyrat said:
If Word was written the Linux Way, the spell-checker would be a program. ... Obviously this is a shitty and useless idea because, guess what, not even open source Linux-based word processors are built that way.
Oh hey, look, Hunspell is a separate product, and it's used by a bunch of unrelated products - from OpenOffice to XChat and Opera.
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@ender said:
@blakeyrat said:
If Word was written the Linux Way, the spell-checker would be a program. ... Obviously this is a shitty and useless idea because, guess what, not even open source Linux-based word processors are built that way.
Oh hey, look, Hunspell is a separate product, and it's used by a bunch of unrelated products - from OpenOffice to XChat and Opera.Objection! Relevance?
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@blakeyrant said:
Lots of whining
10/10, you can't possibly be that dense.
And if you actually are, you should have fucking spelled it out because I AM NOT TELEPATHIC. Or are we supposed to figure this out all by ourselves?
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@blakeyrat said:
@DaveK said:
Off the top of my head, two things really stood out:@blakeyrat said:
[ . . . ] anybody who's actually used Vista knows it was a perfectly fine, and finished, product. [ . . . ]
If that's what you call fine and finished, you have low standards.Ok. What was unfinished? Specifically?
1) Was the lack of driver support, this tells me that MS released in a hurry without giving their partners the usual time to develop drivers and get them through WHQL before going gold. Every previous version of NT series shipped with more and more supported drivers, it was a direct upward trend from NT to 2K to XP, and then suddenly with Vista the number took a precipitous tumble.
2) Was the fact that it was clearly not just incomplete, but not polished or optimised either, as evidenced by the massive slowdown bug when doing big file copies in explorer.
Vista was an utterly blatantly incomplete product. It was the beta for 7.
@blakeyrat said:
@DaveK said:
Well hang on, you didn't even wait for my evidence before dismissing my position, so that's a thoroughly bogus claim. You may disagree with my conclusion about the state of Vista at release, but you can't say I don't have grounds for my evaluation. And, yes, I DO have more insight than you into the statement, but only because I'm actually trying to understand what people say and accept that communication is a two-way process, not a broadcast.I do. I do, because I read people's posts and try to understand them, rather than deliberately try to fail just so that I can have something to be grouchy about. The fact that it was a response to your "release early and often" comment made it obvious where the OP was coming from.
You assume you do. You don't have any more insight into the statement than I do, and for all you know the aliens from Weeboo explanation is the correct one. The fact that your interpretation of his argument is factually incorrect... well, that doesn't help.
Then again, I don't have more insight than you, because in fact you have as much as I do really; you are actually perfectly capable of understanding other people, even when their communication is underspecified and you have to attempt to infer their meaning from their words(*), but you were just in a shit mood yesterday and being deliberately obtuse on purpose in order to wallow in your own misery. Hope you're feeling better today.
(*) - and, yes, risk perhaps getting it wrong, but the human mind actually has evolved to make pretty good inferences about what other human minds are trying to communicate to it through the medium of language, because that's how it works.
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@ender said:
@DaveK said:
Hah, I wasn't sure when I wrote that post, I first omitted DOS, then went back and added it, then decided I couldn't be sure and went back and took it out again.It's an old and well-known problem (see Unix Hater's Guide, for example), and it exists on all of *nix and NT/9x architectures.
Don't worry, DOS also supports spaces in filenames, except since no DOS programs had any kind of quoting/escaping support, it was very uncommon to find any (and when you did, it was very very hard to get rid of).@ender said:
@DaveK said:
Exactly why I disagree with Blakey's suggestion that this could never happen on Windows because it has a package management system; so does Linux, but in both cases, people will sometimes take shortcuts rather than use it properly and bugs like this can happen.b) there are still badly-written windows programs that come with crappy .bat file installer scripts, so what's your point?
