Windows is mentally preparing itself to install updates. Please wait.
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Update: Windows is mentally preparing itself to download the last 1% of the update:
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Sort of like when Steam allocates disk space, I guess?
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Update: Mee two!
Wait, why are my KB numbers different than yours?
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@tsaukpaetra https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4043454/windows-10-windows-server-update-history
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@lb_ said in Windows is mentally preparing itself to install updates. Please wait.:
@tsaukpaetra https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4043454/windows-10-windows-server-update-history
... Yes? I can click the "Learn more" link in that page too!
Besides, this is Windows 10 Pro, not Server.
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Meh.
Still not as good as Adobe.
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@el_heffe :smiling_face_with_open_mouth_closed_eyes:
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@tsaukpaetra said in Windows is mentally preparing itself to install updates. Please wait.:
Besides, this is Windows 10 Pro, not Server.
The link I posted is for both, the URL is misleading.
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@lb_ said in Windows is mentally preparing itself to install updates. Please wait.:
@tsaukpaetra said in Windows is mentally preparing itself to install updates. Please wait.:
Besides, this is Windows 10 Pro, not Server.
The link I posted is for both, the URL is misleading.
Ah, and so it is.
Still, the page itself does not have the KB listed, so my question stands. :D
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@el_heffe said in Windows is mentally preparing itself to install updates. Please wait.:
Meh.
Still not as good as Adobe.or this snippet at https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer :
<script> setTimeout("location.href = 'https://admdownload.adobe.com/bin/live/flashplayer29_xa_install.exe';", 10000); setTimeout(function(){ $("#progressBarDiv").hide(); $("#progressBarMessageDiv").show(); }, 10000); </script> <div class="Progressbar" id="progressBarMessageDiv" style="display: none;"> To proceed, open your download folder and locate the Adobe Flash Player installer file, for example “install_flashplayer[xxx].exe.”<!-- snip --></div> <div class="Progressbar" id="progressBarMessageDivIE" style="display: none;"><!-- snip --></div> <div class="Progressbar" id="progressBarDiv"> <p>Initializing</p> <p><img src="https://wwwimages2.adobe.com/downloadcenter/singlepage/live/images/progress_bar.gif" width="489" height="25" alt="Progress bar"></p></div>
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@marczellm said in Windows is mentally preparing itself to install updates. Please wait.:
or this snippet at https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer:
Responsive!
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Installing the update you asked me to install...
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97%...
98%...
99%...
100%...HEY DO YOU WANT TO INSTALL A UPDATES
(no joke, this is the screen I'm looking at right now:)
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@ben_lubar said in Windows is mentally preparing itself to install updates. Please wait.:
Installing the update you asked me to install...
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97%...
98%...
99%...
100%...HEY DO YOU WANT TO INSTALL A UPDATES
(no joke, this is the screen I'm looking at right now:)
Oh, you thought that "install" meant install install?No, for that you're going to need the web install, which will install the Downloader for the offline installer, which will unpack the full installer, which prepares the kid InstallShied wizard, which extracts the installer to install the installation package for the TrustedInstaller user to install the preparation package, which prepares to install the prepared package payload and will require a reboot because what is locking?
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@tsaukpaetra my computer still hasn't come back from the reboot. should I be worried?
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@ben_lubar said in Windows is mentally preparing itself to install updates. Please wait.:
@tsaukpaetra my computer still hasn't come back from the reboot. should I be worried?
Did you unplug your secondary monitor?
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remember guys: Windows is a service. It needs to be updated regularly.
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@tsaukpaetra said in Windows is mentally preparing itself to install updates. Please wait.:
@ben_lubar said in Windows is mentally preparing itself to install updates. Please wait.:
@tsaukpaetra my computer still hasn't come back from the reboot. should I be worried?
Did you unplug your secondary monitor?
What's a s...econdary monitor?
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@tsaukpaetra said in Windows is mentally preparing itself to install updates. Please wait.:
remember guys: Windows is a service. It needs to be updated regularly.
Just like most services, I need to manually fix it when the company providing the service fucks up.
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like two hours and a quarter now at least
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(it's still going)
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Got this ad on YouTube:
Man, I wish.
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WARNING: you currently have a PASSWORD but Microsoft recommends using YOUR FACE instead
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- Microsoft uninstalled VirtualBox's driver
- Doing a repair install of VirtualBox required downloading 100MB and doing yet another reboot.
- VT-x is not available (VERR_VMX_NO_VMX).
- I checked, and Hyper-V is disabled. Time to go back to the machine and figure out how to fix VT-x in the BIOS again.
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@ben_lubar said in Windows is mentally preparing itself to install updates. Please wait.:
- Microsoft uninstalled VirtualBox's driver
- Doing a repair install of VirtualBox required downloading 100MB and doing yet another reboot.
- VT-x is not available (VERR_VMX_NO_VMX).
- I checked, and Hyper-V is disabled. Time to go back to the machine and figure out how to fix VT-x in the BIOS again.
