Cloud data security
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Guess that's why cloud providers specifically disclaim any responsibility for not losing your data...
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Taking away the space to diagnose the issue and communicate fixes adds to the sense that Google is more interested in PR damage control than helping users.
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@izzion said in Cloud data security:
Guess that's why cloud providers specifically disclaim any responsibility for not losing your data...
This is why I consider these services as just ways to share files with others and sync files between my machines. I keep copies of anything I care about offline, outside of their automatically synced folders.
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@Parody said in Cloud data security:
outside of their automatically synced folders.
Or at the very least part of a synced folder under snapshot.
@Parody said in Cloud data security:
This is why I consider these services as just ways to share files with others and sync files between my machines.
This exactly. I hate it when people use the phrase "backed up to OneDrive". For various definitions, it is a sort of backup, but not by any means as defined in policies.
Second only to my hatred of people whining about their OneDrive "downloading all their stuff". No it doesn't and hasn't since Windows 8.1 unless you tell it to!
It makes me wonder if Offline Files could have been made to do something similar, but alas, we went cloudy...
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On that note, how much do we rate stability of OneDrive (for Business) to not shit over files over dumping them on S3?
Assume I have a long retention period for the files for legal reasons. Is it worth shoving them onto S3 as a backup for that reason?
(These files are in two sets, set 1 files will get uploaded, be ingested into a database, stuff will happen, writes will occur and then the file will likely never be touched again; set 2 files will get uploaded, ingested, stuff will happen but there will be periodic incremental writes to them. And they kinda have to be in OneDrive because Excel API.)
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@Arantor If you're considering S3 then the MS analogue would be more Azure blob storage; in the other camp, for stuff that's just being kept for retention requirements AWS would recommend Glacier storage.
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@Watson said in Cloud data security:
@Arantor If you're considering S3 then the MS analogue would be more Azure blob storage; in the other camp, for stuff that's just being kept for retention requirements AWS would recommend Glacier storage.
My architecture is sadly more complex than that. Client specifically wanted Laravel Vapor which runs the web facing instances on Lambda runners so it's all hipster and serverless.
And it's AWS only. The only reason OneDrive is involved is because this whole project revolves around a shitshow spreadsheet that nothing else (not PHPSpreadsheet, not LibreOffice, not Numbers) can properly open and extract from correctly 100% of the time. So it's in OneDrive to use the Excel API.
I'd have loved to keep everything in AWS for simplicity but... well... uh... yeah.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Cloud data security:
Second only to my hatred of people whining about their OneDrive "downloading all their stuff". No it doesn't and hasn't since Windows 8.1 unless you tell it to!
, it aggressively tries to take over your Desktop and Documents folders, which is "all your stuff" to a lot of people. I'd honestly expect the majority of home users of Windows 10 and 11 to have "allowed" it to do so without knowing they've done it.
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@Parody said in Cloud data security:
. I'd honestly expect the majority of home users of Windows 10 and 11 to have "allowed" it to do so without knowing they've done it.
Has and is continuing to happen. Had to explain to a grandpa that no, he doesn't need to pay to have his pictures on the computer.
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@Parody said in Cloud data security:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Cloud data security:
Second only to my hatred of people whining about their OneDrive "downloading all their stuff". No it doesn't and hasn't since Windows 8.1 unless you tell it to!
, it aggressively tries to take over your Desktop and Documents folders, which is "all your stuff" to a lot of people. I'd honestly expect the majority of home users of Windows 10 and 11 to have "allowed" it to do so without knowing they've done it.
And it advertises in Explorer and Office apps, ffs.
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@Arantor said in Cloud data security:
Assume I have a long retention period for the files for legal reasons. Is it worth shoving them onto S3 as a backup for that reason?
Azure offers the "Archive" tier for "blobs". Storage costs hardly anything, but when you want to read the data again ...
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@BernieTheBernie said in Cloud data security:
@Arantor said in Cloud data security:
Assume I have a long retention period for the files for legal reasons. Is it worth shoving them onto S3 as a backup for that reason?
Azure offers the "Archive" tier for "blobs". Storage costs hardly anything, but when you want to read the data again ...
Write Only data is perfect as a backup target though
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@izzion said in Cloud data security:
Write Only data is perfect as a backup target though
I can confirm that. (From the days of DOS and cassette tape backups. Yeah, restore failed after a harddrive failure.)
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@izzion said in Cloud data security:
@BernieTheBernie said in Cloud data security:
@Arantor said in Cloud data security:
Assume I have a long retention period for the files for legal reasons. Is it worth shoving them onto S3 as a backup for that reason?
Azure offers the "Archive" tier for "blobs". Storage costs hardly anything, but when you want to read the data again ...
Write Only data is perfect as a backup target though
For only $2/GB, I will safely write all your data to /dev/null. Guaranteed safe from hackers!
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including references to "grok"
Stranger in a strange land is overrated crap.
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@DogsB Idiots. When you fire someone, you revoke access before you tell them! (Or while you tell them)
Until his access to FRB's network was eventually terminated on March 12, 2020
He was fired on Mar 11.
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@dcon said in Cloud data security:
@DogsB Idiots. When you fire someone, you revoke access before you tell them! (Or while you tell them)
Until his access to FRB's network was eventually terminated on March 12, 2020
He was fired on Mar 11.
My question is, how was a standard developer able to make such lasting damage? Nuke-and-pave should not be an option available to many...
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Cloud data security:
@dcon said in Cloud data security:
@DogsB Idiots. When you fire someone, you revoke access before you tell them! (Or while you tell them)
Until his access to FRB's network was eventually terminated on March 12, 2020
He was fired on Mar 11.
My question is, how was a standard developer able to make such lasting damage? Nuke-and-pave should not be an option available to many...
:aliens.gif: Dev Ops
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@izzion said in Cloud data security:
:aliens.gif: Dev Oops
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