Hah, that reminded me of Xonar D2X firmware update installer - on 64bit Windows, it launched a batch file to copy a driver that the installer placed to SysWOW64\drivers to the 64bit System32\drivers directory - except that I had (at the time 32bit only) TakeCommand installed, and the batch file ran through it, which resulted in it not doing anything (and the updater then failing, since the driver didn't load).The moral of the story, BTW, is that the time taken to learn how to properly use the package management system is always worth it, no matter what your OS.
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@DaveK said:
Exactly why I disagree with Blakey's suggestion that this could never happen on Windows because it has a package management system; so does Linux
As a Ubuntu user who doesn't really care what lives in the /usr folder I can say that it's the package manager that keeps me using the OS. I have installed and uninstalled many applications this way without any problems. I check the box in Package Manager to install and uncheck to uninstall.
As with any system there are developers out there who do not take the time and effort to use the tools properly which results in install procedures that involve make files and re-compiling the kernel. I really have no interest in doing this so I avoid those applications.
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@DaveK said:
This would be easier if the Linux "community" could get together and agree on a fucking package management system, instead of everybody inventing their own, each with its own unique set of shortcomings.The moral of the story, BTW, is that the time taken to learn how to properly use the package management system is always worth it, no matter what your OS.
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@Weng said:
This would be easier if the Linux "community" could get together and agree on a ... package management system, instead of everybody inventing their own, each with its own unique set of shortcomings.
That's one of the facts of life using Linux. For any given task, you'll have various tools that can handle it. The most famous is the windowing system itself; there's GNome, and KDE, and I'm using Blackbox right now. Package compatability would be feasible but if you standardized on a package management system then Doug & Eddie in Zimbabwe would invent a new one.
@bumblebee says that he loves the package manager that comes with Linux. Ubuntu? But which one? I mostly use apt-get. But I use Synaptic for when I don't know the name. I use dpkg-query to give me an ASCII list of currently installed packages; great for when I install a new OS and want to see the diff between what I had on the old system and what I have so far on the new system.
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@Weng said:
@DaveK said:
This would be easier if the Linux "community" could get together and agree on a fucking package management system, instead of everybody inventing their own, each with its own unique set of shortcomings.The moral of the story, BTW, is that the time taken to learn how to properly use the package management system is always worth it, no matter what your OS.
Ironic, since APT is pretty much omnipresent in modern GNU/Linux distros, while every Windows program has its own installer.
And what sort of "shortcomings" does APT have, anyway?
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@blakeyrat said:
Yes, but my point is... writing a script like this is the best way to accomplish the task of uninstalling the program? Seriously? Because it sucks in many fundamental ways. (As should be obvious about now...)
I don't know how carefully you looked at the comments on github, blakey, but I saw quite a few along the lines of "this is why you should use the package manager instead of writing your own". So yes, your criticism is valid, but only as far as this developer is concerned; it doesn't qualify as an indictment of Linux or OSS in general. And -- to forestall the seemingly-inevitable reply -- you could easily have known this without needing to be telepathic, since it was there in the inital link.And if there's a better way, then why the hell aren't they using it?
Let's all just agree that this developer should be banned from using his mommy and daddy's modem and move on, okay? I'm sure we can all still be friends.
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@TheChewanater said:
Ironic, since APT is pretty much omnipresent in modern GNU/Linux distros, while every Windows program has its own installer.
Only in Debian derived distros. RedHat, Suse, Arch, Slack all have their own. No doubt so do others.
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@sinistral said:
@boomzilla said:
@blakeyrat said:
Right; it stands for "Unix System Resources"
Only as a backronym.
Yes, I was saying how to pronounce /usr, not what it contains. I also had never heard of usr being "UNIX System Resources" until this very thread, and I've been a *NIX user since 1993 and have eagerly read UNIX history articles/posts/blogs and so forth. It does make for a nice backgronym, but the idea originally was that "user contributed" libraries (/usr/lib), programs (/usr/bin), and other things were in this directory. It was originally meant to be separate from "absolutely necessary for the system to come up", which would be in /bin and /lib.
