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@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
Eating it sideways would make it a sandwich, but nobody does that, so it's not.
I think we need to define our terms. My understanding is that "sideways" is like this:
Bun on top and bottom, opening facing to the side. This would qualify as a sandwich, and is (IME) the common way to eat a hot dog.But there's also this:
with the opening facing up, and the bun on either side. Do people eat them this way (i.e. non-sandwich style)?
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@hungrier The bottom way is the only way I've ever heard of one of those being eaten. I mean, the bun is joined at the bottom, and you can put more toppings on it that way.
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Status: If it turns out that the 3+ hours I'm gonna spend on this modification today (plus the 2 hours doing the first half of today's work that I lost to a BIDS crash yesterday) doesn't actually help the problem I'm trying to fix, so help me...
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@rhywden said in The Official Status Thread:
@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
(Sugar is in everything in the US. Including, yes, the bread.)
Of course there's sugar in bread. Starch is a sugar, after all
I have highlighted a few key words, which you'll note rule starch out.
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@hungrier said in The Official Status Thread:
Bun on top and bottom, opening facing to the side. This would qualify as a sandwich, and is (IME) the common way to eat a hot dog.
I feel like I did back when I learned that some people think it's normal to remove your shirt before you take a dump, or stand up fully in order to wipe your ass afterward.
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@anotherusername If you had continued to read, for example, the Wikipedia article you'd have noticed the mention of "polysaccharides" of which starch is very much one. Also, starch exists in two types, one of which is soluble. Some forms are also crystalline...
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@rhywden said in The Official Status Thread:
Some forms are also crystalline...
Mmmm.... Crystal Starch.... my favorite....
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@anotherusername Likewise.
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@anonymous234 said in The Official Status Thread:
@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
so double check the ingredients before you go smearing peanut butter anywhere that your dog might try to lick it off.
You forgot the
Filed Under: Sadly, only a few of my own submissions were
horridclever enough to get accepted by SpinnWebe.
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@maciejasjmj said in The Official Status Thread:
@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
Hotdogs when consumed by turning them on their side and eaten as a sandwich.
Aren't most hot dogs not composed of two distinct pieces? Haven't had one for a while, but I think usually they don't fully slice the bun, just make a slit large enough to stuff the sausage in. ()
Also: sub sandwiches are not sandwiches by this definition.
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@hungrier are you saying that if I take a sandwich and rotate it 90 degrees it is no longer a sandwich? At what point does it stop being a sandwich? How about if I rotate it 30 degrees?
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@ben_lubar if a sandwich is in a box rotating based on the decay of radioactive isotopes then it is in a superposition of being both sandwich and not sandwich until someone collapses the waveform by eating it
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@rhywden said in The Official Status Thread:
If you had continued to read, for example, the Wikipedia article you'd have noticed the mention of "polysaccharides" of which starch is very much one.
I see,
Longer chains of sugars are called oligosaccharides or polysaccharides
Starch is made of sugars, that's correct. This doesn't mean starch is sugar.
I also see,
Monosaccharides in a closed-chain form can form glycosidic bonds with other monosaccharides, creating disaccharides (such as sucrose) and polysaccharides (such as starch).
Monosaccharides may be further converted into structural polysaccharides such as cellulose and pectin for cell wall construction or into energy reserves in the form of storage polysaccharides such as starch or inulin.
Again, those do not say that starch is sugar. They simply say that simple sugars (monosaccharides) can be bonded together to create starch.
@rhywden said in The Official Status Thread:
Also, starch exists in two types, one of which is soluble.
Then it's not sugar. Sugar is soluble; if starch is sugar, then all starch will be soluble, and it's observably not.
@rhywden said in The Official Status Thread:
Some forms are also crystalline...
Citation?
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@ben_lubar said in The Official Status Thread:
@maciejasjmj said in The Official Status Thread:
@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
Hotdogs when consumed by turning them on their side and eaten as a sandwich.
Aren't most hot dogs not composed of two distinct pieces? Haven't had one for a while, but I think usually they don't fully slice the bun, just make a slit large enough to stuff the sausage in. ()
Also: sub sandwiches are not sandwiches by this definition.
The definition allowed for them. Two distinct pieces of bread was never a requirement, although it tried to exclude weirdness such as burritos based on the filling (while I would exclude them based on the fact that they're wrapped in a tortilla, which does not meet my standard for "bread").
A sandwich is a single piece of bread or two pieces of bread(of roughly equal size) that and surrounds a filling on both the top and bottom as it is eaten, where the bottom of the sandwich is gripped by thumb(s) and the top is gripped by finger(s).
Where the sandwich is one (rather than two) pieces of bread, the filling must be typically found in two-bread sandwiches in the same form.
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@ben_lubar said in The Official Status Thread:
are you saying that if I take a sandwich and rotate it 90 degrees it is no longer a sandwich?
That's correct, it is not a sandwich if you eat it with the filling at right angles to your mouth opening. It's silly is what it is.
