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Since today's Xkcd didn't make much sense to me I popped over to Explain, only to find...
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Some discussion further down the page:
Cars are getting more intelligent and the voters seem to get dumber. This comic states that some cars are more intelligent than the average voters. 141.101.104.209 06:48, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
No matter how smart the car is it would need to meet eligibility requirements to vote. Cars are typically registered in a jurisdiction but are generally not recognized as citizens or residents for voting purposes. Only some cars meet the age requirements, e.g. in the United States the median age of an automobile was 11.4 years in 2014 while a voter must be at least 18 years of age to vote in US Federal elections. As for the title text, cars are generally incapable of reproduction [citation needed], ineligible for adoption [citation needed], and generally do not attend school [citation needed], making this scenario multiply implausible ChronoCronut (talk) 09:00, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
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@Zecc said in Citation needed <sup>[Citation needed]</sup>:
Some discussion further down the page:
Cars are getting more intelligent and the voters seem to get dumber. This comic states that some cars are more intelligent than the average voters. 141.101.104.209 06:48, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
No matter how smart the car is it would need to meet eligibility requirements to vote. Cars are typically registered in a jurisdiction but are generally not recognized as citizens or residents for voting purposes. Only some cars meet the age requirements, e.g. in the United States the median age of an automobile was 11.4 years in 2014 while a voter must be at least 18 years of age to vote in US Federal elections. As for the title text, cars are generally incapable of reproduction [citation needed], ineligible for adoption [citation needed], and generally do not attend school [citation needed], making this scenario multiply implausible ChronoCronut (talk) 09:00, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
Conclusion: not funny because it requires a lengthy explanation. Now, you may say that about many XKCDs since many of them require domain specific knowledge, but if you explain those at least you learned something potentially useful. In contrast, I barely managed to read that explanation without falling asleep.
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I thought the discussion was funny, irrespective of explaining or not the comic.
No matter how smart the car is it would need to meet eligibility requirements to vote. [...] a voter must be at least 18 years of age to vote in US Federal elections
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Meh, I understood the joke. Just didn't find it particularly funny. Xkcd has been trending that way for a long time though.
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@Zecc Cool, so my pickup will be able to vote in 2022!
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OK this is the time when I ask: what the fuck does
mean? It appeared to me that it meant something like "can't be arsed". But it doesn't work here. Or maybe it does.
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@admiral_p Basically, "I am lazy"
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@PleegWat then I was right.
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@admiral_p
The root meme: https://what.thedailywtf.com/topic/11847/the-official-likes-topic/66908Basically, around the time that the NFL kneeling protests were getting a bunch of attention again, @boomzilla posted a kneeling warthog in protest of being accused of doing work, and that's kind of morphed into mods protesting being made to do work (or plebs joking about mods' protests when made to do work).
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@Onyx said in Citation needed <sup>[Citation needed]</sup>:
Conclusion: not funny because it requires a lengthy explanation.
Only if you aren't familiar with common bumper stickers in America.
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@boomzilla
My student could beat up your lazy honor mod.
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@izzion it could try.
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@Zecc said in Citation needed <sup>[Citation needed]</sup>:
Only some cars meet the age requirements, e.g. in the United States the median age of an automobile was 11.4 years in 2014 while a voter must be at least 18 years of age to vote in US Federal elections.
My car will be old enough to vote in the next election.
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@mott555 said in Citation needed <sup>[Citation needed]</sup>:
Cool, so my pickup will be able to vote in 2022!
Only if it registers, and you won't be able to into the voting booth with it to help.
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@boomzilla said in Citation needed <sup>[Citation needed]</sup>:
@Onyx said in Citation needed <sup>[Citation needed]</sup>:
Conclusion: not funny because it requires a lengthy explanation.
Only if you aren't familiar with common bumper stickers in America.
Garage material
Random* GIS:
* ish. LOL
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@dkf said in Citation needed <sup>[Citation needed]</sup>:
@mott555 said in Citation needed <sup>[Citation needed]</sup>:
Cool, so my pickup will be able to vote in 2022!
Only if it registers, and you won't be able to into the voting booth with it to help.
All cars have to be registered! (and I have the paper to prove it!) And most people in CA vote by mail.
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When I was a kid (~1st or 2nd grade), it used to annoy me that the quizzes and assignments would have a space for "My Name is _________" rather than simply, "Name _________". I indignantly objected that the paper didn't have a name.
