Assholedesk fucks are straining my nerves and wasting my time
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@topspin said in Assholedesk fucks are straining my nerves and wasting my time:
@hungrier You missed the following part:
Even if they have to code their own solution to support all platforms under the sun, even those with no reasonable widget toolkit, their implementation must contain enough hacks specific to the Windows platform that it'd still be easier to do: ....~20 years ago we were dealing with this in a flexible, multiple-platform-native way and those platforms included the Classic MacOS. I would have thought that the open-source folks would have made it a relatively standard thing by now. Ah, well.
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@parody said in Assholedesk fucks are straining my nerves and wasting my time:
I would have thought that the open-source folks would have made it a relatively standard thing by now
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@timebandit said in Assholedesk fucks are straining my nerves and wasting my time:
@parody said in Assholedesk fucks are straining my nerves and wasting my time:
I would have thought that the open-source folks would have made it a relatively standard thing by now
I know some such things exist, but you need to get Blender to use QT's file dialog. Also everyone else. Also help them deal with file references cross-platform (something we put a lot of work into but is something I've rarely seen). Ours abstracted this above the dialog itself.
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@gurth said in Assholedesk fucks are straining my nerves and wasting my time:
@sh_code said in Assholedesk fucks are straining my nerves and wasting my time:
that's when you press spacebar and start typing the name of that thing. and when you see it in the list, you glance 150 pixels to the right where its shortcut is listed, and then either click the entry, or press escape, and try out your newly learned/remembered shortcut ;)
(i still can't understand how is this not a standard thing in any and all (larger) software <3 )Because it would seriously impair the usability of any application whose primary job is to put text input from the keyboard onto the screen. Of the kind that a lot more people use than 3D editors, like, say, word processors and spreadsheets.
(Yes, of course you could handle it with some modifier key plus the spacebar. When I want to start an application, half the time I do so by hitting Command + spacebar and typing the beginning of the name. But plain spacebar would be rather awkward in most programs. Also, you’d need to standardise it between apps — perhaps some dedicated help key might be a good idea, except that software and hardware designers don’t seem to have been forward-thinking enough after the 1970s generation or so.)
you missed the point so spectacularly that i can't help myself but think it was fully trollintentional, but let me reply as if you were serious anyway:
applications have functions. as you might be aware (i assume from your previous comment), these functios sometimes have shortcuts.as you might NOT be aware (it seems), these shortcuts:
- often wildly differ between various programs even when they are for the same (or analogous) function
- are usually user-rebindable
none of which users seem to mind too much or be surprised about.
and I was talking about the function, not the shortcut blender chose for it.
if you need any other clarification, please just... go play with your lego instead until your dad comes home and tucks you into bed =D
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@sh_code said in Assholedesk fucks are straining my nerves and wasting my time:
replies to their tweet.
Heh, but they repeat theirself. GG, AutodeskHelp...
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@sh_code said in Assholedesk fucks are straining my nerves and wasting my time:
spacebar->flip n->enter (flip normals)
That's something I use often enough I really ought to assign a shortcut to it.
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@anonymous234 said in Assholedesk fucks are straining my nerves and wasting my time:
@sockpuppet7 said in Assholedesk fucks are straining my nerves and wasting my time:
@groaner blender is the VI of 3D editors
That's a great comparison. Technically very advanced, and with a unique interface that's completely meaningless and unusable at first, but (allegedly) very efficient after you learn it.
Yes, at least the subset (of both) that I use regularly, but full of relatively obscure features that I'm a pretty sure nobody (not even the devs) remembers without looking them up.
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@sh_code said in Assholedesk fucks are straining my nerves and wasting my time:
I was talking about the function, not the shortcut blender chose for it.
You could have made that a little more obvious. As your post stands, it reads as if you would like all programs to use the spacebar as a help key.
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@gurth said in Assholedesk fucks are straining my nerves and wasting my time:
@sh_code said in Assholedesk fucks are straining my nerves and wasting my time:
I was talking about the function, not the shortcut blender chose for it.
You could have made that a little more obvious. As your post stands, it reads as if you would like all programs to use the spacebar as a help key.
Wait! That's not what he meant?!?!??
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@tsaukpaetra yeah, had the same thought, so i copypasted the same reply to it as well ;)
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@gurth said in Assholedesk fucks are straining my nerves and wasting my time:
@sh_code said in Assholedesk fucks are straining my nerves and wasting my time:
I was talking about the function, not the shortcut blender chose for it.
You could have made that a little more obvious. As your post stands, it reads as if you would like all programs to use the spacebar as a help key.
must have been fun to observe you drive before you installed the obviousness addon into your GPS."on the next intersection, turn your car to the road that branches off left from the one you are currently on "
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@sh_code said in Assholedesk fucks are straining my nerves and wasting my time:
i hate VI with a passion.
100% EMACS is sooooo much better :)
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@sh_code said in Assholedesk fucks are straining my nerves and wasting my time:
must have been fun to observe you drive before you installed the obviousness addon into your GPS.
I don’t have a GPS. I also don’t have a car. Oh, and no driver’s licence.
But seeing as how you seem intent on being annoyed at me, I’ll point out that you seem to have missed the fact that I was actually agreeing with you about that help function you like so much. I was just being ic about your proposed choice of key to use for it, and now you’re being ic about me being ic …
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@topspin said in Assholedesk fucks are straining my nerves and wasting my time:
@hungrier You missed the following part:
Even if they have to code their own solution to support all platforms under the sun, even those with no reasonable widget toolkit, their implementation must contain enough hacks specific to the Windows platform that it'd still be easier to do:#ifdef WIN32 GetOpenFileName(...); #else DoUglyShittyBlenderOpenFileName(...); #endif
yeah, but thrn there's the thing i learned about yesterday, where at linking (or how is it called) one blender file into another makes the file you're choosing behave like a folder that seamlessly presents its whole scene hierarchy as nested files and folders, and it's pretty cool =D
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@gurth said in Assholedesk fucks are straining my nerves and wasting my time:
@sh_code said in Assholedesk fucks are straining my nerves and wasting my time:
must have been fun to observe you drive before you installed the obviousness addon into your GPS.
I don’t have a GPS. I also don’t have a car. Oh, and no driver’s licence.
But seeing as how you seem intent on being annoyed at me, I’ll point out that you seem to have missed the fact that I was actually agreeing with you about that help function you like so much. I was just being ic about your proposed choice of key to use for it, and now you’re being ic about me being ic …
originally my reply there was just the facepalm smiley, but then that joke jumped into my mind and it seemed too funny to pass up. there was no intention to be an asshole, just to amuse myself and possibly few other people too. have a nice day :)
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@sh_code Hmm. I don't understand what you said, and I don't understand why that justifies the horrible GUI.
Maybe both are related though.
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@gurth said in Assholedesk fucks are straining my nerves and wasting my time:
I was just being ic ... and now you’re being ic about me being ic …
Welcome! You must be new here!
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@sh_code said in Assholedesk fucks are straining my nerves and wasting my time:
@scholrlea said in Assholedesk fucks are straining my nerves and wasting my time:
@sh_code Don't hold back so much, @sh_code , tell us how you really feel.
it's in the replies to their tweet. enjoy
Well, at least someone took the time to notify them about a few of their problems.
In fairness, their API seems to work pretty well converting FBX to my rendering engine's native format, such that I've been able to automate most of the format conversion. To supplement that, I've found Ultimate Unwrap 3D to be pretty good at working with FBX and converting to other formats. A Pro license costs a hell of a lot less than $4k, too. With a few exceptions, it's enabled me to cut Blender out of the workflow.