That's ignoring, of course, that in early and not-so-early Unix /usr also contained... user home directories.
@The Linux Documentation Project said:
http://tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/usr.html : "In the original Unix implementations, /usr was where the home directories of the users were placed (that is to say, /usr/someone was then the directory now known as /home/someone). "
My home directory at university (ca 1987) was /usr/hatshepsut. Alongside /usr/bin et al.
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By the way, I notice the bug reports about this were closed pretty damn quickly. But not before one poor soul managed to see the funny side.
[quote user="<font color="#222222">ginoputrino</font>"]Guess it's ok to laugh about it now :-) Btw props to MrMEEE - this driver has totally saved me from having to do cad in windows. Legendary piece of work! I don't even mind that it wiped my machine the first time I tried it :-) [/quote]
Blakey?
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@Bumble Bee Tuna said:
@blakeyrat said:
What unbelievable douchebags. I knew open source developers didn't give a fuck, but I didn't know they were actively hostile. This is unbelievable.
You know that you're posting on a website whose purpose is to post code that fucks things up for users to laugh at, right?
Yes, but he was commenting on the comments on Github, which I don't think quite fits that description.
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@Hatshepsut said:
That's ignoring, of course, that in early and not-so-early Unix /usr also contained... user home directories.
Not really "ignoring it"... just change it to: idea originally was that "user contributed" libraries (/usr/lib), programs (/usr/bin), user specific data, and other things were in this directory.
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@AndyCanfield said:
IMHO the software developers of Linux are excellent; the best around. But the QA is terrible.
So QA isn't part and parcel of being an "excellent, best-around" software developer?
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@TheCPUWizard said:
@Hatshepsut said:
That's ignoring, of course, that in early and not-so-early Unix /usr also contained... user home directories.
Not really "ignoring it"... just change it to: idea originally was that "user contributed" libraries (/usr/lib), programs (/usr/bin), user specific data, and other things were in this directory.
You mean, add another item to the list? Because it wasn't in the original list? Because it was.. erm.. ignored?
Oh my god, I'm turning into Blakeyrat...
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@Hatshepsut said:
You mean, add another item to the list? Because it wasn't in the original list? Because it was.. erm.. ignored?
Not necessarily. It could have been forgotten by or unknown to the poster. Definitely different than ignored.
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@boomzilla said:
It could have been forgotten by or unknown to the poster. Definitely different than ignored.
Personally, I prefer the pre-19th century sense of "ignore".
And I think Fowler (regrettably, no link) prefers "different from", on the grounds that we would say it "differs from" the other.
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@Hatshepsut said:
So QA isn't part and parcel of being an "excellent, best-around" software developer?
Correct. That's why software companies have QA departments. Because Quality Assurance is a very different mindset from developer.
A salesman wants the program to work. A marketer wants the program to work. A developer wants the program to work. But a QA person is trying to get the program to fail. It's very rare for a person to be that antagonistic to his own code. And when a developer writes his test plan he naturally embeds his own assumptions into his test suite.
Example: the day the production control system was supposed to go live, it started by reading my barcodes. I got a panic phone call to come down to the factory. "Do your barcodes all have an extra character at the end?" "Yes, that's the check digit." They had tested their own software using their own assumptions and it worked fine.
I sit down at someone's new program and it's asking for an integer. I type in "1e2". You'd be surprised at how many badly written programs will accept that text string as one hundred. The developer would not think to try that. He's not nasty enough. But I am.
That's also why they have documentation departments. Different mindset.
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@Hatshepsut said:
Personally, I prefer the pre-19th century sense of "ignore".
That sounds like a personal problem.
@Hatshepsut said:
And I think Fowler (regrettably, no link) prefers "different from", on the grounds that we would say it "differs from" the other.
