Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence?



  • At my college, I saw a sign advertising some movie being shown as part of a program about Ghandi. The WTF was that this sign seemed to have been screen-grabbed from MS Word (it even had red squiggly underlines!) and then printed out. Unfortunately, I never thought to take a picture of it (and I can't find my microSD to USB adapter anyway). This was about four days ago.

    Today I'm working on a grad school research assignment for sophomore seminar, and I'm looking into RIT's Interactive Games and Media department. This is their curriculum map. I can't decide whether the bigger WTF is the image itself, or the fact that it's the second one I've seen in a week.

    Edit: You know what I love? Editing link HTML manually because the editor broke. Can't get enough of it.



  • The third time it happens you'll know it's management action. 



  • Could you perhaps take a screenshot of the page, paste it into word, upload the word doc to a website of your choice, and post a link to that here? That would really help, yeah.



  •  I wonder what the suggestion was to correct “required”. “optional”?

    @TarquinWJ said:

    Could you perhaps take a screenshot of the page, paste it into word, upload the word doc to a website of your choice, and post a link to that here? That would really help, yeah.
    No, it needs to be printed out and put on a wood table and then that needs to be photographed and then posted to a Web site.



  • @curtmack said:

    This is their curriculum map. I can't decide whether the bigger WTF is the image itself, or the fact that it's the second one I've seen in a week.
     

    Looks pretty normal to me for academia. Academics like silly WTFy diagrams.



  • @Nyquist said:

    Looks pretty normal to me for academia. Academics like silly WTFy diagrams.

    And green squiggly underlines, too.



  • @DaveK said:

    The third time it happens you'll know it's management action. 

     

    Actually the quote is "third time is enemy action" - from Diamonds are Forever (the book) . In this case not much difference between the enemy and management? :)



  • @toth said:

    @Nyquist said:
    Looks pretty normal to me for academia. Academics like silly WTFy diagrams.

    And green squiggly underlines, too.

    And JPEG screenshots.



  • @Zemm said:

    @DaveK said:

    The third time it happens you'll know it's management action. 

     

    Actually the quote is "third time is enemy action" - from Diamonds are Forever (the book) . In this case not much difference between the enemy and management? :)

    Yeh, that was the point.  Sometimes a joke is more subtle when you don't actually spell it right out, y'know?




  •  Actually I think it's OpenOffice.org Draw that's at fault here. At least the link the OP posted can have very well been made in that program.

     It's a real WTF. If you export your file to png for example, it by default leaves the spellcheck squiggles in. If you first do Select-All and the export your selection, it works without the squiggles.



  • @RogerWilco said:

     Actually I think it's OpenOffice.org Draw that's at fault here. At least the link the OP posted can have very well been made in that program.

    OpenOffice.org has grammar check? Or what else are the green squiggles for?



  • @RogerWilco said:

     Actually I think it's OpenOffice.org Draw
     

    Openoffice has sinusoid underlines for errors.

    MS Office  has sawtooth underlines.

    The picture shows sawtooth underlines.



  • @dhromed said:

    @RogerWilco said:

     Actually I think it's OpenOffice.org Draw
     

    Openoffice has sinusoid underlines for errors.

    MS Office  has sawtooth underlines.

    The picture shows sawtooth underlines.

    This is the sort of pedantry that keeps me coming back here.  Aces, good sir.



  • @dhromed said:

    @RogerWilco said:

     Actually I think it's OpenOffice.org Draw
     

    Openoffice has sinusoid underlines for errors.

    MS Office  has sawtooth underlines.

    The picture shows sawtooth underlines.

    You win the internets. I use neither enough to know the difference. Still doesn't make OO.org's behaviour any less of a WTF. Maybe Word has something similar, I always say that Oo.org mimics it too much.



  • @Zemm said:

    Actually the quote is "third time is enemy action" - from Diamonds are Forever (the book) . In this case not much difference between the enemy and management? :)

    Goldfinger (the book). I never read Diamonds are Forever but remembered the quote, so I checked.



  • @bannedfromcoding said:

    @Zemm said:

    Actually the quote is "third time is enemy action" - from Diamonds are Forever (the book) . In this case not much difference between the enemy and management? :)

    Goldfinger (the book). I never read Diamonds are Forever but remembered the quote, so I checked.

     

     

    Ah Mr Bond. You have seen through my mis-remembering.

    (My wife got me the 14 book box set for Christmas a few years ago and they are all mixing up in my head.)



  •  TRWTF is usuing spellin and grammer checkors.



  • @RogerWilco said:

    If you export your file to png for example, it by default leaves the spellcheck squiggles in.
     

    Arr... They'd fixed that. Now they've broken it again.

    Sometimes distinct branches for new versions doesn't work.



