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@loopback0 sounds useful, what feature is that and is it available across both Thunderbird and iOS mail?
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@topspin said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
@loopback0 sounds useful, what feature is that and is it available across both Thunderbird and iOS mail?
iOS Mail and Outlook certainly support it. No idea about Thunderbird.
"Flag" in iOS, "Follow Up" in Outlook.Flagging for specific date/time might need Exchange though.
I don't really use specific dates, just flag it and then use the "Flagged" filter.
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@loopback0 said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
"Flag" in iOS
Ah yes, the orange thing. I sometimes do that for very import things, but rarely.
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@anonymous234 said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
a folder full of messages
messages as individual files in a set of foldersSo a hundred thousand tiny files? Ewwww.
I don't have a hundred thousand emails, so.... No?
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@loopback0 said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
iOS Mail and Outlook certainly support it. No idea about Thunderbird.
"Flag" in iOS, "Follow Up" in Outlook."Tag" in Thunderbird. I know if I "star" an email in either Gmail (phone) or Thunderbird, it shows up as "starred" on the other, but tags do not.
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@Zerosquare said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
For the last time, the kink thread is !
the last time?
something tells me you'll need to say that again.
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@HardwareGeek said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
"Tag" in Thunderbird. I know if I "star" an email in either Gmail (phone) or Thunderbird, it shows up as "starred" on the other, but tags do not.
ο€ in iOS or Outlook shows up as ο in Gmail.
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@loopback0 said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
@HardwareGeek said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
"Tag" in Thunderbird. I know if I "star" an email in either Gmail (phone) or Thunderbird, it shows up as "starred" on the other, but tags do not.
ο€ in iOS or Outlook shows up as ο in Gmail.
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@Luhmann said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
Edit: Impressive Nodebb for not showing it in the original post but parsing the quote correctly
You have to put a newline after the details tag before you'll get markdown interpretation.
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@topspin said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
Personally, if an email is marked unread, for me that means it requires my attention. Spam mails get deleted, emails I don't really care about and don't read but might still be relevant at some point so I can't delete them get marked as read. If I did read something and need to act on it but don't have the time right now, it gets marked as unread again so I know there's things left to do.
I'm at about 145 unread right now. It's mostly youtube notifications of videos I haven't watched yet. For some reason, I stopped watching most of them back in July or so but I still have myself convinced that I'm going to watch them someday.
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@boomzilla said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
You@HardwareGeek have to put a newline after the details tag before you'll get markdown interpretation.
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@Luhmann said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
@loopback0 said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
without the song
The only way to enjoy Hanson
Well, yes, of course. Hanson is much better without the music.
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@El_Heffe said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
Halon is much better without the music.
-gulp- I should hope so. it's pretty dreadful either wa-- ..... -blink- -reads again-
@El_Heffe said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
Hanson is much better without the music.
oh...... that's different. -exits stage right-
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@hungrier they're banning archivists? Fuck! If it's so damn expensive to maintain why not consign the servers to archive.org and let them handle it? Cut losses and the like.
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Because that would be a rational decision, which is considered a fireable offense at Yahoo?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
@hungrier they're banning archivists? Fuck! If it's so damn expensive to maintain why not consign the servers to archive.org and let them handle it? Cut losses and the like.
at this point with all that they've done to Yahoo Groups..... I'm assuming they have something to hide...
why else would they have the aggressive deletion timeframe? why else would they fuck up the data exports so you can't get it all? why else would they be so blind to how their platform is used?
no... there's something on there that they want destroyed without hope of migration....
What it is I don't know. could be porn.... could be something worse.....
Perhaps proof of what actually happened on that grassy knoll on November 12, 1963 in Dealey Plaza, Dallas, Texas, U.S....?
Does anoyone else spell out assassination and giggle because it's
Ass Ass I Nation
?view raw...
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@Vixen said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
could be something worse.....
E P S T E I N
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@loopback0 said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
@topspin said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
@loopback0 sounds useful, what feature is that and is it available across both Thunderbird and iOS mail?
iOS Mail and Outlook certainly support it. No idea about Thunderbird.
"Flag" in iOS, "Follow Up" in Outlook.Flagging for specific date/time might need Exchange though.
I don't really use specific dates, just flag it and then use the "Flagged" filter.Just tried it: Custom dates don't need Exchange.
