Should I get a Macbook?
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@stillwater Jesus, India prices are insane. That's about $1500 on my end. As for the SSD thing that doesn't make a ton of sense. Check if it's upgradeable - it'd be cheaper to buy an SSD yourself and put it in the computer, probably. Assuming SSDs aren't obscenely expensive in India too, which is entirely possible. If they are then I'd say just get the one with an SSD. Either way you want to end up with an SSD in your computer - it's a massive speedup for so many things.
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@pie_flavor said in Should I get a Macbook?:
Jesus, India prices are insane.
Oh some things are obscenely overpriced. I remember getting a keyboard for about 50USD ~5 years ago in the UK and I wanted to get the same thing here after it broke after 3 or so years and the price here was 240 USD. Shit that gets imported is super expensive.
@pie_flavor said in Should I get a Macbook?:
Check if it's upgradeable - it'd be cheaper to buy an SSD yourself and put it in the computer, probably.
Does not look like that's the case. Also I have to spend considerable time and energy in getting one that's authentic.
@pie_flavor said in Should I get a Macbook?:
If they are then I'd say just get the one with an SSD. Either way you want to end up with an SSD in your computer - it's a massive speedup for so many things.
Pure FOMO here. I don't wanna get the same old shit different color again. Might as well enjoy some goddamn speed on something I use a lot.
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@stillwater I mean, in that case, what's the price difference between the i7 256GB and the i5 512GB?
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@pie_flavor said in Should I get a Macbook?:
@stillwater I mean, in that case, what's the price difference between the i7 256GB and the i5 512GB?
About $75. The 512GB costs more.
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@stillwater if you think you'll at some point end up doing eight-core processing, then the i7 version would be a better deal because it is very unlikely you'll end up filling >75% of that 256GB drive. And if it's the exact same model with different specs, then you know it's upgradable.
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@pie_flavor said in Should I get a Macbook?:
@stillwater if you think you'll at some point end up doing eight-core processing, then the i7 version would be a better deal because it is very unlikely you'll end up filling >75% of that 256GB drive. And if it's the exact same model with different specs, then you know it's upgradable.
Haha I ain't gonna do eight core processing ever and 512GB is overkill for me so I'll have to just go with the cheaper i7/256 gigs I suppose.
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@pie_flavor said in Should I get a Macbook?:
Holy shit, twelve hundred dollars? Seriously? That's what I paid for this beast. How on earth does a middling computer like that cost >$1200?
Ultrabooks are more expensive than a comparable normal laptop, because of having to fit the same components in a smaller space I guess. If I look at my demands I want:
- ~13"
- Lightweight (<1.5kg)
- A bit of power to it
- Can run everything I need on the go
Those combined does drive prices up towards MacBook levels, regardless of manufacturer. Right now I could get a Dell XPS for a decent price. But I also have to add in the fact that I do need a Mac, and if I don't get a MacBook I'll need an iMac instead. Sure, I could get a full-featured gaming laptop for cheaper, but those are heavy (yours weigh 2.6kg for example), tend to be larger (15" or bigger) and have absolute shite in battery life. The opposite in what I need in a laptop, because one key use case for laptop for me is something that I can easily carry with me and do work on the bus for example.
I have tried doing that with my work laptop, but at 15" it's too big even if it otherwise is a lightweight model. My 13" MBA is however the perfect size for it. Small enough for comfortable use on the go, but not too small. Lightweight. Has (well, had) awesome battery life. And whine about Macs all you like, but they do pack powerful hardware into small spaces and keep the weight down.
I would still use my MBA on the go, but due to the fact the keyboard controller is broken and it now requires an external keyboard for full functionality it kinda makes that one a bit clunky to use on the go nowadays. (I can still use the keyboard, but I can't type the letters QWERTYUIO with it. :P )
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@atazhaia said in Should I get a Macbook?:
and have absolute shite in battery life.
If I disable the Nvidia GPU, decrease the resolution, a couple housekeeping things like that, then the battery jumps way the hell up. As it is it usually lasts me around 6hrs on perfectly adequate brightness without doing those things.
