Cisco: Connect Cloud



  • Cisco Connect Cloud:

    link


    The gist of the thread is:

    1. Cisco had Auto-update firmware enabled on routers by default.
    2. They pushed a new firmware that's "Cloud enabled".
    3. This (somehow) disconnected people from the internet .
    4. When they try to log in on their routeres, they are required to make a "cloud" account, where cisco reserves the right to record their internet history (and so on)..
    5. People is justfiably pissed

      6...?
    6. PROFIT!!!



      (BONUS WTF: if you downgrade your to pre "cloud" firmware you won't get any new FW updates)


  • Brillant, innit? I was just looking around to replace my Wifi router or whatever it's called, but guess which brand just disappeared from the list?

    Fortunately, for those with Cisco routers, there is always OpenWRT and DD-WRT.



  •  So it's already starting... What, ten years from now we'll have no other choice than to have all our IT hijacked into "the cloud" because there'll be no offline software anymore, including OSes? Stupidest idea ever, oh, how much I'm gonna hate that world.

    </genuinely_upset_and_worried>

     

    also,

    @swayde said:

    7. PROFIT!!!

    only in the Monsters, inc. world, I suppose. And hope. Let them crash and burn and go bankrupt so maybe other companies realize we want OUR technology to be OUR.



  • @SEMI-HYBRID code said:

    Let them crash and burn and go bankrupt so maybe other companies realize we want OUR technology to be OUR.

    The sysadmins I have to deal with at one of my client's office are so bad, so unpleasant, so incompetent, that I would gladly deal with The Cloud instead, even if I have no idea how it will turn out. Can't be worse. Those guys need 1 month to deliver a vanilla Windows Server virtual machine and another two weeks or so to fix basic problems in that machine, such as having two virtual network adapters with the same IP (!!!). Meanwhile they have plenty of time to rename service accounts without warning anyone or disabling network ACL that allows an application server to talk to its database server, all because of "security standards".

    Also they are ugly and they wear cheap suits, probably they think it makes them look important but they should know that if you can't spend at least $1000 on a suit it's better not to wear one otherwise you look like a washed out car salesman getting married for the 3rd time in Vegas with a derelict former beauty queen called Marla. Bunch of polyester-clad ping monkeys.



  • @swayde said:

    3. This (somehow) disconnected people from the internet .
     

    They aren't disconnected from the internet.  The only way to avoid the Cloud-based login screen is to (manually) disconnect from the internet.



  • @Speakerphone Dude said:

    Those guys need 1 month to deliver a vanilla Windows Server virtual machine and another two weeks or so to fix basic problems in that machine, such as having two virtual network adapters with the same IP (!!!).

     One of our customers requires 30 days' notice for a firewall change.

     Oddly, when they (invariably) do it wrong, they manage to fix it (presumably with a firewall change) in just a few hours.

     



  • @TGV said:

    Fortunately, for those with Cisco routers, there is always OpenWRT and DD-WRT.


    Unfortunately not for the affected models...

    <a href=http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=155443&highlight=ea4500> http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=155443&highlight=ea4500

    @hymie said:

    They aren't disconnected from the internet. The only way to avoid the Cloud-based login screen is to (manually) disconnect from the internet.


    some of them lost connection to the internet (presumably during the FW upgrade), that was the reason they tried to log in...

    Do i really have to craft the links manually ?!


    And i must say i love the fact that i get e-mail notifications about my own posts -_-... (and the tag selector box is something .. special ...)



  • @swayde said:

    4. When they try to log in on their routers, they are required to make a "cloud" account
     

    What if the router isn't internet-connected and they're trying to diagnose connectivity failure? 



  • Fuck Cisco.  They make their shit so godamn obfuscated that you have to pay for classes to pass the certifications that you pay for so that you can get paid by an employer.  The employer gets incentives to hire more certified laborers.  You will not be paid accordingly, because your wages have been brought down by the flood of certs gained from memorizing dumps.

    Everyone makes money except the employee and the customer.  They get fucked.



  • Never mind the spying on everybody part. Getting the network (security) setting from the cloud... I mean, what could possibly go wrong?



  •  My ISP's routermodem is a cisco.

    I am frightend now.



  • I have an ancient linksys router. It's a strange day when ancient hardware prevents WTFs



  • @Mcoder said:

    Never mind the spying on everybody part. Getting the network (security) setting from the cloud... I mean, what could possibly go wrong?
     

    It's not a fucking "cloud", it's a goddamn server farm.

     



  • @Zylon said:

    It's not a fucking "cloud", it's a goddamn server farm.

    Are you sure? How can you tell?



  • @boomzilla said:

    @Zylon said:
    It's not a fucking "cloud", it's a goddamn server farm.
    Are you sure? How can you tell?
    "Is your off-site solution pissing (on you|you off)" is probably a good indicator.



  • @PJH said:

    @boomzilla said:
    @Zylon said:
    It's not a fucking "cloud", it's a goddamn server farm.

    Are you sure? How can you tell?

    "Is your off-site solution pissing (on you|you off)" is probably a good indicator.

    But maybe it's just a single server. Or multiple server farms. Or a botnet. The point is that you don't really know. Or even need to know. Which is why the cloud metaphor (as used in diagrams for...uh...as long as I've seen diagrams that include the Internet) actually makes sense here.



  • @boomzilla said:

    Which is why the cloud metaphor (as used in diagrams for...uh...as long as I've
    seen diagrams that include the Internet) actually makes sense here.
    I normally put legs and a head on it. And write 'sheep' in the middle of it. Not had any complaints about my whiteboard drawings yet...



  • @PJH said:

    @boomzilla said:
    Which is why the cloud metaphor (as used in diagrams for...uh...as long as I've
    seen diagrams that include the Internet) actually makes sense here.
    I normally put legs and a head on it. And write 'sheep' in the middle of it. Not had any complaints about my whiteboard drawings yet...

    It's because people fall asleep counting your diagrams



  • @PJH said:

    I normally put legs and a head on it. And write 'sheep' in the middle of it. Not had any complaints about my whiteboard drawings yet...
     

    Cue sheeple joke.



  • @PJH said:

    I normally put legs and a head on it. And write 'sheep' in the middle of it. Not had any complaints about my whiteboard drawings yet...
    I dare you: next time you do this for an audience who's seen you do it before, write "capybara" in the middle instead.


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