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@Vixen said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
@hungrier they're banning archivists? Fuck! If it's so damn expensive to maintain why not consign the servers to archive.org and let them handle it? Cut losses and the like.
at this point with all that they've done to Yahoo Groups..... I'm assuming they have something to hide...
why else would they have the aggressive deletion timeframe? why else would they fuck up the data exports so you can't get it all? why else would they be so blind to how their platform is used?
Never underestimate the power of corporate stupidity.
Especially when Yahoo is involved.
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@Luhmann said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
@Vixen said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
could be something worse.....
B E N S T E I N
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@Zerosquare My favorite Yahoo decision was when they gave Mozilla a shitton of money and got nothing in return.
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@anonymous234 said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
@Zerosquare My favorite Yahoo decision was when they gave Mozilla a shitton of money and got nothing in return.
Between giving it to Mozilla and flushing it down the drain, I think the former is for the greater good.
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@topspin I dunno, if they flush it down the drain it has a chance of being picked up by mutant turtles and used to buy pizza, which is objectively more beneficial to society than whatever Mozilla would do
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@hungrier said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
@topspin I dunno, if they flush it down the drain it has a chance of being picked up by mutant turtles and used to buy pizza, which is objectively more beneficial to society than whatever Mozilla would do
Disagreed.
Posted from the only real browser, Firefox.
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@levicki
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@levicki said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
@topspin Talking about the ability to manually add custom search URL which Firefox to my knowledge doesn't have.
I guess you're right insofar that arbitrary URLs would require some manual work. As far as actual search engines go, you can find pretty much anything under the sun.
It even suggests I add https://what.thedailywtf.com/osd.xml, like has usable search.
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@levicki said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
which Firefox to my knowledge doesn't have.
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@topspin said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
It even suggests I add https://what.thedailywtf.com/osd.xml, like has usable search.
NodeBB is so brave to suggest adding itself to your search providers!
Edit: Oh look, Chrome actually added it implicitly!
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@loopback0 said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
@topspin said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
If I did read something and need to act on it but don't have the time right now, it gets
marked as unread againflagged for follow up so I know there's things left to do.I tried that (many years ago) and at that time the big problem was that the folder view of Outlook would not show differently a folder with flagged items vs. a folder with no flagged items, whereas it shows differently a folder with unread items (bold, with the number of unread next to it). To me that was enough to make the flags useless, I could not see at a glance where I had flagged items.
This might have changed now, but I doubt it, and this is the reason why I still use unread instead of flags.
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@remi I don't file things in folders unless they've been dealt with, so that doesn't really matter to me. As they're all in the Inbox, I just filter on Flagged emails.
edit: strictly most things stay in the Inbox anyway, but in the unlikely scenario something gets filed elsewhere it's only when it's dealt with.
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@remi said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
shows differently
Yeah, really wish they had a "conditional formatting" feature for those, like in Excel.
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@loopback0 said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
I don't file things in folders unless they've been dealt with
I get quite a few automated emails (build reports etc.) that I filter automatically to various folders otherwise my inbox would grow to unmanageable levels. So I like seeing at a glance which of those folders have received stuff that I need to look at (mostly to check that e.g. the build went through, and I even have a filter to mark the "success" ones as read so I only see the errors).
It's a bit of work to setup the filters correctly (and keep them up-to-date when e.g. the sender or the format of those mails change from time to time... grrr...), but it kind of automatically prioritises things (weekly reports that I get because they're mailed to almost everyone: very low priority, build errors: high priority etc.). Some folders may keep unread items for quite a long time because it's stuff that I don't actually care about, so I just purge it once in a while.
(of course to each his own, I'm not saying my way is better in any way, I'm just explaining why I can't really use flags)
@Tsaukpaetra said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
Yeah, really wish they had a "conditional formatting" feature for those, like in Excel.
That would be extra-neat, yes. Depending on the folders and mails I could make things appear in various styles.
But since the trend is to remove options, not to add them, that seems unlikely.
For example I just moved to Outlook 2016 (I think?) and I noticed that I can no longer hide some of the icons to switch between mail/calendar/tasks/etc. I only use mail and calendar, but I now have to keep all other options (at best I can hide them behind the
...
button, but not remove them). That's a tiny detail, but why have they chosen to remove that choice, I don't know.
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Speaking of enhancements, I'm every-so-slightly curious about Addons to Gmail.
This one seems interesting, looks like a kanban board for emails... What's this review?
Oh, Internet. ...