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@chozang Just give it a first name and a patronymic from your own name, it's fine.
ex. "Quizty Chozangton I"
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@chozang It seems to have become a trend in user interfaces (including on some snail mail!) nowadays that it should be written in the first person, as if people are so dumb that they have to read aloud what's on the screen and then think about it. Well, not so much in English, but it's now commonplace in French and it's horrible.
"I click here to access my statements. I download the app. I fill in the form."
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@remi said in Citation needed <sup>[Citation needed]</sup>:
it's now commonplace in French and it's horrible.
You need to arm your Grammar Police.
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@remi said in Citation needed <sup>[Citation needed]</sup>:
@chozang It seems to have become a trend in user interfaces (including on some snail mail!) nowadays that it should be written in the first person, as if people are so dumb that they have to read aloud what's on the screen and then think about it. Well, not so much in English, but it's now commonplace in French and it's horrible.
"I click here to access my statements. I download the app. I fill in the form."
I am going to figure out how to talk like this.
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@HardwareGeek said in Citation needed <sup>[Citation needed]</sup>:
@remi said in Citation needed <sup>[Citation needed]</sup>:
it's now commonplace in French and it's horrible.
You need to arm your Grammar Police.
Unfortunately they might be the ones who would defend this.
Also, it's not called Grammar Police here, it's called French Academy, and they're already armed (OK, with swords, but still).
The weirdest part of all is that I mentioned it to several other (French) people, and no one seems to have any issue with that style of writing. Does that mean everyone else is a moron, or I'm an old fart who can't accept change? (inb4 why not both...)
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@Gribnit I'm sure you would love it, especially since it tremendously adds to confusion when done, uh, "properly". EDF (the main electricity provider) does it wonderfully.
It starts pretty tamely on the login page:
"I login" and the well-known (because provided by reCAPTCHA) "I'm not a robot" (which is in English probably because of my browser settings although really, who knows?).
There is already a hint of things to come: "remember my email", "password forgotten" that are marvellously ambiguous (is it "I remember my email" or "you remember"? Is it "I have forgotten" or "you"?), but all in all it's still readable. Same for "need help" in the top-right. They often resort to that impersonal style, I can only assume that some writers have a tiny shred of conscience and try to rebel in any way they can against that stupid style.
And then the kicker in the last line: "First connection? Create your client space to [blablabla]", not "I create my...". Oops.
I'm not going to bore you with tens of snapshots of the rest of the site (once logged in), especially because inconsistencies are strewn out all over the place and hiding all PII is
, but then I get stuff like a "My contracts" link next to a "We can help you" link (to some chatbot, who of course itself speaks in the first person so you'd have a popup where "I" means the chatbot on top of a page where "I" means, well, "you"). Just one example, the "news" (i.e. ads and useless fluff) section on my account page:
The first box says "My meter", "the Linky meter will be installed in my home in...", which really reads awfully (I can vaguely tolerate "I click here to...", but "stuff will happen in my home", no way).
The second box says "My good habits", "Do like 6 millions of our clients, switch to electronic bills", and "I discover more advice". Yup, one short sentence and they're not even able to follow their own writing style. Maybe in one stroke of actual thinking, a writer realized that "I do like 6 millions of your clients" was so confusing that it was best to ditch the first person... but just for that single sentence!
Anyway, that should go to a rant thread, there's not much funny in that.
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@remi said in Citation needed <sup>[Citation needed]</sup>:
a "We can help you" link (to some chatbot, who of course itself speaks in the first person
"I can be helped!"
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@Tsaukpaetra I have done it! I have showed you how! Now you can do it too! Thank me, thank me. You are sure you will not regret this.
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@remi said in Citation needed <sup>[Citation needed]</sup>:
which is in English probably because of my browser settings although really, who knows?
Also email is not a French word, it's "courriel" stupid European French people
Edit: and of course, they use the English word and pronounce it with the worst French accent possible like "e mel"
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@TimeBandit said in Citation needed <sup>[Citation needed]</sup>:
Also email is not a French word, it's "courriel" stupid European French people
Mercifully that one is quietly dying down. Although tbh, it was a pretty good translation.
Edit: and of course, they use the English word and pronounce it with the worst French accent possible like "e mel"
Well at least it's still written "email", not like "CD-ROM" whose official translation is supposed to be "cédérom". Though that one never took off and CDs being something of the past already, it's never going to come back (I hope!).
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