Teh Offishal Wondows 10 Full Craters' Pupdate Thred
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@heterodox said in Teh Offishal Wondows 10 Full Craters' Pupdate Thred:
Interesting. I've noticed that share target but I don't have Cortana installed.
Found it; the Microsoft launcher added it. Not to say that Cortana may not add it too.
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@heterodox It seems most Microsoft apps can add it now, so it doesn't matter too much which ones you have installed.
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After the update a couple apps that are supposed to open minimized open as maximized. I'm trying to figure if Microsoft changed anything in regards to that, as the apps themselves aren't set to open maximized.
I sorta worry that they introduced macOS-like app restoring, where it will reopen all apps that was running on computer shutdown. And unlike macOS they didn't add an obvious way of disabling it if so.
Oh, and the startup chime thing I was talking about earlier happens on the login screen, I guess to tell me Windows is ready for login. It's also still mangled to hell, which it wasn't before the update.
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@atazhaia said in Teh Offishal Wondows 10 Full Craters' Pupdate Thred:
I sorta worry that they introduced macOS-like app restoring, where it will reopen all apps that was running on computer shutdown. And unlike macOS they didn't add an obvious way of disabling it if so.
The "Restart" option used to use
shutdown /r /t 0
but now it usesshutdown /g /t 0
, so yes.
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@lb_ Now to find out howe to change that... Also, TIL that the /t option can be set to up to 10 years.
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@atazhaia said in Teh Offishal Wondows 10 Full Craters' Pupdate Thred:
@lb_ Now to find out howe to change that... Also, TIL that the /t option can be set to up to 10 years.
That's interesting. When a restart is pending you typically can't kick off another one (you get "A system shutdown is in progress."). I wonder if you could schedule a restart for 10 years and never get an automatic restart again.
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@lb_ said in Teh Offishal Wondows 10 Full Craters' Pupdate Thred:
I have Cortana for Android installed
I did for a while. But noticed my battery drained significantly faster.
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@magus said in Teh Offishal Wondows 10 Full Craters' Pupdate Thred:
Some UWP apps just open as a minimum-sized top-bar, and when closed and re-opened, work fine.
I'd say that app has a bug.
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@dcon It happens to multiple apps by different developers. It could be each of their faults, but that seems unlikely.
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I figured out one of the other features the new update brings.
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Huh. Finally can see some of the info on where things are coming from.
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@heterodox said in Teh Offishal Wondows 10 Full Craters' Pupdate Thred:
That's interesting. When a restart is pending you typically can't kick off another one (you get "A system shutdown is in progress."). I wonder if you could schedule a restart for 10 years and never get an automatic restart again.
Incidentally, trying this out on one of my VMs just for fun and it certainly seems to be working, which is entertaining. There's a Windows 10 upgrade that's been sitting there for a couple days without moving.
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@heterodox said in Teh Offishal Wondows 10 Full Craters' Pupdate Thred:
There's a Windows 10 upgrade that's been sitting there for a couple days without moving.
On the other hand, my laptop has successfully (apparently) installed the
17091607 โ I'm not sure where I came up with 1709 โ update once a week, every week, for at least the last 3 weeks.
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@hardwaregeek ditto for my desktop. I'm really bummed out, too. I wish I could see ads for cortana on my computer.
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@hardwaregeek said in Teh Offishal Wondows 10 Full Craters' Pupdate Thred:
On the other hand, my laptop has successfully (apparently) installed the 1709 update once a week, every week, for at least the last 3 weeks.
See, that's why you shouldn't use open-sour software put together by teenagers in Mom's basement, total lack of QA.
Software should be designed by corporations, with Engineers and QA control personnel.
Even more when it's a very important part of the system, the one that keeps it up-to-date and secure.
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@bb36e said in Teh Offishal Wondows 10 Full Craters' Pupdate Thred:
I wish I could see ads for cortana on my computer.
I think I remember seeing it once, after installation round 1, but I dismissed it and haven't seen it since.
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Hay guys, my computer has good news! The (spring) Craters Pupdate is (still) on its way!
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@hardwaregeek said in Teh Offishal Wondows 10 Full Craters' Pupdate Thred:
@bb36e said in Teh Offishal Wondows 10 Full Craters' Pupdate Thred:
I wish I could see ads for cortana on my computer.
I think I remember seeing it once, after installation round 1, but I dismissed it and haven't seen it since.
The moment I see one of those (new VM), I r-click and disable notifications for that app.
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@twelvebaud Have you tried clicking 'check for updates'? Worked for me.
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@pie_flavor It says I'm up to date. I think it's got a problem with one of my hardware devices; when I force an install it gets stuck in the post-install (endless spinner at like 62% or so) and checking the log files later shows it was in the middle of installing device drivers but not making any progress.
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@hardwaregeek said in Teh Offishal Wondows 10 Full Craters' Pupdate Thred:
@heterodox said in Teh Offishal Wondows 10 Full Craters' Pupdate Thred:
There's a Windows 10 upgrade that's been sitting there for a couple days without moving.