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
conditional formatting
And looking at that layout it's an older option even ...
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@Luhmann The bit hidden behind that window: "User defined fonts on each message" (my emphasis).
AFAICT this "view" stuff applies to how messages are shown in the list of messages inside a folder, not how a folder is shown in the list of folders. We were (at least, I was) discussing folders, not messages.
So unless I've misunderstood what you're showing, no, this isn't what we were looking for.
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@remi said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
So unless I've misunderstood what you're showing, no, this isn't what we were looking for.
Yeah. I was thinking more like "fill percentage of unread messages versus flags" kind of thing. Turn Red if unread message containing my name and "failure build".
That kind of thing.
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@levicki said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
That option shows up only if the site has:
Ah, I'd never really looked into the mechanics behind it.
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@levicki said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
Adding those without user's consent is quite annoying, there is an extension to prevent this.
adding them for use browser wide, yeah i might be tempted to agree.
adding it for the tab that is currently displaying the site that advertizes a search..... that's actually kind of handy.... so long as it goes away when i navigate to the next site, and that it's not the default, just one that's easily selected.
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@Vixen said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
@levicki said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
Adding those without user's consent is quite annoying, there is an extension to prevent this.
adding them for use browser wide, yeah i might be tempted to agree.
adding it for the tab that is currently displaying the site that advertizes a search..... that's actually kind of handy.... so long as it goes away when i navigate to the next site, and that it's not the default, just one that's easily selected.
In Chrome I need to type the host name in full before it suggests I can search the site, then I must press tab, and finally enter my search terms.
It's really not convenient or useful at all...
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In Opera you can just add them in the settings screen, but you can't remove or edit the default ones so Youtube has to be
yo
oryt
or something, instead ofy
becausey
is for Yahoo, that search engine that everyone's been using for the past decade.
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Who likes good news? Everyone? Then good news, everyone!
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@anonymous234 I think the owner of that owl blog I posted is going to have an apoplectic aneurysm
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A phone company in the UK that assigns phone numbers using the groups and now will lose all those phone designations when itβs deleted.
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@hungrier said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
In Opera you can just add them in the settings screen, but you can't remove or edit the default ones so Youtube has to be
yo
oryt
or something, instead ofy
becausey
is for Yahoo, that search engine that everyone's been using for the past decade.You can change that but it requires fiddling the install files, which depending on how Opera was installed might not be feasible for a normal user (but is there any organisation where Opera is installed system-wide for users that do not have admin rights? Given how niche Opera is, I don't think there must be many...).
I have this in my notes, I think it still works:
replace C:\Users\XXX\AppData\Local\Programs\Opera beta\VERSION\resources\default_partner_content.json by C:\Users\XXX\AppData\Roaming\Opera Software\Opera Next\siteprefs.json and delete C:\Users\XXX\AppData\Roaming\Opera Software\Opera Next\default_partner_content.json if it exists.
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@levicki said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
an obscure compression scheme lz4
Sure, it's nowhere near as long-toothed as
zip
, but shirley an 8-year-old protocol that's regularly used isn't obscure?
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@levicki I think I vaguely remember that at one point they had a mechanism which verified a signature and therefore didn't allow it, so yeah, that's definitely something that could happen any day. I also vaguely remember that for some reason this method works for all built-in search engines, except 'g' for Google, which I assume must be hard-coded (or maybe it's in another file). But these are just vague memories, I could be wrong.
In any case, I wasn't making a rant about anything, I was just pointing out some bit of useful and maybe not-so-well-known information. How you want to interpret that is your own business.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
Sure, it's nowhere near as long-toothed as zip, but shirley an 8-year-old protocol that's regularly used isn't obscure?
Obscurity doesn't necessarily have anything to do with age.
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@loopback0 said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
Sure, it's nowhere near as long-toothed as zip, but shirley an 8-year-old protocol that's regularly used isn't obscure?
Obscurity doesn't necessarily have anything to do with age.
It's the default compression scheme for ZFS, apparently, so obscurity is in the eye of the user I guess.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
@loopback0 said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Thanks Yahoo. Glad you're on top of things:
Sure, it's nowhere near as long-toothed as zip, but shirley an 8-year-old protocol that's regularly used isn't obscure?
Obscurity doesn't necessarily have anything to do with age.
It's the default compression scheme for ZFS, apparently, so obscurity is in the eye of the user I guess.
Nobody uses ZFS.