Now, that's some serious asskicking!
Best posts made by faoileag
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RE: Closed Poll: Do you have Discourse Syndrome
I am curious do you know of any, non native, mobile phone websites that are great at content production?
Actually, yes: the forum of www.heise.de. I can quote and I see the full editor window above the virtual keyboard.And if you look at the mobile experience of that forum, it is clear why: that forum knows when it is displayed / used on a smartphone and changes the layout accordingly.
Edit: I hope by "non native" you don't mean: "a website where no extra work has been done to render a useful experience on mobile". Because not going that extra mile in 2014 would be a wtf in itself.
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RE: Closed Poll: Do you have Discourse Syndrome
The seagull looks to be hitching a ride, more than anything
Weakening the enemy by providing extra weight while at the same time conserving one's own energy? That could be from Sun Tzu. Or Hanzo's "Book of Five Rings". -
RE: Closed Poll: Do you have Discourse Syndrome
It's obvious that you are doing it wrongtm! -
RE: Discourse DMZ
I was just pointing out that it seemed like @faoileag was claiming we were being professional to @eviltrout here was not accurate.
Disagree (even if that means I'm agreeing with me). We are just responding to him. He is defending Discourse, we are telling him where he is wrong.Actually, up until his last post, it was just a professional discussion, although he did get a lot of flak. But that comes with the job. And with the attitude.
Defending one's buggy project is one thing. Defending a buggy project by denying bugs or playing them down will get a far more fierce response. Because then the message is "I don't take you seriously, I don't even hear you, la,la,la,la,la".
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RE: Discourse DMZ
"Jul 24, 2013"
Good luck finding a bug report from July 24th, 2013 using your current method of tracking bugs.https://meta.discourse.org/category/bug?order=activity&ascending=true&status=open
That link is a very good example of why Discourse as a bug tracker is a bad idea, especially since it seems to be directed at @Matches suggestion to look for a bug created on a specific date.- The list is ordered by activity, not by creation date, and since activity can mean anything from post to like, that order is useless
- Even if the list were ordered by creation date, you would still have to mouse-over on every activity activity indicator to find the bug created on 2013-07-24.
Now, if for the bug category only you could customize the columns to show creator and creation date, fine. But such a customization is probably not possible with the current state of Discourse.
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RE: Another attempt at social engineering
But his short appearance was accompanied by a rant, so we are down to six more rants for @mikeTheLiar to become a TDWTF meme.
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RE: Discourse 1.0
I'm sure @presidentsdaughter will send us a message if she finds him.
Can't be difficult. El Cerrito doesn't look that big... but I still wonder what she will do. For some reason or other though, Carrie Fisher in the "Blues Brothers" popped up in my mind right now. -
RE: Goodbye TDWTF Forums
@Intercourse said:
@blakeyrat is?
Well, the @blakeyrat we experience here is sort of the persona the person behind @blakeyrat is adopting if I recall him correctly. So it's a bit difficult to tell whether he really is stupid about stuff or just trolling...@Intercourse said:
(he also loves being pinged by
threadstopics)
He's not the only one. @mikeTheLiar certainly falls into that group as well :-) -
RE: End Discourse
Interesting.
(that anyone uses Firefox, not that you can't repro)
I don't like Chrome andyum install iexplore
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RE: Today is Friday, the 13th
Just checked. Yup, "Fear of PHP Programming" is missing from this poll.
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RE: Today is Friday, the 13th
Relevance is something that cannot be measured algorithmically, nor objectively.
That's why moderators exist. They don't operate on algorithms. Their decisions can be so arbitrary that they would make a crypto-grade rng.make Jeff a moderator on CS. What would the result be?