@ben_lubar said in The Official Status Thread:
At what point does it stop being a sandwich?
The point at which the filling falls out, or you try to eat it like that -- whichever comes first.
@ben_lubar said in The Official Status Thread:
How about if I rotate it 30 degrees?
Then it's only mostly a sandwich.
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Strained my SCM (sternocleidomastoid muscle) yesterday and now having weird visual disturbances (shimmering in my peripheral vision), similar to an ocular migraine. Can't go home until that clears up, of course.
Stupid body; don't keep me at work on a Friday!
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@anotherusername I can do a snapshot of one of my Organic Chemistry books for you (by Vollhardt/Schore) which is a bit of an authority in Germany on matters concerning Organic Chemistry.
And yes, "simple sugars" can be bonded together... to complex sugars. Or "multisugars" which is actually the literal translation of polysaccharide.
You're trying to use layman's definitions here. I'm using actual chemistry definitions.
And as for the crystalline form: Simply put some bread into the freezer. The white stuff that will flake out? That will be starch crystals.
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@rhywden Maybe there's some difference in translation, because in English I'm pretty sure those (which you're calling complex sugars) are almost exclusively referred to as "complex carbohydrates". They're no longer called sugars.
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@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
@rhywden Maybe there's some difference in translation, because in English I'm pretty sure those (which you're calling complex sugars) are almost exclusively referred to as "complex carbohydrates". They're no longer called sugars.
That was merely the first result, by the way.
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@rhywden the top Google search result for "polysugar" is that study, and the other top (relevant) results are either also that study, or other studies that list the same authors.
I'll admit that it seems to be not entirely wrong to call complex carbohydrates "sugars", but it's at least less right than it is to call them carbohydrates, at least as the terms are typically used in English. Is that better?
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@anotherusername Here are some more results:
And no, it's not better. In Chemistry we don't make a distinction between carbohydrates, sugar and saccharides. They're used interchangably. You may now continue to argue but that's the way it is in Chemistry. Period.
Just like there sometimes are a lot of names for the same compound - the IUPAC one, a more common one and a historical one. For instance, "Trichlormethane" is also "Chloroform", but also "Chloretheride" or "Methinchloride".
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@rhywden said in The Official Status Thread:
You may now continue to argue but that's the way it is in Chemistry. Period.
Status: Annoyed that the Status Thread is being used for arguments...
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Status: I wish for the future where during CSGO tournament intermissions, Twitch users don't spam chat with endless "DUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUDU".
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@gąska said in The Official Status Thread:
Twitch users don't spam chat with endless "DUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUDU".
Is that a meme or something?
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@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
@ben_lubar said in The Official Status Thread:
are you saying that if I take a sandwich and rotate it 90 degrees it is no longer a sandwich?
That's correct, it is not a sandwich if you eat it with the filling at right angles to your mouth opening. It's silly is what it is.
Interesting. We need some physicists to study the transformation invariants of foodness.
We do know that flipping is not one of them.
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Status: Trying to figure out why bit-shifting isn't actually bit shifting.
I'm trying to make a mask based on a variable so I can & it and then | it back with the results of a later calculation. So far I've gotten so far as to do this:
UE_LOG(LogTravel, Warning, TEXT("n: %x bit shift: %d"), (!((uint32)0xFF << (uint8)GateDirection)), (uint8)GateDirection);
Which outputs:
LogTravel:Warning: n: 0 bit shift: 16
I (think, if I'm mashing this out right) want it to say:
LogTravel:Warning: n: FF0000 bit shift: 16
Ugh, this is why I don't do things at the bit level...
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@tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
@gąska said in The Official Status Thread:
Twitch users don't spam chat with endless "DUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUDU".
Is that a meme or something?
Kind of. The intermission music sounds very much like that. You're probably gonna hear it
in a momentright now here: https://www.twitch.tv/eleaguetv
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@tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
@gąska said in The Official Status Thread:
Twitch users don't spam chat with endless "DUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUDU".
Is that a meme or something?
I'm pretty sure on Twitch everything is.
That place is the shitposting capital of the internet.
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@tsaukpaetra permalink of the song: https://clips.twitch.tv/BloodyCrowdedBeaverYee
Side note - I love Twitch clips URLs.
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@tsaukpaetra Evidently you have never heard Sandstorm by Darude.
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@gąska said in The Official Status Thread:
The intermission music sounds very much like that
Huh. I wouldn't have guessed that from the audio...
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@tsaukpaetra it's one of those things that you don't hear it, but after you read it, you always hear it. Chew soap, for example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rZD7AFoSPw
Excuse the stupid title. I have no way to edit it, and it's the only unedited version I could find in 5 seconds I've spent looking.
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@pie_flavor said in The Official Status Thread:
@tsaukpaetra Evidently you have never heard Sandstorm by Darude.
Yes, I have. But this doesn't sound anything like sandstorm, and I wouldn't have generated a string of onomatopoeia from that like that.