Yeah...why would I care about how some dead monarchist wanted me to write? In any case, we say things like "bigger than," so I think using "different than" works well in comparisons, though "different from" doesn't seem incorrect to me either, which is maybe odd, considering that differs is a verb and different an adjective.
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@AndyCanfield said:
Correct....<snip>
I disagree. QA exists to provide an independent audit of the item in question. Any defect discovered has a responsible person for allowing the defect to reach the QA Team. In the case of software there are two primary reasons.
a) The developer did not implement sufficient testing (Unit Testing, Behavorial Testing, etc.) to catch the defect
b) The specification (requirement, userstory, whatever name) was not specific enough to define the operation.The exact same is true of (technical) documentation [not talking "user manuals"]. The documentation "department" exists to make sure that all submissions meet the defined criteria. Any error or ommision should be sent back to the person (developer) submitting the documentation.
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@Xyro said:
@blakeyrat said:
Right; it stands for "Unix System Resources" and it's pronounced "user". Stop fucking with me. And fuck you.
Wait till he finds out about "/etc"!Been there, done that on a Solaris 10 global - shall we say restoration was educational (headless server in a remote data centre, backups can only be restored once the system is vaguely back to where it was before it happened). Only serial console access and Wanboot and a pressing need _not_ to reinstall the global.
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@AndyCanfield said:
But a QA person is trying to get the program to fail.
I'd prefer to describe that person as a software tester.
Surely 'QA' is a process that should be ingrained at all stages of software development and production. Calling system-level software testing 'QA' seems to be restricting the concept of quality to the end of the line, and is a strong incentive for developers and others not involved in that specific task to consider quality to be somebody else's responsibility.
@AndyCanfield said:
Example: the day the production control system was supposed to go live, it started by reading my barcodes. I got a panic phone call to come down to the factory. "Do your barcodes all have an extra character at the end?" "Yes, that's the check digit." They had tested their own software using their own assumptions and it worked fine.
Wasn't there some kind of requirements specification covering this? This kind of mismatch ought to be discovered even before the developers are testing (indeed, writing) their own software.
In fact, I think this illustrates my point: A good developer ought to recognise when he's making assumptions, and to recognise this as an indicator of possible problems. To me, that's an important part of QA.
Perhaps I'm abusing the term 'QA', when I should be using the vaguer term 'quality'...
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@boomzilla said:
@Hatshepsut said:
Personally, I prefer the pre-19th century sense of "ignore".
That sounds like a personal problem.
@Hatshepsut said:
And I think Fowler (regrettably, no link) prefers "different from", on the grounds that we would say it "differs from" the other.
Yeah...why would I care about how some dead monarchist wanted me to write? In any case, we say things like "bigger than," so I think using "different than" works well in comparisons, though "different from" doesn't seem incorrect to me either, which is maybe odd, considering that differs is a verb and different an adjective.
OK OK, I obviously didn't tag my post explicitly enough.
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@Hatshepsut said:
OK OK, I obviously didn't tag my post explicitly enough.
It's hard to stop a pedantic dickrant once it gets going.
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What I was describing was the QA Department back when I was insoftware houses in the 1980's. Perhaps things have changed since then.
We didn't have requirements specifications back then. The owner of the company would come around and say "We want something like this..." and then we'd sketch it out and he'd adjust it and then we'd do it.
One of my long-copied PHP functions is to verify user integer input; that's it has only digits, that it is as least N1, and that it is no more than N2. I've never seen any specification document that gets down to that level of detail. I've also never seen a programmer type "999999999" into an integer field for, say, body weight.
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@TheCPUWizard said:
The exact same is true of (technical) documentation [not talking "user manuals"]. The documentation "department" exists to make sure that all submissions meet the defined criteria.
Do you mean that the documentation department doesn't create documentation? Because ours did.
And yes, I am not talking about internal (technical?) documentation. I am talking about public user documentation. For an open source package like Drupal, the public documenation can get quite technical.