  • @Zemm said:

    @bannedfromcoding said:

    @Zemm said:

    Actually the quote is "third time is enemy action" - from Diamonds are Forever (the book) . In this case not much difference between the enemy and management? :)

    Goldfinger (the book). I never read Diamonds are Forever but remembered the quote, so I checked.

     

     

    Ah Mr Bond. You have seen through my mis-remembering.

    No, no, no, no, no, no, no, that won't do at all.  You were supposed to respond

    Do you expect me to remember which book that quote came from?

    and then he was supposed to reply

    No, Mr. Bond.  I expect you to die.
     



  • @DaveK said:

    No, no, no, no, no, no, no, that won't do at all.  You were supposed to respond

    Do you expect me to remember which book that quote came from?

    and then he was supposed to reply

    No, Mr. Bond.  I expect you to die.
     

     

    Life: full of sad disappointment.



  • @bstorer said:

    This is the sort of pedantry that keeps me coming back here.  Aces, good sir.
     

    I also scored nearly 100% on the Arial or Helvetica? test, and a full 100% on an interesting online sort-the-hues test, where you'd get like 30 small squares of a random hue which you had to sort spectrally*, and each level decreased the saturation.

     

    *) save of course for magenta, which is not in the visible spectrum and thus an entirely virtual color.



  • @dhromed said:

    I also scored nearly 100% on the Arial or Helvetica? test
     

    Cant believe I hadn't seen that before... just googled it. That is epic. I sent it to our graphic designer to see if he passes :p



  • @dhromed said:

    @DaveK said:

    No, no, no, no, no, no, no, that won't do at all.  You were supposed to respond

    Do you expect me to remember which book that quote came from?

    and then he was supposed to reply

    No, Mr. Bond.  I expect you to die.
     

     

    Life: full of sad disappointment.

     POTW. Excuse me while I drain the tea out of my keyboard..



  •  @curtmack said:

    At my college, I saw a sign advertising some movie being shown as part of a program about Ghandi. The WTF was that this sign seemed to have been screen-grabbed from MS Word (it even had red squiggly underlines!) and then printed out. Unfortunately, I never thought to take a picture of it (and I can't find my microSD to USB adapter anyway). This was about four days ago.

     

    That's Gandhi, Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi.

    [/nonviolent pedantry]



  • @Nyquist said:

    @dhromed said:

    I also scored nearly 100% on the Arial or Helvetica? test
     

    Cant believe I hadn't seen that before... just googled it. That is epic. I sent it to our graphic designer to see if he passes :p

     

    I like how the Microsoft hatred is so strong that a font that is admittedly nearly-identical to an existing font is decreed "inferior" just because Microsoft was involved in its creation.

    Either that, or people who give a crap about fonts are all crazy. The truth is probably somewhere inbetween.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    @Nyquist said:

    @dhromed said:

    I also scored nearly 100% on the Arial or Helvetica? test
     

    Cant believe I hadn't seen that before... just googled it. That is epic. I sent it to our graphic designer to see if he passes :p

     

    I like how the Microsoft hatred is so strong that a font that is admittedly nearly-identical to an existing font is decreed "inferior" just because Microsoft was involved in its creation.

    The typeface predates Microsoft's involvement, as does the hatred.  The decision by Microsoft to go with Arial over Helvetica just threw gas on the fire.@blakeyrat said:

    Either that, or people who give a crap about fonts are all crazy.

      Yeah, pretty much.  Seriously, this is like a holy war in the world of typography.  Good thing we programmers only argue about important things, like brace style or 0-based indexing.

     



  • @DaveK said:

    No, no, no, no, no, no, no, that won't do at all.  You were supposed to respond

    Do you expect me to remember which book that quote came from?

    and then he was supposed to reply

    No, Mr. Bond.  I expect you to die.
     

     

    At least you didn't mention a centrifuge...



  • @Nyquist said:

    I sent it to our graphic designer to see if he passes :p
     

    Ours wouldn't. The company used Helvetica for their name; we had a big printing contract and he did all the text in Arial,  including the branding.

    Seeing the samples just before the client was to see them to sign them off, I pointed out that the company logo was using the wrong font (the 'G' was the most glaring difference).

    Fortunately the client didn't notice the difference either and signed off. I'm happy to say that the font was fixed before the print run. (If the client had noticed we would of course have had to do another round of sample production and signoff.)



  • @Watson said:

    Ours wouldn't. The company used Helvetica for their name; we had a big printing contract and he did all the text in Arial,  including the branding.
    Whenever I see corporate workmarks set entirely in Helvetica, I think about how lazy and uninspired their graphic designer must have been. It’s the cliché of modern typography: “When you have nothing to say, say it with Helvetica.”

    On the other hand, when I see corporate wordmarks set entirely in Arial, I get the urge to slap somebody in the face. At least Helvetica isn’t a bad typeface in and of itself.



