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@Arantor said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
A popular view on the App Formerly Known As Twitter is that with the new branding, one could refer to it as Xitter.
Which could well be pronounced Shitter.
Just had the same idea yesterday when I was watching the news with my German/Brazilian in-laws. "X" is pronounced "Shis" in Portuguese, which is way too close to German "Schiss" ("dump" or "turd") to not trigger my punning reflex,
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@remi said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
totally unrelated but still related
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@remi said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
On a totally unrelated but still related topic, apparently the big outcome of the latest management meeting was that we're going to have a company rebranding/renaming.
So did we. Oh wait, no, we were bought and changed our name. And shortly after, changed the name of the product we're working on. Makes looking at the code fun... namespaces in (old company 1), (old company 2), (current company), (old product name), (new product name).
edit: I should mention we have a standing recommendation that any new code should be in the namespace (new product name). But for sanity (since our code base is quite large), we aren't required to change existing namespaces. Hence the above.
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@dcon I've used commercial software like that. Rebranded from ABC to XYZ years ago, but there are still remnants of the old name, like abc.dat files, scattered around.
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@remi said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
What I found amazing is that neither he nor the interwebz couldn't do any better than stealing a 40 years old logo.
It's even better. It's a character from a font. There's an HTML named entity for it. đ (
𝕏
)
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@remi said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@topspin said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
What I found amazing is that neither he nor the interwebz couldn't do any better than stealing a 40 years old logo. That, or he's been trolled very hard.
Though maybe he wants to solve Twitter's network issues by confusing everyone about what is the "client" and what is the "server?"
The X logo is just the X from a $30 font.
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@topspin said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
So it's basically an empty site with an animated background and a cookie banner. From facebook. An empty site that spies on you.
Facebook reimplements Zombocom, poorly
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@boomzilla the person who created that stylesheet should be shot.
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@hungrier said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
The line gets the angles of its ends switched between picture 3 & 4
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@Carnage said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@hungrier said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
The line gets the angles of its ends switched between picture 3 & 4
See? Creativity!
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@topspin said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@boomzilla the person who created that stylesheet should be shot.
Looks like they adopted the default xterm color scheme from the 90s. X as X can!
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@HardwareGeek said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@dcon I've used commercial software like that. Rebranded from ABC to XYZ years ago, but there are still remnants of the old name, like abc.dat files, scattered around.
In the codebase I currently maintain, there is still at least one reference to the name of the original company, that was bought in 1989!
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In more "Because Fuck You, That's Why" news, Twitter takes the username @X away from a guy who has had it since 2007.
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@nerd4sale said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@HardwareGeek said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@dcon I've used commercial software like that. Rebranded from ABC to XYZ years ago, but there are still remnants of the old name, like abc.dat files, scattered around.
In the codebase I currently maintain, there is still at least one reference to the name of the original company, that was bought in 1989!
Hey, when you buy a memory chip with
DDR
printed on it, it may occasionally perhaps not reference theDeutsche Demokratische Republic
(GDR) which was bought by FRG in 1989.
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Musk replaced the logo on top of Twatter building in San Francisco. Neighbors are , ehm, that's correct too, but actually I wanted to say - Neighbors are not amused with that bright thingy there:
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"The social network
previouslyformerly known as Twitter" is totally how I'm going to refer to it from now on.
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@BernieTheBernie that seems awfully close to the level that might trigger a photosensitive reaction especially in people with epilepsy or similar.
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@Zecc said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
"The social network previously known as Twitter" is totally how I'm going to refer to it from now on.
Tooooo looonggggg. You need a good abbreviation. What about
X
?
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@BernieTheBernie too short, how about something short, catchy and memorable?
Say âTwitterâ?
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@BernieTheBernie There's a video here. It's not exactly subtle and it also fucking blinks. I'd be pissed too.
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Posting on Twitter is referred to as Tweets /Tweeting.
Posting to X is called ..... ?
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@Gern_Blaanston xting?
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@Zecc said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
"The social network previously known as Twitter"
⌠ex-Twitter?
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@Gern_Blaanston said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
Posting on Twitter is referred to as Tweets /Tweeting.
Posting to X is called ..... ?
Crazies
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X-posting, naturally.
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@Zecc said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
X-posting, naturally.
It's too bad we couldn't have a social media platform called Shit, because Shit-Posting is what we all really like.
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@Arantor said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@BernieTheBernie too short, how about something short, catchy and memorable?
Say âTwitterâ?
TwiđŠ
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@topspin the X is too hard to type on an iPad though.
Also now Iâm hungry.
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@topspin said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@Arantor said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@BernieTheBernie too short, how about something short, catchy and memorable?
Say âTwitterâ?
TwiđŠ
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@PleegWat said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@Arantor Yeah, in most cases bad publicity is still publicity. People remember the name, but they forget why they remember it.
Successful rebrandings are often consolidating brands, though I also remember a few cases where the name was changed to avoid an undesirable association in a new market (like jif -> cif).
I still call it jif.
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@DogsB said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@PleegWat said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@Arantor Yeah, in most cases bad publicity is still publicity. People remember the name, but they forget why they remember it.