Internal documentation is designed to be read by company programmers, with access to the source and archives, and builds, and the water cooler. Public documentation is designed to be read by isolated non-experts who only see the product from the outside and do not have long experience with the it. It's a different comminications problem. Many people make good money just writing documentation. Good programmers make good money writing programs, not manuals.
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@AndyCanfield said:
What I was describing was the QA Department back when I was insoftware houses in the 1980's. Perhaps things have changed since then.
We didn't have requirements specifications back then. The owner of the company would come around and say "We want something like this..." and then we'd sketch it out and he'd adjust it and then we'd do it.
Even when I was just starting [early / mid 1970's], detailed requirement were always presented. One way to convince people of their importance was to write code that met what limited specifications were provided, but obviously were not the intended.
One of my favorite ones (remember this is back in the days of hard copy terminals, was to set up the input so that words ha to be used:
Enter a Number between 1 and 10? 5
ERROR: 5 is not a valid Number
Enter a Number between 1 and 10? FIVE
Thank You.When there was a complaint, I would ask them to point out what part of the requirements were violated.
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@boomzilla said:
@TheChewanater said:
Almost everybody uses a Debian or Ubuntu based distro, and APT also works with RPMs anyway.Ironic, since APT is pretty much omnipresent in modern GNU/Linux distros, while every Windows program has its own installer.
Only in Debian derived distros. RedHat, Suse, Arch, Slack all have their own. No doubt so do others.
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@boomzilla said:
@TheChewanater said:
Almost everybody I know uses a Debian or Ubuntu based distro
FTFYI agree, FYI I use OpenSuse
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@AndyCanfield said:
I've also never seen a programmer type "999999999" into an integer field for, say, body weight.
And this is how "yo momma so fat" threads get started...
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@boomzilla said:
@TheChewanater said:
Almost everybody I know uses a Debian or Ubuntu based distro
FTFY
http://counter.li.org/reports/machines.php
Scroll down to "Distrobution".
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@TheChewanater said:
@boomzilla said:
@TheChewanater said:
Almost everybody I know uses a Debian or Ubuntu based distro
FTFY
http://counter.li.org/reports/machines.phpScroll down to "Distrobution".
I've got a bridge that you might be interested in buying.
So, AFAICT, these guys have 107,863 self reported Linux users. Which (maybe) tells us something about those guys who registered, whomever they are. But not much else.
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@AndyCanfield said:
I've also never seen a programmer type "999999999" into an integer field for, say, body weight.
On the other hand, the same input routine should not choke on "000000099".
(We're talking either kilograms or pounds here, right? With some units "nine nines" might actually fall into the acceptable range.)
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@da Doctah said:
@AndyCanfield said:
I've also never seen a programmer type "999999999" into an integer field for, say, body weight.
On the other hand, the same input routine should not choke on "000000099".
(We're talking either kilograms or pounds here, right? With some units "nine nines" might actually fall into the acceptable range.)
Can't be talking kilograms (or technically Pounds either)...although quoting Wikipedia is typically a WTF, I think it is good enough for here...
The kilogram is a unit of <font color="#0645ad">mass</font>, the measurement of which corresponds to the general, everyday notion of how “heavy” something is. However, mass is actually an <font color="#0645ad">inertial</font> property; that is, the tendency of an object to remain at constant velocity unless acted upon by an outside <font color="#0645ad">force</font>. According to <font color="#0645ad">Sir Isaac Newton's</font> 324-year-old <font color="#0645ad">laws of motion</font> and an important formula that sprang from his work, F = ma, an object with a mass, m, of one kilogram will <font color="#0645ad">accelerate</font>, a, at one <font color="#0645ad">meter per second per second</font> (about one-tenth the acceleration due to <font color="#0645ad">earth’s gravity</font>)<font size="2"><font color="#0645ad">[Note 4]</font></font> when acted upon by a force, F, of one <font color="#0645ad">newton</font>.