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I kinda wanted to have machines that both of you need for your use cases. I have a gaming laptop that I've hooked upto a 23 inch monitor for work and gaming, weighs about 2+ kilos and has a 15.6 inch screen. Doubles up as a second monitor. Now I need one to carry. It's hard to get portability and a beefy gaming machine in one. I wish someone figured out a way to do it. If it was not for the weight of my current laptop, I would have never thought about getting another one.
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@stillwater Funny, I've never actually cared about the weight of my laptop. I've just gotten used to it.
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@pie_flavor said in Should I get a Macbook?:
@stillwater Funny, I've never actually cared about the weight of my laptop. I've just gotten used to it.
I usually sit on the couch or on the edge of the bed or even at teh desk at extremely awkward postures and having 2 kgs on top of you gets unpleasant quickly.
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@stillwater not for me.
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After some careful thought, I figured I don't really need the 2-in-1. Might as well use that money on something else.
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@stillwater said in Should I get a Macbook?:
I kinda wanted to have machines that both of you need for your use cases. I have a gaming laptop that I've hooked upto a 23 inch monitor for work and gaming, weighs about 2+ kilos and has a 15.6 inch screen. Doubles up as a second monitor. Now I need one to carry. It's hard to get portability and a beefy gaming machine in one. I wish someone figured out a way to do it. If it was not for the weight of my current laptop, I would have never thought about getting another one.
There are lightweight laptops with gaming hardware, but very rare (and also expensive). There was an MSI one a couple years back I was tempted by. Atm I find Microsoft Surface Book 2 being the closest, having a GTX 1050 graphics card and weighing about 1.5kg for the 13" model. (GTX 1060 and 2kg for the 15" model.) But Surface is also quite expensive laptops.
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@atazhaia said in Should I get a Macbook?:
@stillwater said in Should I get a Macbook?:
I kinda wanted to have machines that both of you need for your use cases. I have a gaming laptop that I've hooked upto a 23 inch monitor for work and gaming, weighs about 2+ kilos and has a 15.6 inch screen. Doubles up as a second monitor. Now I need one to carry. It's hard to get portability and a beefy gaming machine in one. I wish someone figured out a way to do it. If it was not for the weight of my current laptop, I would have never thought about getting another one.
There are lightweight laptops with gaming hardware, but very rare (and also expensive). There was an MSI one a couple years back I was tempted by. Atm I find Microsoft Surface Book 2 being the closest, having a GTX 1050 graphics card and weighing about 1.5kg for the 13" model. (GTX 1060 and 2kg for the 15" model.) But Surface is also quite expensive laptops.
Oh yesssssssss. The surface book 2 looks like it has every damn thing I would expect out of a laptop but I'm not paying 2000 USD for a laptop. Unfuckingpossible.
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@stillwater Unless you absolutely can't live in 256 GB of space, take the SSD. It'll make everything so much better. You can add a USB hard drive later if you really need.
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@stillwater said in Should I get a Macbook?:
Have any of you used lenovo?
Yes; they're universally shitty.
@stillwater said in Should I get a Macbook?:
What's the catch here?
Lenovos are crap that'll break all the fucking time. Hell the X1 Carbon I had shipped broken.
It used "double-tab shift for caps lock" on its moron stupid keyboard designed by idiots, which is fine, but then it forgot to tell Windows 10 it used it so it was impossible to turn that misfeature off. Actually I think they actually implemented a built-in Windows 10 feature in firmware or something, then neglected provide any way to turn it off. Either way I flubbed the shift key often enough that that one flaw was enough to make the laptop practically useless without an external keyboard. Oh and if the shift thing wasn't bad enough, the positions of "delete" and "backspace" were reversed, so it was broken that way too. And I won't even get into how it had one of those Apple-style "touch-bars" in place of the function keys, goddamned was that one shitty laptop.
The Lenovo my current company gave me to use didn't have the moron stupid keyboard, but it did bluescreen three times a day due to faulty memory.