Successful rebrandings are often consolidating brands, though I also remember a few cases where the name was changed to avoid an undesirable association in a new market (like jif -> cif).
I still call it jif.
Jraphics Interchange Format?
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@topspin now known as craphics interchange format because the jif part was too hard to pronounce. But it is very clean as things go.
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@topspin said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
Jraphics Interchange Format?
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@Zecc "Jaif". CD says so, and they're an expert.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
Posting on Twitter is referred to as Tweets /Tweeting.
Posting to X is called ..... ?
Xueef. As in queef.
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I do not have enough for this.
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@Arantor I hear the ability to block users is a requirement for a social media app to be listed on the google and apple app stores. If google and apple stand up for their terms, then indeed.
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@coderpatsy said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
If google and apple stand up for their terms
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@Arantor Like, what? Musk looked at the stats and figured too many users were blocking him?
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@cvi said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@Arantor Like, what? Musk looked at the stats and figured too many users were blocking him?
My honest answer is that I suspect Musk was made aware of (or knew about for a while but now chose to act on) the prevalence of people maintaining lists to auto-block others based on who the people being blocked followed or other collections that are usually grouped by the political and/or religious beliefs of the people on the list to be blocked.
On the one hand, it seems a little odd to me that a social media app would support User A blocking User B from all ability to read, interact with (like/share), or respond to User A's posts. Especially since I assume there's no real technical solution to say "well, if you've blocked User B, you can't talk about User B at all" and it would be effectively impossible to moderate that. So from that standpoint, changing the definition of blocking someone to preventing them from directly messaging you at all (and maybe preventing you from seeing their activity, though I'm given to understand that's not part of the currently announced change) would seem to improve the "public square" nature of Twitter.
On the other hand, there are plenty of social media posters (who by the nature of their postings have lost the right to the title "person" in their online persona) who are absolute barbarians, and I can see having the ability to block those people as an essential capability for people who just want to use social media as an online extension of normal relationships.
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@izzion I'm a fan of his purchase of Twitter restoring more balanced moderation policies, but I can't imagine using it any more if he takes away the ability to block from the user. This is insane. The whole idea is that the user wants to have control, not Twitter/X.
At least WTDWTF has mute which it calls Block. I can remember when it didn't.
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@izzion said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
On the one hand, it seems a little odd to me that a social media app would support User A blocking User B from all ability to read, interact with (like/share), or respond to User A's posts.
How else do people stop crypto scammers or spambots from posting replies to their posts? Or people who are actually harassing them?
Muting those accounts only hides the posts from your timeline, it doesn't stop your followers from seeing them.
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@loopback0 said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@izzion said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
On the one hand, it seems a little odd to me that a social media app would support User A blocking User B from all ability to read, interact with (like/share), or respond to User A's posts.
How else do people stop crypto scammers or spambots from posting replies to their posts? Or people who are actually harassing them?
Muting those accounts only hides the posts from your timeline, it doesn't stop your followers from seeing them.Not posting very often seems to work well.
Status: Twitter is telling me my account is 15 years old.
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@Parody said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@loopback0 said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@izzion said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
On the one hand, it seems a little odd to me that a social media app would support User A blocking User B from all ability to read, interact with (like/share), or respond to User A's posts.
How else do people stop crypto scammers or spambots from posting replies to their posts? Or people who are actually harassing them?
Muting those accounts only hides the posts from your timeline, it doesn't stop your followers from seeing them.Not posting very often seems to work well.
That's my approach too, but Twitter would be very quiet if everyone took it. I'd have no memes to repost here.
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@izzion said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
So from that standpoint, changing the definition of blocking someone to preventing them from directly messaging you at all (and maybe preventing you from seeing their activity, though I'm given to understand that's not part of the currently announced change)
The current block feature:
- hides all content from that person
- stops that person seeing your content
- prevents them directly reaching out to you
- reduces their ability to reach out to you via mutuals
- prevents them DMing you
Consider the difference between this and mute (which is what most forums offer) where said person can still see you and interact with you, but in a reduced way.
Taking the block feature out is actively harmful because it will re-enable various unpleasant stalker-types who don't take no for an answer.
I assume Musk doesn't actively get harrassed, threats of violence, death threats on a regular basis - plenty of people do and blocking is the only tool they really have.
I'm assuming also that a large part of this problem is Musk having figured out that so many people block him (and by virtue of the algorithm, this immediately improves their experience by it also discouraging his immediate network from turning up in the timeline - I immediately stopped seeing Musk-stans after blocking him)
I suspect blocking will not go away because of the App Store requirements, but I could see it go under the subscriber tier.
Elon demonstrably want the ability to block others but not be blocked himself (for someone who claims that blocking makes no sense, he does seem to do it quite a bit).
Ironically I feel that this move takes the entire thing full circle back to the original comments right at the start of this thread about this being political, though at this point I no longer understand whether Elon is doing this out of an actual political motivation or simply that he's so full of his own bullshit that anything that makes sense to him is what he's doing this minute.