While the <font color="#0645ad">weight</font> of matter is entirely dependent upon the strength of gravity, the mass of matter is invariant.<font size="2"><font color="#0645ad">[Note 5]</font></font> Accordingly, for astronauts in <font color="#0645ad">microgravity</font>, no effort is required to hold objects off the cabin floor; they are “weightless”. However, since objects in microgravity still retain their mass and inertia, an astronaut must exert ten times as much force to accelerate a 10‑kilogram object at the same rate as a 1‑kilogram object.
On earth, a common swing set can demonstrate the relationship of force, mass, and acceleration without being appreciably influenced by weight (downward force). If one were to stand behind a large adult sitting stationary in a swing and give him a strong push, the adult would accelerate relatively slowly and swing only a limited distance forwards before beginning to swing backwards. Exerting that same effort while pushing on a small child would produce much greater acceleration.
Now if the prompt had been for Body MASS.......
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@TheChewanater said:
@boomzilla said:
@TheChewanater said:
Almost everybody I know uses a Debian or Ubuntu based distro
FTFY
http://counter.li.org/reports/machines.php
Scroll down to "Distrobution".
So it seems that 45.43% of the respondents were using Debian-based distributions. While it's the majority, it's not exactly "almost everybody", either.
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@Spectre said:
So it seems that 45.43% of the respondents were using Debian-based distributions. While it's the majority, it's not exactly "almost everybody", either.
It may be the leader, but 45.43% is NOT a majority.
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@TheCPUWizard said:
@da Doctah said:
@AndyCanfield said:
I've also never seen a programmer type "999999999" into an integer field for, say, body weight.
On the other hand, the same input routine should not choke on "000000099".
(We're talking either kilograms or pounds here, right? With some units "nine nines" might actually fall into the acceptable range.)
Can't be talking kilograms (or technically Pounds either)...although quoting Wikipedia is typically a WTF, I think it is good enough for here...
The kilogram is a unit of <font color="#0645ad">mass</font>, the measurement of which corresponds to the general, everyday notion of how “heavy” something is. However, mass is actually an <font color="#0645ad">inertial</font> property; that is, the tendency of an object to remain at constant velocity unless acted upon by an outside <font color="#0645ad">force</font>. According to <font color="#0645ad">Sir Isaac Newton's</font> 324-year-old <font color="#0645ad">laws of motion</font> and an important formula that sprang from his work, F = ma, an object with a mass, m, of one kilogram will <font color="#0645ad">accelerate</font>, a, at one <font color="#0645ad">meter per second per second</font> (about one-tenth the acceleration due to <font color="#0645ad">earth’s gravity</font>)<font size="2"><font color="#0645ad">[Note 4]</font></font> when acted upon by a force, F, of one <font color="#0645ad">newton</font>.
While the <font color="#0645ad">weight</font> of matter is entirely dependent upon the strength of gravity, the mass of matter is invariant.<font size="2"><font color="#0645ad">[Note 5]</font></font> Accordingly, for astronauts in <font color="#0645ad">microgravity</font>, no effort is required to hold objects off the cabin floor; they are “weightless”. However, since objects in microgravity still retain their mass and inertia, an astronaut must exert ten times as much force to accelerate a 10‑kilogram object at the same rate as a 1‑kilogram object.
On earth, a common swing set can demonstrate the relationship of force, mass, and acceleration without being appreciably influenced by weight (downward force). If one were to stand behind a large adult sitting stationary in a swing and give him a strong push, the adult would accelerate relatively slowly and swing only a limited distance forwards before beginning to swing backwards. Exerting that same effort while pushing on a small child would produce much greater acceleration.
Now if the prompt had been for Body MASS.......
Then all the Protestants would leave it blank.
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@da Doctah said:
@AndyCanfield said:
Depends on whether it's interpreted as octal or not....I've also never seen a programmer type "999999999" into an integer field for, say, body weight.
On the other hand, the same input routine should not choke on "000000099".