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@blakeyrat said in Should I get a Macbook?:
Hell the X1 Carbon I had shipped broken.
Like physically?
The only other thin enough laptop I can find is the Dell but apparently has shitty battery life. :(
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@stillwater said in Should I get a Macbook?:
Have any of you used lenovo?
My in-laws have a Lenovo with a 29GB SSD. Doesn't run the latest Windows 10, though.
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@stillwater said in Should I get a Macbook?:
Like physically?
By design.
It probably worked the way the designers intended it to, I suppose.
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The Dell reviews are extremely bad. Dell's outta the equation for now.
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@stillwater I know I posted this before, but I'm a big fan of Acer laptops.
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@atazhaia said in Should I get a Macbook?:
There was an MSI one a couple years back I was tempted by.
My main PC these days is an MSI GS43VR. I'm quite a fan of it. At home, I have it docked with a USB hub and HDMI cables and such so it's on a 40" 4K TV and real keyboard+mouse.
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@blakeyrat said in Should I get a Macbook?:
@stillwater I know I posted this before, but I'm a big fan of Acer laptops.
Yes I considered Acer, but getting the thin acer models that I'd probably want reliably in India is a long shot.
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@stillwater said in Should I get a Macbook?:
The Dell reviews are extremely bad. Dell's outta the equation for now.
One company I worked in (large one), used Dell laptops exclusively. There were problems with them all the time.
My laptop broke, again, so I went to hardware guys den with it. I walk in and see that they have scores of Dells waiting for repair, as always, so I ask the guy in charge why they keep buying this shit, year after year:"It's the support part of the deal. They sell us spare parts with huge discounts, plus every laptop may be exchanged for a new one for free. No one in management counts our work as costs, or consider work lost when stuff brakes."
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@mrl said in Should I get a Macbook?:
@stillwater said in Should I get a Macbook?:
The Dell reviews are extremely bad. Dell's outta the equation for now.
One company I worked in (large one), used Dell laptops exclusively. There were problems with them all the time.
My laptop broke, again, so I went to hardware guys den with it. I walk in and see that they have scores of Dells waiting for repair, as always, so I ask the guy in charge why they keep buying this shit, year after year:"It's the support part of the deal. They sell us spare parts with huge discounts, plus every laptop may be exchanged for a new one for free. No one in management counts our work as costs, or consider work lost when stuff brakes."
This is tantamount to fucking over people who buy their products.
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@stillwater said in Should I get a Macbook?:
This is tantamount to fucking over people who buy their products.
Well, perhaps for averagely reasonable person "spare parts 90% off, exchange every unit for free, no questions asked" sounds fishy, but for some managers it's indistinguishable from "savings report".
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@stillwater said in Should I get a Macbook?:
This is tantamount to fucking over people who buy their products.
We are talking about Apple again ?
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@blakeyrat Holy shit that's amazing. I was going to say that they take a while to break but when they break they break hard.
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@mrl said in Should I get a Macbook?:
@stillwater said in Should I get a Macbook?:
This is tantamount to fucking over people who buy their products.
Well, perhaps for averagely reasonable person "spare parts 90% off, exchange every unit for free, no questions asked" sounds fishy, but for some managers it's indistinguishable from "savings report".
Well if they get a free exchange, why are the things waiting for repair?
Also I love my Dell Lattitude about as much as I hated my previous Dell Inspiron (which was a lot).
Maybe the problem is they're using inspirons?
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@dangeruss said in Should I get a Macbook?:
@mrl said in Should I get a Macbook?:
@stillwater said in Should I get a Macbook?:
This is tantamount to fucking over people who buy their products.
Well, perhaps for averagely reasonable person "spare parts 90% off, exchange every unit for free, no questions asked" sounds fishy, but for some managers it's indistinguishable from "savings report".
Well if they get a free exchange, why are the things waiting for repair?
One free exchange for each unit during guarantee period. Exchange doesn't prolong guarantee.
So you do it when the unit is completely fucked and/or in the middle of guarantee period.Plus exchange takes time, a week minimum IIRC.