VT-x is still enabled in the BIOS. Did Microsoft put my computer into a VM like a rootkit would? I can't think of any other reason for VT-x not being available when I'm using my computer.
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I've rebooted so many times I must have negative uptime by this point.
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It turns out that Microsoft is using the rootkit method of making the user's OS into a VM.
And even more helpfully, you can't disable the feature unless you edit a registry key like this random Russian person says:
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06:20 bedtime! Just like Microsoft's healthy living standards presumably say I should have!
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@ben_lubar Interesting. Under "Device security", "Core isolation/Memory integrity" is off on my machine and it doesn't say it's managed by my Administrator. VirtualBox has been working fine.
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@ben_lubar said in Windows is mentally preparing itself to install updates. Please wait.:
WARNING: you currently have a PASSWORD but Microsoft recommends using YOUR FACE instead
Windows Hello is not necessarily biometrics. AFAIK PIN falls into that category, too.
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@kt_ PIN is so much more secure than password.
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@ben_lubar said in Windows is mentally preparing itself to install updates. Please wait.:
WARNING: you currently have a PASSWORD but Microsoft recommends using YOUR FACE instead
Did you get that project finished.
No. Remember that nasty car wreck where I went face first into the airbag?
Yea.
Windows took a month to recognize my face again.
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@xaade said in Windows is mentally preparing itself to install updates. Please wait.:
No. Remember that nasty car wreck where I went face first into the airbag?
Suuure.
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@gąska said in Windows is mentally preparing itself to install updates. Please wait.:
@kt_ PIN is so much more secure than password.
If you log in with your Microsoft ID account, yes it is.
Unfortunately.
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@kt_ care to elaborate?
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@gąska said in Windows is mentally preparing itself to install updates. Please wait.:
@kt_ care to elaborate?
If you use your Microsoft ID to log in and you use it on many different computers, then when your Microsoft ID gets compromised, not only does your account to Microsoft services get compromised -- your accounts on your devices get compromised, too.
PIN is local to a device. Like you know, a password used to be.
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@kt_ but that's a different kind of insecure than 108 vs 9030 search space, easily preventible by having only one computer per account.
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@gąska said in Windows is mentally preparing itself to install updates. Please wait.:
@kt_ but that's a different kind of insecure than 108 vs 9030 search space, easily preventible by having only one computer per account.
You want to create a separate Microsoft ID for every device you have?
Are you serious?
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@kt_ definitely a better idea than a shared one. The best case, of course, is having no account at all.
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@gąska said in Windows is mentally preparing itself to install updates. Please wait.:
@kt_ definitely a better idea than a shared one. The best case, of course, is having no account at all.
If someone gets access to my email, they have control over literally every account I have on every computer.
Gaining access to any one of my computers gives them access to my email inbox regardless of whether they use a PIN or a password to log in.
Here's the kicker: the only way to remotely access my computer is through one of two methods:
- A virus on my computer, in which case they already have access to my email.
- My Google account, which requires a password, an SMS authentication code, and a rate-limited PIN. And then they also need to log in using Windows authentication after that.
And guess what, once they have the first two things needed to access my Google account, they don't need access to my computer at all. So the only thing I'd change by going from a password to a PIN is that an attacker who already had remote access to my machine could log in more easily.
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@gąska said in Windows is mentally preparing itself to install updates. Please wait.:
@kt_ definitely a better idea than a shared one. The best case, of course, is having no account at all.
Yeah, another idea is to have a local account. You can't use the Store without an MS ID account, though.
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@kt_ you can use store with MS account while having the system account completely disconnected from your MS account. I'm doing it right now on two computers.
I mean, I could be doing it. I've yet to find a reason to use the store.
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@parody said in Windows is mentally preparing itself to install updates. Please wait.:
@ben_lubar Interesting. Under "Device security", "Core isolation/Memory integrity" is off on my machine and it doesn't say it's managed by my Administrator. VirtualBox has been working fine.
Which leads to
EDIT: but if I go there manually it is visible...?
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@gąska said in Windows is mentally preparing itself to install updates. Please wait.:
@kt_ you can use store with MS account while having the system account completely disconnected from your MS account. I'm doing it right now on two computers.
I mean, I could be doing it. I've yet to find a reason to use the store.
Linux.
Shooshing into a VM is much much simpler from a Ubuntu subsystem.
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@gąska Honestly, I kind of wish they really would kill Win32 and force everyone to use the store. Entire major classes of problems would no longer exist. It's clear that they want to, but apparently you're only allowed to do that if your name is Apple.
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@magus said in Windows is mentally preparing itself to install updates. Please wait.:
apparently you're only allowed to do that if your name is Apple
… and there's a shit load of developers and users out there who don't like that.
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@magus On Windows, given damn near any problem, you can google and find a program someone's already written to solve your problem. This is a chief benefit of the platform. And they're all Win32.
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@pie_flavor Yeah, and they'll all tell you to use some undocumented feature that both makes your application insecure and prone to break in the next major update. WOOHOO!
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@magus You are, of course, implying that features get broken in new updates.
Seriously. Almost any problem at all.