I've been bitten by this on some brain-dead code that manually parsed ip addresses that barfed, silently, when the configuration had addresses such as 192.168.099.001, instead of using the functions that should have been used in the first place (and the lack of error checking didn't really help either.)
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@PJH said:
Depends on whether it's interpreted as octal or not....
There are quite a few libraries that interpret any leading 0 as octal. Some programming languages do also. Assign 0105 to a variable any you magically get....
[FWIW, 105 is one of the magic number, if treated as a octal number, it is equal to a two digit decimal number; if treated as a decimal number, ti is equal to the same two digits in a hex number]
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@TheCPUWizard said:
[FWIW, 105 is one of the magic number, if treated as a octal number, it is equal to a two digit decimal number; if treated as a decimal number, ti is equal to the same two digits in a hex number]
0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 53, 371, 5141, 99481.What rule is used to set these numbers apart from all the rest?
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@da Doctah said:
0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 53, 371, 5141, 99481.
Heh. Neat. If you wanted larger examples I suppose you'd have to end them with 0 and relax the rules a little. Can't be bothered trying to work out whether there are any such, though.What rule is used to set these numbers apart from all the rest?
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@Scarlet Manuka said:
@da Doctah said:
0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 53, 371, 5141, 99481.
Heh. Neat. If you wanted larger examples I suppose you'd have to end them with 0 and relax the rules a little. Can't be bothered trying to work out whether there are any such, though.What rule is used to set these numbers apart from all the rest?
But if I don't relax the rules and play games with zeroes, it's a comprehensive set.
Which got it disqualified when I tried to submit it to one of those "what is this sequence?" websites. They only wanted infinite series.
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@da Doctah said:
@Scarlet Manuka said:
Yes; isn't that what I said?If you wanted larger examples I suppose you'd have to end them with 0 and relax the rules a little.
But if I don't relax the rules and play games with zeroes, it's a comprehensive set.
Pity your sequence didn't get any love. The OEIS does accept finite sequences; this one is there as [url=http://oeis.org/A133377]Sequence A133377[/url].
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@blakeyrat said:
@Sutherlands said:
w3wc in server 2008. I picked that up just by working with it. Point being, I would expect you to at least know after working with Linux/Unix that the /usr folder contains something important.
Ok; why?
I'm sorry I don't meet your expectations. But then again I don't really care about your expectations. So never mind I'm not sorry.
I should think anyone with even a modicum of intellectual curiosity would know what /usr is.
Also, I wouldn't even consider hiring a Windows developer who doesn't even know what the .exe for IIS is. That shows that your debugging abilities are probably somewhat lacking. But you even admitted that you don't care about how anything works.
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@ShatteredArm said:
Also, I wouldn't even consider hiring a Windows developer who doesn't even know what the .exe for IIS is.
I'll bite. What does IIS have to do with windows development?
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@boomzilla said:
@ShatteredArm said:
O_o. Because it's the Windows web server?Also, I wouldn't even consider hiring a Windows developer who doesn't even know what the .exe for IIS is.
I'll bite. What does IIS have to do with windows development?
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@Sutherlands said:
@boomzilla said:
@ShatteredArm said:
Also, I wouldn't even consider hiring a Windows developer who doesn't even know what the .exe for IIS is.
I'll bite. What does IIS have to do with windows development?
O_o. Because it's the Windows web server?
Yeah, I know that. Have we really reached the stage where we assume a developer is a web developer? If so, that's TRWTF.
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@boomzilla said:
@Sutherlands said:
@boomzilla said:
Yeah, I know that. Have we really reached the stage where we assume a developer is a web developer? If so, that's TRWTF.@ShatteredArm said:
O_o. Because it's the Windows web server?Also, I wouldn't even consider hiring a Windows developer who doesn't even know what the .exe for IIS is.
I'll bite. What does IIS have to do with windows development?No, but we have reached the point where we can assume that ShatteredArm was talking about a position where that would be relevent.