Ok, that remark of mine about not being surprised if a chunk of these posts would be moderated away was a bit of hyperbole.Actually, I think Jeff as moderator on the old CS forum would have acted differently, as he wouldn't have been as involved with CS as with Discourse. This is his baby. He's working hard to make his vision of a more civilized discourse on the internet become a reality. It's more because of that vision and the way he's trying to enforce it that I dislike Discourse. The software on its own is buggy but improving, you can use it and it has a lot of modern features people find attractive. I can live with Discourse, but not necessarily with the idea behind it.
I'm not Jeff and frankly I'm not sure I'd want to see his thoughts, I think they would scare me
But if we get some VC, perhaps we could make a scary movie of them and become filthily rich? -
RE: Today is Friday, the 13th
@faoileag said:
You mean, like in Taar Korma Goat Curry?
[Mmmmm!][1]
[1]: http://www.thetiffinbox.ca/2012/01/taar-korma-royal-indian-recipe-for.html
And on a wooden table, too! Bravo, Sir! -
RE: Poll: Physical Exercise!!!
I'm missing "pear shaped", "rotund", "chubby" and, of course, "What is this physical exercise thing you are talking about?"
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RE: Report on my last poll topic
I can't even load it. Just hangs, and my browser maxes out a CPU core and never gets anywhere.
There is a whole chapter devoted on concurrency and on how not to render the browser unusable by long-running operations in David Herman's "Effective JavaScript".Filed under: hint
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RE: Discourse DMZ
Obviously everyone has different standards of quality, .... but you have to realize there is a serious difference of perspective between here and virtually every other discourse install in terms of "ermaghered it's overflowing with bugs."
Because mostly you have to be a software developer / tester to notice them. After all, if all you want to do is post a simple sentence with a bit of bold text, or a link, you can do that.But like the "normal" Windows XP user won't know if his machine is pwned or not, the "normal" Discourse user won't notice that private email addresses are leaked with some JSON requests.
However, that the normal user does not notice the bugs doesn't make the software less buggy.
That's not "different standards of quality". That's the Dunning-Kruger syndrome in action.
If you take the stand that "no other forum is complaining that much" as a sign of the maturity of Discourse, you are cheating yourself.
In much the same way that you would cheat yourself if you believed your web server was safe even though the company testing the security didn't do any penetration testing.
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RE: What is your browser's score?
We should make the standards standard, so you can test how standard your standard is.
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RE: Closed Poll: Do you have Discourse Syndrome
Well, look at the screenshot. How many px of usable space do you see there?
First, that looks suspiciously like landscape mode to me. Turn your phone by 90° and you will have more vertical real estate to display the editor in. In other words: if you insist on holding your phone in landscape mode, you are doing it wrong.Second, I see plenty of unused space where, e.g. the quote button could go, on the right side of the "cancel" button.
Third, if you insist that the editor should also be usable in landscape mode (as would be your right as a user of Discourse), then give the box a special "landscape-mode" layout: putting the buttons on the left will give you at least one more line in landscape-mode.
Finally: less padding will also give you more room for the main functionality. What the heck, why not go to extremes (as Apple did when they went from skeuomorph to extremely-reduced-flat) and simply make the editor window take the entire window (1 pixel border) with a "hamburger" somewhere for quote, cancel, reply, upload...?
It's up to you how you do it. Just do it.
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RE: Poll: Can I have polls within polls?
I voted for the one with the most @mikeTheLiar s in it.
I wonder... if you would create a nick like "Keith greets @mikeTheLiar", does @mikeTheLiar get a noticfication everytime you post something from that account? -
RE: Lighting logic
Anyway, I never wanted people to die-- how would I be able to call them idiots then?
"Those dead idiots..." only suggesting. -
RE: Groups
area_peoplewhodontsharethecountrywithanyotherTDWTFuser
Nice. Very descriptive. But please don't change the naming scheme in mid-name.area_people_who_dont_share_the_country_with_any_other_TDWTF_user
There. Better.
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RE: Groups
Those who cannot search are doomed to repeat conversations.
