IBM Interview WTFs (courtesy of Blakeyrat)
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As @blakeyrat requested, posting this here:
https://old.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/97qhdo/name_and_shame_ibm/
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I had a different, but also shit, experience applying for a position at IBM. So, they were having a couple positions out where I could apply (junior Java dev and tester). And, being desperate for a job a the time, applied. It was a two-stage process with a couple tests to do at home and then an afternoon with interviews and group exercises.
In hindsight I can be thankful that I didn’t get the job. But the reason (to their credit, IBM actually did a followup where they told me why I wasn’t hired) was kinda
y: ”From a technical point you’re a perfect fit, fulfilling all the requirements for the position. But you could not give us a good enough explanation as to why we should hire you.” So, despite having all they were looking for, I did not get the job because I could not sell myself well enough. Fuckers.I can’t remember if I did a detailed writeup of the process or not, but it would be lounge material in that case.
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I do give IBM credit for making what sounds to be a pretty good effort at eliminating cheating on the technical test. Usually when you're given an online technical test the rules are either not spelled out or worse, not effectively enforced.
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@tharpa I believe that's actually a contractor offering the technical screening which we've talked about before from this article:
http://shivankaul.com/blog/2016/12/07/clean-your-desk-yet-another-amazon-interview-experience.html
EDIT: Here's the previous discussion:
https://what.thedailywtf.com/topic/21572/clean-your-desk-interviews-at-amazon
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You're looking at $100k in Silicon Valley. $10k more if you're a grad student. No stock options and negligible raises.
For comparison, the average new grad offer in Silicon Valley at a FAANG company here is $160k.I like that these companies fly people from all over the world... right into the most expensive place they could find.
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@anonymous234 said in IBM Interview WTFs (courtesy of Blakeyrat):
I like that these companies fly people from all over the world... right into the most expensive place they could find.
This leads to hilarious budgeting
s. From what is definitely not personal experience, I know that some companies use the Silicon Valley salary as the point of reference for budgeting. This means that a European employee doesn't count as a "full" employee for budgeting purposes and that you can hire 3-4 South American employees if you get budget for one employee.Actually, let me retract my initial statement: This is not hilarious, but quite sad…
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For comparison, the average new grad offer in Silicon Valley at a FAANG company here is $160k. If you play your cards right, you can negotiate this to $190k+.
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At the kickoff dinner, you are presented with a problem statement and given 3 days to develop a solution.
So they want you to work for free for 3 days? Who's got time for that?
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@Atazhaia said in IBM Interview WTFs (courtesy of Blakeyrat):
you’re a perfect fit, fulfilling all the requirements for the position. But you could not give us a good enough explanation as to why we should hire you
What? Wait, what?!?
What other reasons did they even expect besides "I've got everything you need."
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Well, sheee-it. An new grad makes as much or more at FAANG as I do (also in Silly Valley) as a consultant (so should be a little over the FTE rate) at a non-FAANG company with 30+ years of experience. Something's out of whack; either I'm being short-changed, or FAANG is paying stupid much to new grads.
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@HardwareGeek Nah this guy's full of shit, even for silly valley. $100-$120 maybe. But AVERAGE of $160? No way he has any data to back that shit up.
(The average in Glass Door is like $90. Which is still stupidly high for the rest of the country, but a far cry from $160.)
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@HardwareGeek said in IBM Interview WTFs (courtesy of Blakeyrat):
FAANG is paying stupid much to new grads.
From friends, I know that at least Google is definitely doing that. It's crazy and I'm also pretty sure that they won't continue doing so forever.
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@blakeyrat said in IBM Interview WTFs (courtesy of Blakeyrat):
But AVERAGE of $160?
He wasn't talking about the average in Silicon Valley, but the average at Facebook, Netflix, Apple and Google in Silicon Valley. And he might actually be right about that.
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@loopback0 said in IBM Interview WTFs (courtesy of Blakeyrat):
For comparison, the average new grad offer in Silicon Valley at a FAANG company here is $160k. If you play your cards right, you can negotiate this to $190k+.
"Low income" is six figures here.
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@dfdub said in IBM Interview WTFs (courtesy of Blakeyrat):
He wasn't talking about the average in Silicon Valley
the average new grad offer in Silicon Valley
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@Jaloopa said in IBM Interview WTFs (courtesy of Blakeyrat):
the average new grad offer in Silicon Valley
Nice selective quoting. Read the following words as well and try again.
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@topspin said in IBM Interview WTFs (courtesy of Blakeyrat):
@Atazhaia said in IBM Interview WTFs (courtesy of Blakeyrat):
you’re a perfect fit, fulfilling all the requirements for the position. But you could not give us a good enough explanation as to why we should hire you
What? Wait, what?!?
What other reasons did they even expect besides "I've got everything you need.""...(and none of your other candidates do)"
