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@loopback0 yeah, finally published:
These data sets were created in 2021 by exploiting a Twitter API vulnerability that allowed users to input email addresses and phone numbers to confirm whether they were associated with a Twitter ID.
The threat actors then used another API to scrape the public Twitter data for the ID and combined this public data with private email addresses/phone numbers to create profiles of Twitter users.
Though Twitter fixed this flaw in January 2022, multiple threat actors have recently begun to leak the data sets they collected over a year ago for free.
The first data set of 5.4 million users was put up for sale in July for $30,000 and ultimately released for free on November 27th, 2022. Another data set allegedly containing the data for 17 million users was also circulating privately in November.
More recently, a threat actor began selling a data set that they claimed contained 400 million Twitter profiles collected using this vulnerability.
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@boomzilla said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
The first data set of 5.4 million users was put up for sale in July for $30,000
That's an interesting insight into the shady business of identity theft (since this is the only purpose I can imagine this data being used for?).
Assuming there was a buyer at that price (if that was the asking price, we can suppose that at least the ballpark is correct), and that a successful identity theft brings in $1000 on average (, various numbers are floated around but $1000 seems a correct ballpark), that means thieves are hoping for one success out of every 180 000 addresses.
I'm not sure exactly how you exploit a combo of Twitter ID + email + phone to get to a successful identity theft, and I'm not sure either what to make of this 180 000 number, though.
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See also:
Guess the twatter’s still not dead yet? Trust Elon to fuck up fucking up
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@kazitor said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
Guess the twatter’s still not dead yet? Trust Elon to fuck up fucking up
Really surprising it not being dead yet. Probably the multi-hundred-million-dollar secondary economies running on it are what's keeping it up. And yeah there's not a way for M. Boer to collect on that.
I really love seeing a South African brought to ruin and disgrace.
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@Gribnit said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
I really love seeing a
South Africanrich asshole brought to ruin and disgrace.
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@dkf said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@Gribnit said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
I really love seeing a
South Africanrich asshole brought to ruin and disgrace.Eh, rare as it is, that should be an everyday occurrence. No. Fuck South Africa specifically, and more specifically, anyone of Afrikaaner descent.
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@Gribnit said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
Fuck South Africa specifically, and more specifically, anyone of Afrikaaner descent.
Dibs on Charlize.
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@Zecc said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@Gribnit said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
Fuck South Africa specifically, and more specifically, anyone of Afrikaaner descent.
Dibs on Charlize.
Have fun, just be sure to shoot it after.
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@boomzilla said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
They're monetizing Meta's inability to stop account impersonators.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@boomzilla said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
They're monetizing Meta's inability to stop account impersonators.
Remember, the ownership of a name can only be determined via market action. Any a-priori fixed points whatsoever are a form of ethically unsupportable government intervention in the bazaar.
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"We contacted Twitter about the lawsuit today. The company continues to auto-reply with a poop emoji to all requests sent to its public relations email address."
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I don't really use Twitter other than the occasional link I follow from other places, but apparently people can put community notes on ads, not just regular tweets:
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@boomzilla since 95% of ads are lying, or close to it, that’s going to be interesting.
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@boomzilla Great business decision. That's sure to bring in more advertisers to the platform.
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@Zecc what are the odds it was intentional?
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Awesome front page on Twitter.
This is what I get going to Twitter.com itself.
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@Arantor Do you think Elon's priority will be to change that poodle into a Doge before fixing the underlying problem?
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@Arantor finally a twitter frontpage worth visiting!
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@The_Quiet_One that depends if he’s too busy taking NPR’s Twitter handle off them first or not.
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So the latest wheeze is that he’s going to prune inactive accounts, with a view to “releasing old handles”.
Some speculate this is about making a revenue stream - I could imagine folks bidding on realDonaldTrump once this happens! - but I think it’s actually simpler than that: it prevents folks who left from leaving a trail where to find them.
I’m assuming he’s noticed the folks who left for Mastodon who left their display name with a Mastodon reference or similar - with no sign of returning.
And of course, that’ll reduce the size of the database a smidge which has to help the bottom line
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@Arantor he said accounts with "no activity at all for several years" and most of the people who actually left for Mastodon only did so recently.
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@loopback0 I wouldn’t take anything he says at face value. He seems to change his mind on a whim, and policies often change between initial announcement and end result.
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@Arantor said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@loopback0 I wouldn’t take anything he says at face value. He seems to change his mind on a whim, and policies often change between initial announcement and end result.
He also constantly lies, so
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@MrL said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@Arantor said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@loopback0 I wouldn’t take anything he says at face value. He seems to change his mind on a whim, and policies often change between initial announcement and end result.
He also constantly lies, so
You guys make it sound like he'll be president soon enough.