We are talking Discourse search here! -
RE: Closed Poll: Do you have Discourse Syndrome
Now if only there were a nice dragoness to enjoy those dragon parts
Then hopefully in due time we would see plenty of young dragons. You said their meat would be much more tender than that of older dragons... :evil_grin: -
RE: Groups
What is the purpose of this? If I join area_gbr can I find a new dealer for my tea habit?
I would assume that if you approached @Arantor with a "Hush! But do you have some Darjeeling First Flush? I'll pay any price!" he might be helpful... -
RE: Title is required *little wiggle*
Did Jeff work for MS's Windows Phone team? 'Cause adding "funny" responses instead of fixing real issues is remarkably similar to Jeff's approach for Discourse v1.0;
No, it's simply better to anticipate such questions and provide hand crafted answers for them than finding generated answers in the "funnies" sections of the internet.IIRC, in the beginning Siri, when asked what the best smartphone was, answered with a Samsung Galaxy model...
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RE: I think we made @CodingHorror mad
https://meta.discourse.org/t/compliance-with-eu-cookie-law/17727/3?u=matches
Actually, I'm going to save this as an image so that just in case somehow these posts get rebaked, this information can live on forever.
Actually, I think he thinks he is right. For Jeff, checking something like that would go like:- access Amazon
- check cookie
- compare against EU legislation
- completely not getting that he's not acceessing Amazon from EU
- Post opinion
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RE: Licence? What licence? All your links are belong to us!
As much as I agree with @Matches, I sometimes have the impression that you do not get what this really is about.
I don't think anyone in the history of the internet has ever been sued for copyright infringement for uploading an image to a forum in this manner
Again, this is not the user uploading copyrighted material to your site, this is your site downloading and distributing copyrighted material.More likely than not, a copyright holder will ask the image to be removed
Or will sue. This is what Perfect 10 vs. Google has all been about.I believe it's fair use.
Might be. And then again it might be not. You are not caching thumbnails, which, according to Perfect 10 vs. Google seems indeed to be covered by "fair use".But I do agree that Discourse should indicate to users that this behavior will occur, and that they can do X to work-around it.
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RE: Procurement also has it's WTF moments
So if the complaining supplier doesn't get the contract, and this is an official tender, he might feel the need to challenge the tender process in court, because making "quality" a criteria is clearly a discrimination against suplliers with poor quality.
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RE: The Official Status Thread
Well, there's that and there's also the fact that it's been so humid and it's all been so itchy so I'm letting the skin breathe.
Reaction from family afterwards: "Who are you and what have you been doing in our bathroom? You are not one of the plumbers, we know them all by now!!" -
RE: The NEW Official Unofficial Discourse bug tracker!
- Dogfooding
There're only so many working hours in a day. Discodevs need to ration development, community interaction, bugtracking and dogfooding using this limited budget.
Which is why they shouldn't have to waste time using a forum software as a bugtracker.Regarding dogfooding: using your own product is far more important in the early development stages, when the amount of serious malfunctions you can detect that way is very high.
- Community interaction
Discourse needs a place to track bugs and a place to discuss features.
Yes. "One" place to track bugs, and "one" place for discussion. Not "one" place for tracking bugs and discussion.That being said, I wouldn't mind if they pimped Discourse so that it could be used as a full-grown bug tracker. The infrastructure is there, all you need would be a couple of additional database fields for severity and importance and a special category that treats things slightly differently. And, voila!, you have a bug tracker where you can order topics by severity, or creation date, or reporter...
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RE: FileNotFoundStorage.com Design Document
Search only on the encrypted text and then only return the encrypted filename. You don't keep what they decrypt to because that would “compromise security”.
I was thinking along the same track - implement a full text search for the files and give the user the filename and last change date, but not the file.Since the files are regularly re-encrypted, this is a great feature - it works per spec ("User can search in files", "filenames of files with matching text are displayed to user"), while at the same time being completely useless since searching for "ca2cd0f00123b7d986ec8e0726585fb9" might yield a file or two on 2014-07-14, but not after the next re-encryption.