Their priority was to switch HDD to spare working unit, repairs came second and exchanges happened continously 'in the background'.
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Holy shit SSDs are fast AF! HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMGOMGOMGOMGASDSADAS!!!!!!
Visual studio starts up just like that. Unreal!
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@stillwater When I first upgraded my laptop with an SSD, I had a "first-world problems" ish experience of Steam starting before the wifi could connect, and failing to start because the computer is offline.
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@stillwater said in Should I get a Macbook?:
Holy shit SSDs are fast AF! HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMGOMGOMGOMGASDSADAS!!!!!!
Told you so.
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@blakeyrat said in Should I get a Macbook?:
@stillwater said in Should I get a Macbook?:
Holy shit SSDs are fast AF! HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMGOMGOMGOMGASDSADAS!!!!!!
Told you so.
I just cannot believe I've been missing out on this for so damn long. I'll take 256 gigs of SSD over a 2 TB HDD anyday. I cannot believe I don't have to click and wait for anything anymore ever.
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@hungrier said in Should I get a Macbook?:
@stillwater When I first upgraded my laptop with an SSD, I had a "first-world problems" ish experience of Steam starting before the wifi could connect, and failing to start because the computer is offline.
Oh I can imagine. I usually just click on VS and before it launches go grab something from the fridge. Today I was about to move from the chair when VS launched in like 3 seconds.
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@stillwater said in Should I get a Macbook?:
Holy shit SSDS is fast AF! HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMGOMGOMGOMGASDSADAS!!!!!!
Just change the capitalisation slightly, and replace the following word with a more appropriate one and we get...
Something nobody will say ever until the end of time.
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@atazhaia said in Should I get a Macbook?:
@stillwater said in Should I get a Macbook?:
Holy shit SSDS is fast AF! HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMGOMGOMGOMGASDSADAS!!!!!!
Just change the capitalisation slightly, and replace the following word with a more appropriate one and we get...
Something nobody will say ever until the end of time.Funny, but not true at all. Spectate has said pretty much that several times. Nobody else, though.
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@scarlet_manuka Well, he's kinda biased, though. Although maybe I should have specified it as "nobody sane".
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@stillwater said in Should I get a Macbook?:
After some careful thought, I figured I don't really need the 2-in-1. Might as well use that money on something else.
Yeah, personally, I have a Sony Flip as my daily driver. I've found I've never really Flipped it into tablet mode all that much after all.
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@stillwater said in Should I get a Macbook?:
just like that.
I'm not ashamed to admit I orgasmed a bit myself when I got my first SSD... :)
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@tsaukpaetra said in Should I get a Macbook?:
@stillwater said in Should I get a Macbook?:
just like that.
I'm not ashamed to admit I orgasmed a bit myself when I got my first SSD... :)
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@stillwater said in Should I get a Macbook?:
@tsaukpaetra said in Should I get a Macbook?:
@stillwater said in Should I get a Macbook?:
just like that.
I'm not ashamed to admit I orgasmed a bit myself when I got my first SSD... :)
Hey, I use protection! Windows Defender hasn't let me down yet!
(Not like I go out looking for infections...)
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@stillwater If you still are contemplating this thought, buy surface book instead.
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@nagesh read before you post.
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@gąska When i make silly post, I blame my state of art android phone...
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@nagesh it doesn't let you scroll past first post?
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Not sure where else to post it.
Maxed Out 15-Inch MacBook Pro Priced at $6,699 for 2.9GHz Chip, 32GB RAM and 4TB SSD
Apple's new MacBook Pro models come with faster processors, more maximum RAM, and higher capacity SSDs all aimed at Apple's professional...
I don't even.
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@stillwater Interesting. So that's my specs ($1200) + 3.75TB SSD ($1200) + 16GB RAM ($200) - 1TB HDD ($50). Logically about $2550. Oh yeah and my processor does 3.6GHz, so subtract maybe another $500 from that. I don't think the answer you get to that math equation is $6700.
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@pie_flavor the touchbar is a couple thousand extra because it's retina