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@Carnage said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@MrL said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@Arantor said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@loopback0 I wouldn’t take anything he says at face value. He seems to change his mind on a whim, and policies often change between initial announcement and end result.
He also constantly lies, so
You guys make it sound like he'll be president soon enough.
Not unless there's an Amendment allowing foreign born Presidents. However, this could be significant (it's certainly something I've heard people bitching about):
I wonder if the start of this has anything to do with Tucker Carlson announcing that he'll be doing a Twitter based show.
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@boomzilla said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
a Twitter based show
Sounds terrible even without considering the other aspects.
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@boomzilla said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
However, this could be significant (it's certainly something I've heard people bitching about):
I didn’t realise today was February.
Filed under: Elon lied
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@dkf said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@boomzilla said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
a Twitter based show
Sounds terrible even without considering the other aspects.
I didn't hear about it. From all the options he had available he chose Twitter? Terrible decision.
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@MrL said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
he chose Twitter? Terrible decision.
Universal truth.
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@MrL said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@dkf said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@boomzilla said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
a Twitter based show
Sounds terrible even without considering the other aspects.
I didn't hear about it. From all the options he had available he chose Twitter? Terrible decision.
Speculation I've read is that he hasn't actually broken his non-compete yet (though he has filed litigation alleging that Fox has breached the contract), so he might not actually have options at the moment if established media arms don't want to risk being on the wrong end of a non-compete hot potato.
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Inactive for years?
Twitter policy says 30 days may be enough - https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/inactive-twitter-accounts
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@The_Quiet_One And to follow up on this:
According to the article she has worked for both Trump and Biden, meaning both sides can be angry over his choice. Perfect!
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@Atazhaia and she’s a marketing person so she might be able to get advertisers back on board, but only as long as Melon doesn’t upend the platform continuously underneath her (which we all know he’s going to do)
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@Atazhaia said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
meaning both sides can be angry over his choice. Perfect!
And they are. I've seen complaints both that she's following radical right-wing groups as well as that she's worked for the left-wing Jewish NWO.
(So far I can't be bothered to look her up , so I'll temporarily refrain from judgement, but I'd be surprised if wouldn't hire someone to follow his own positions.)
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@topspin said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
I'd be surprised if wouldn't hire someone to follow his own positions.)
Knowing Musk, she'll be just a puppet.
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@MrL it’s a shrewd move for her either way though. If she fixes the platform, she can write her own ticket anywhere she wants. If not, she can shrug “well, I was undermined by Elon, we all know what he’s like” and she gets to write her own ticket anywhere she wants after that anyway C-suite club.
And if she is even a fraction of the “hard negotiator” she is reputed to gem she would have negotiated cash up front to at least some degree, even if she got some stock as well.
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@Arantor said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@Atazhaia and she’s a marketing person so she might be able to get advertisers back on board, but only as long as Melon doesn’t upend the platform continuously underneath her (which we all know he’s going to do)
Is it common to hire people with only marketing experience as CEO's?
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@jinpa she’s been running NBCUniversal’s multi-billion dollar ad business for a while - marketing person, yes, but at the big corporate level.
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It found another way to cut costs
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@robo2 said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
It found another way to cut costs
Continuing in that vein
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I mean, not paying the rent is a good cost saving.
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@Arantor said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
I mean, not paying the rent is a good cost saving.
At least for a short period of time...
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@dcon said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@Arantor said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
I mean, not paying the rent is a good cost saving.
At least for a short period of time...
… before the even bigger cost savings of just closing that office take effect.
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I'm surprsied Musk hasn't thought about closing all the offices and making everyone WFH because that'd be a lot cheaper.
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@Arantor said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
I'm surprsied Musk hasn't thought about closing all the offices and making everyone WFH because that'd be a lot cheaper.
Wasn't he saying he wanted everyone back and if you wanted to WFH you could find another employer?
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@dcon yes because he's an awful people manager who feels this is the only way to manage people - but once it occurs to him that he can sack off the offices and people can work remotely... it's not like a Gigafactory where you actually need boots on the ground, so to speak, to build physical things.
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@dcon said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
@Arantor said in In other hostile takeover Tweets...:
I'm surprsied Musk hasn't thought about closing all the offices and making everyone WFH because that'd be a lot cheaper.
Wasn't he saying he wanted everyone back and if you wanted to WFH you could find another employer?
Especially early on, he was trying to find the dead weight. And based on the "Day in the life of" videos, there was probably a lot. Getting people in to observe them would probably work a lot better than trying to figure that out all remotely. I don't know if that was his plan but it would make sense.
He does seem to adapt to stuff when he sees it's not working. Also, he's got a new CEO, who might make some of those decisions differently than he would.