For added bite make the search results bookmarkable (with a table
<search_text> | <file_name> | <modification_date>
displaying the bookmarks) so that you have a "history" that is also completely useless after the next re-encryption. -
RE: FileNotFoundStorage.com Design Document
I think the domain name should be "WriteOnlyMemory.com"!
It's not as if write only memory would be a new idea.
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RE: Closed Poll: Do you have Discourse Syndrome
Also, I don't have access to an iOS device, and I don't currently have the inclination to spend the money on it.
Note @faoileag: try Discourse on the company's iPad come Monday.Edit: during lunch break, of course.
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RE: Feature Request: Cornify tag!
Bug: Posts by @Nagesh are visible to other users.
Rejected; not a bug, is a feature.Bug: individual users can't be muted in Discourse.
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RE: Password issue
Seriously? No confirmation box??
What for? If you type it wrong, just ask for another password-reset email. -
RE: Closed Poll: Do you have Discourse Syndrome
Sure you can! Just write "debugger;" in the source code and you'll create a breakpoint. Don't forget to check in code littered with them; the next developer to debug will be oh so glad you did half the work for them :)
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RE: Brazil is out!
Why are you still up? Is there a public holiday in India tomorrow?
Filed under: today for you
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RE: Brazil is out!
Indian developers are paid by number of contributions to TDWTF and not by number of lines coded ??
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RE: I'm still a grumpy cat: a final plea to Alex
I don't know how Facebook works (I don't use it), but I've seen infiniscroll on other sites, and it wasn't nowhere near as annoying as it's on Discourse
That might be due to the fact that Discourse unloads posts higher up in the stream as soons as they are far away enough from the current viewport. AFAIK, Discourse is the only software that does that.And that behaviour works fundamentally against how we have used web pages for the last two decades: reach bottom of page, use scrollbar to go back to top of page fast.
Discourse forces you to use the go up button. And it forces a lot of other ideas behind it onto you as well. As a lot of other people have already said: we come here for fun. Not for learning how to use a new software. That in my eyes is the best explanation for the strong reactions Discourse provokes.
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RE: I'm still a grumpy cat: a final plea to Alex
The part that really seems to throw it is usernames; @faoileag appears to be the Worst of the Worst for this, as it really throws the TTS engine, pushing it back into “spell it out” mode. (Some of the time. Not consistently.)
Can't say I blame the engine. I'm not even sure I know how to pronounce it...Filed under: speech is not the best method to pass around email addresses anyway
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RE: There's a meta question if ever I saw one
I will now post on a public forum. Dear god, you mean anyone can read this‽
Taking the amount of "remove from search results" requests google is getting right now, one cannot help but get the impression that it indeed does surprise a lot of people that what they have said publicly might be publicly available. -
RE: There's a meta question if ever I saw one
I will now post on a public forum. Dear god, you mean anyone can read this‽
Wow, you've used sarcasm markup! Well done, Sir!Filed under: not that I wouldn't have noticed if you had not
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RE: Poll: Blacklisted for Driverless Cars
There can be only one Big Red Button tm.
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RE: I'm still a grumpy cat: a final plea to Alex
@Lorne_Kates said:
So to summarize:
- Optional pagination, on by default
- Import all forum content
- Duplicate the UI to reduce change shock (but improve/expand on it)
- Duplicate forum functions, especially those highlighted (email format, date/time stamp, post count, nested quotes)
- Fire or Ban Jeff Atwood
- Bug-free-ish experience.
I would like to add one further point:7) make it usable for people who do not have javascript turned on
That is, provide a good-ole CGI interface for registering, logging in, posting and replying.
Because the absence of that is another reason you are loosing community members (in this case Jim the Tool).
Filed under: another ground for implementation would be to make Discourse more accessible.