On the other hand, my laptop has successfully (apparently) installed the
17091607 โ I'm not sure where I came up with 1709 โ update once a week, every week, for at least the last 3 weeks.It did it again. I finally decided to look at Windows Event Viewer to see what was going on. Windows says I don't have permission to install the update. The solution? Update to the latest version of Windows.
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@hardwaregeek said in Teh Offishal Wondows 10 Full Craters' Pupdate Thred:
@hardwaregeek said in Teh Offishal Wondows 10 Full Craters' Pupdate Thred:
@heterodox said in Teh Offishal Wondows 10 Full Craters' Pupdate Thred:
There's a Windows 10 upgrade that's been sitting there for a couple days without moving.
On the other hand, my laptop has successfully (apparently) installed the
17091607 โ I'm not sure where I came up with 1709 โ update once a week, every week, for at least the last 3 weeks.It did it again. I finally decided to look at Windows Event Viewer to see what was going on. Windows says I don't have permission to install the update. The solution? Update to the latest version of Windows.
So in other words, the solution to failing to install an update is to install that update? Makes sense.
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@hardwaregeek said in Teh Offishal Wondows 10 Full Craters' Pupdate Thred:
I finally decided to look at Windows Event Viewer to see what was going on. Windows says I don't have permission to install the update. The solution? Update to the latest version of Windows.
From day one, Wondows 10 has contained a new feature -- some sort of bizarre, random, Permissions Hellยฎ. For example, when doing a new, clean install of Wondows 10, the directory
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu
will sometimes, but not always, have its permissions set in a way that prevents the user from writing to that directory.That's bad enough by itself, but it then exposes a new problem -- when installing some programs, if the installer cannot create a Start Menu shortcut it aborts the entire installation.
Nice.
Since its my home computer, I have full access and I can just manually change the permissions to whatever I want. But still, Microsoft, WTF.
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@el_heffe said in Teh Offishal Wondows 10 Full Craters' Pupdate Thred:
That's bad enough by itself, but it then exposes a new problem -- when installing some programs, if the installer cannot create a Start Menu shortcut it aborts the entire installation.
It's a conspiracy - they want more apps in the Store!
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**siiigh**
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@twelvebaud All my machines updated to that when I clicked 'Check for updates'
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@twelvebaud yeah, mine looks like that too. Double check and make sure you're not using open source hardware, that may be breaking windows
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@hardwaregeek said in Teh Offishal Wondows 10 Full Craters' Pupdate Thred:
@hardwaregeek said in Teh Offishal Wondows 10 Full Craters' Pupdate Thred:
@heterodox said in Teh Offishal Wondows 10 Full Craters' Pupdate Thred:
There's a Windows 10 upgrade that's been sitting there for a couple days without moving.
On the other hand, my laptop has successfully (apparently) installed the
17091607 โ I'm not sure where I came up with 1709 โ update once a week, every week, for at least the last 3 weeks.It did it again. I finally decided to look at Windows Event Viewer to see what was going on. Windows says I don't have permission to install the update. The solution? Update to the latest version of Windows.
Round 6 (7? 8? whatever) today. I finally decided to whine about it to IT. (Filed the sort of ticket that ought to make them happy: Concise but detailed problem description, full error message (minus the XML junk) copy/pasted from Event Viewer, current OS and HW info from System Info.)
First response: You have admin rights; I don't know why it won't install. I'm going to punt to the team that handles Windows updates.
Second response: Looks like a known issue that we're still working with MS to figure out a solution. Keep working; we'll get back to you later to confirm whether it really is the same issue.
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Did you know? Preinstalled apps are still considered new!
Well... some of them...
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@hardwaregeek Not bad. Only one punt to get to the right team and you got a satisfactory answer. I'm jealous.
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@tsaukpaetra said in Teh Offishal Wondows 10 Full Craters' Pupdate Thred:
Did you know? Preinstalled apps are still considered new!
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Well... some of them...Yeah, apparently whoever wrote the Store's update routines at Microsoft doesn't know the difference between New and Updated. :/
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@parody said in Teh Offishal Wondows 10 Full Craters' Pupdate Thred:
@tsaukpaetra said in Teh Offishal Wondows 10 Full Craters' Pupdate Thred:
Did you know? Preinstalled apps are still considered new!
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Well... some of them...Yeah, apparently whoever wrote the Store's update routines at Microsoft doesn't know the difference between New and Updated. :/
Newly updated
. Duh.- Search for
New
- Found, Display
- ???
- Profit!
- Search for
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The setup experience is really accessible for blind people now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp2rhM8YUZY
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I and some friends have consistently noticed while playing first-person games that sometimes, Windows 10 Fall Creator's Update will just decide to keep moving the camera in whatever direction it was moving last. This seems to be related to when the mouse cursor is frozen on the screen and can't move moved until it disappears and reappears. It's happened to people with both USB and Bluetooth mice, and only on Fall Creator's Update, so we're pretty sure it's a Windows bug. Has anyone else experienced this?
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@lb_ I haven't had that happen to me, for whatever it's worth. (It's not something for which I've been looking, though.)
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@lb_ haven't noticed it on my laptop, but it could be because I usually don't get better than 15 FPS.