  • @snover said:

    @Watson said:

    Ours wouldn't. The company used Helvetica for their name; we had a big printing contract and he did all the text in Arial,  including the branding.
    Whenever I see corporate workmarks set entirely in Helvetica, I think about how lazy and uninspired their graphic designer must have been. It’s the cliché of modern typography: “When you have nothing to say, say it with Helvetica.”

    On the other hand, when I see corporate wordmarks set entirely in Arial, I get the urge to slap somebody in the face. At least Helvetica isn’t a bad typeface in and of itself.

     

    Comparison of the fonts from an engineer's point of view:

    Arial - Readable. Looks ok I guess.

    Helvetica - Readable. Looks ok I guess.



  • @snover said:

    @Watson said:
    Ours wouldn't. The company used Helvetica for their name; we had a big printing contract and he did all the text in Arial,  including the branding.
    Whenever I see corporate workmarks set entirely in Helvetica, I think about how lazy and uninspired their graphic designer must have been. It’s the cliché of modern typography: “When you have nothing to say, say it with Helvetica.”

    On the other hand, when I see corporate wordmarks set entirely in Arial, I get the urge to slap somebody in the face. At least Helvetica isn’t a bad typeface in and of itself.

    All of my company letterhead and business cards are in comic sans and that's the way I like it.  There's nothing wrong with that, is there?


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @blakeyrat said:

    Comparison of the fonts from an engineer's point of view:

    Arial - Readable. Looks ok I guess.

    Helvetica - Readable. Looks ok I guess.

    IME: Courier new @8pt, crap; Lucida Console@8pt, readable.



  •  8pt? Yikes. Move your head further away from the monitor, man! You're going to go blind!



  • @PJH said:

    8pt
     

    Dewd.

    I have Consolas 11pt (glory be). I only did 8pt once when I needed a bird's overview on the flow of a big fat chunk of mega-ifs, and malindented, malstructured, malicious spaghetti code.



  • @dhromed said:

    I have Consolas 11pt (glory be). I only did 8pt once when I needed a bird's overview on the flow of a big fat chunk of mega-ifs, and malindented, malstructured, malicious spaghetti code.

    Let me guess... some kind of "Desktop Search"?



  • @ammoQ said:

    Let me guess... some kind of "Desktop Search"?
     

    Worse!

    Outsourced!



  • @dhromed said:

    @ammoQ said:
    Let me guess... some kind of "Desktop Search"?

    Worse!

    Outsourced!

    I hope not to SwampShack, Inc.?



  • @derula said:

    I hope not to SwampShack, Inc.?
     



  • @dhromed said:

    Filed under: Tags are easy to miss, I know

    If I hadn't missed them, I'd have asked anyway, if only for the joke.



  • @dhromed said:

    I have Consolas 11pt (glory be). I only did 8pt once when I needed a bird's overview on the flow of a big fat chunk of mega-ifs, and malindented, malstructured, malicious spaghetti code.
    My IDE of choice has an auto format function.  I'm a big fan.  Doesn't yours?



  • @belgariontheking said:

    My IDE of choice has an auto format function.  I'm a big fan.  Doesn't yours?
     

    No.

    I don't use an IDE for what I do. Just EditPlus.

    I would like autoformat,



  • @belgariontheking said:

    I'm a big fan.

    One that hangs from the ceiling or one that stands on the ground? What's your diameter? Are you on eBay?



  • @dhromed said:

    @belgariontheking said:

    My IDE of choice has an auto format function.  I'm a big fan.  Doesn't yours?
     

    No.

    I don't use an IDE for what I do. Just EditPlus.

    I would like autoformat,

    Shit, even vim has autoformat.



  • @derula said:

    One that hangs from the ceiling?

    @derula said:

    What's your diameter?
    61 pixels@derula said:
    Are you on eBay?




  • @belgariontheking said:

    @derula said:

    One that hangs from the ceiling?

     

    I call BS. You said you were a big fan, and that is quite clearly a very tiny fan.



  • @Someone You Know said:

    I call BS. You said you were a big fan, and that is quite clearly a very tiny fan.
     

    You know that on your monitor, everything looks tiny.




  • @belgariontheking said:

    @derula said:

    One that hangs from the ceiling?

    @derula said:

    Are you on eBay?


     

    You are truly a king.



  • @dhromed said:

    @Someone You Know said:

    I call BS. You said you were a big fan, and that is quite clearly a very tiny fan.
     

    You know that on your monitor, everything looks tiny.


    No way...   really?  I always thought it was because they were very far away.

     



  • @monkeypants said:

     TRWTF is usuing spellin and grammer checkors.

    You misspelled grammor



  • @El_Heffe said:

    @monkeypants said:
     TRWTF is usuing spellin and grammer checkors.
    You misspelled grammor

    U mispelled "misspeled".


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