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@gąska said in The Official Status Thread:
@tsaukpaetra it's one of those things that you don't hear it, but after you read it, you always hear it. Chew soap, for example.
I Dunno, I clearly hear him saying "choose hope"...
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They are ALL going to prison. #TRUMPTRAIN
Joke's on them. Notice how they're still out? It's because the deep state always wins. PRAISE SOROS.
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Status: a while? It's been hours!
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@tsaukpaetra I think I follow you on the
((uint32)0xFF << (uint8)GateDirection)
part, but what's!
do? If it's a logical not operation, then I'd expect it to take the nonzero (true) argument you're giving it and return false (zero), which is what you're seeing.Does removing the
(!
and the corresponding)
produce the expected output?
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@anonymous234 That's still not true. Fisher independently make the space pen before anybody knew about the Apollo 1 disaster. NASA never requested it from them.
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@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
@tsaukpaetra I think I follow you on the
((uint32)0xFF << (uint8)GateDirection)
part, but what's!
do? If it's a logical not operation, then I'd expect it to take the nonzero (true) argument you're giving it and return false (zero), which is what you're seeing.Does removing the
(!
and the corresponding)
produce the expected output?I'm no longer at the office to try, but I bet it will do almost as I want, except all the bits will be inverted from what I want. Essentially I want to keep only the parts that aren't in the shifted range.
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Feeling like I'm on the edge of sickness.
WebMD suggests the following diagnoses in order:
Celiac Disease
Influenza
Cancer (more properly, a syndrome caused by cancer)
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@tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
@tsaukpaetra I think I follow you on the
((uint32)0xFF << (uint8)GateDirection)
part, but what's!
do? If it's a logical not operation, then I'd expect it to take the nonzero (true) argument you're giving it and return false (zero), which is what you're seeing.Does removing the
(!
and the corresponding)
produce the expected output?I'm no longer at the office to try, but I bet it will do almost as I want, except all the bits will be inverted from what I want. Essentially I want to keep only the parts that aren't in the shifted range.
I think you'll find that bitwise complementation is the
~
operator, and logical (boolean) inversion is!
. So I'm pretty sure~
would do what you want.
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@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
@tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
@tsaukpaetra I think I follow you on the
((uint32)0xFF << (uint8)GateDirection)
part, but what's!
do? If it's a logical not operation, then I'd expect it to take the nonzero (true) argument you're giving it and return false (zero), which is what you're seeing.Does removing the
(!
and the corresponding)
produce the expected output?I'm no longer at the office to try, but I bet it will do almost as I want, except all the bits will be inverted from what I want. Essentially I want to keep only the parts that aren't in the shifted range.
I think you'll find that bitwise complementation is the
~
operator, and logical (boolean) inversion is!
. So I'm pretty sure~
would do what you want.Will try!
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@blakeyrat said in The Official Status Thread:
Chews your friends? Chews sittin on the couch?
What am I supposed to be not-hearing here?
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@tsaukpaetra also, looking closer, your expected result of
FF0000
isn't inverted...0xFF << 16
should produceFF0000
. If you do invert the bits, assuming it's still a 32 bit int, that would produceFF00FFFF
.
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@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
@tsaukpaetra also, looking closer, your expected result of
FF0000
isn't inverted...0xFF << 16
should produceFF0000
. If you do invert the bits, assuming it's still a 32 bit int, that would produceFF00FFFF
.Right, that's what I want (I think), because I then And it with the original number and Or that with the modified part.
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@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
@tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
@tsaukpaetra I think I follow you on the
((uint32)0xFF << (uint8)GateDirection)
part, but what's!
do? If it's a logical not operation, then I'd expect it to take the nonzero (true) argument you're giving it and return false (zero), which is what you're seeing.Does removing the
(!
and the corresponding)
produce the expected output?I'm no longer at the office to try, but I bet it will do almost as I want, except all the bits will be inverted from what I want. Essentially I want to keep only the parts that aren't in the shifted range.
I think you'll find that bitwise complementation is the
~
operator, and logical (boolean) inversion is!
. So I'm pretty sure~
would do what you want.Beat me to it. I'm not sure what language that is, but
~
is the appropriate operator in all the languages I use at least somewhat regularly.
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@hardwaregeek said in The Official Status Thread:
@magus said in The Official Status Thread:
Status: I wish yesterday had been Friday. I don't want to be at work. But at least today is Friday.
Today is either pastry day or bagel day. I'm not sure yet which, because they skipped a week during the holidays, and I was out sick last Friday.
I are disappoint. I'm also still not entirely sure which day it was, because by the time I got to the office, there was nothing left. Nothing.
Unless you count one tiny piece of apple filling from something (which suggests pastries) and a few small containers of plain cream cheese (which suggests bagels, except we usually have many containers of flavored — strawberry, honey-nut, smoked salmon, garden veggie — cream cheese on bagel Fridays); the boxes were from Panera, which could be either.