The Belt Onion club
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@Zecc How are we going to get out of the Matrix now?
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@Zerosquare said in The Belt Onion club:
That seems to have taken inspiration from the age verification in Leisure Suit Larry in the Land of the Lounge Lizards (the original version, anyway).
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@Zecc how will the Machine call Finch and team with irrelevant numbers?
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in The Belt Onion club:
@Zecc How are we going to get out of the Matrix now?
At one point, they considered using fax machines instead, but half the time people faced the wrong direction and came up blank.
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@boomzilla that'll destroy a sweater
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When somebody says "alphabet people" and this comes to mind:
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@DogsB said in The Belt Onion club:
@boomzilla said in The Belt Onion club:
This will never be a thing. I will die on this hill.
I wish I could be arsed to turn on a radio.
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@Gribnit you want an arse that flexible? Normal people use their fingers to turn on a radio.
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@LaoC said in The Belt Onion club:
If you turn around you can see the Pripyat ferris wheel, right?
Either that or City 17.
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You must be old enough when you want to understand the first cartoon in
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@topspin said in The Belt Onion club:
Coincidentally, I just saw the scene from which this screenshot was taken (from Stranger Things.)
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@Zecc it came out two days ago, so itâs not that much of a coincidence.
I found the scene to be pretty funny.
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@topspin said in The Belt Onion club:
@Zecc it came out two days ago, so itâs not that much of a coincidence.
I found the scene to be pretty funny.Probably the most entertaining part of the last episodes. God, that was a disappointment
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@homoBalkanus I'm watching for completion sake. The last season didn't quite cut it for me.
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@homoBalkanus said in The Belt Onion club:
Probably the most entertaining part of the last episodes. God, that was a disappointment
I found the first episode hard to get through, with its trying very hard to show ânormalâ life for the main characters for most of it â so hardly anything interesting happened at all. The whole episode mainly made me wonder WTF would want to go to schools where people act like that ⊠After that I thought it got a lot better, though I must say a fair amount of stuff doesnât make complete sense even according to the showâs internal logic.
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I havenât watched Stranger Things, donât really care to, but I was amused by the one meme image where someone was looking at HTML on an Amiga running Workbench 1.3 while on some kind of green-on-black monitor.
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@Arantor said in The Belt Onion club:
I havenât watched Stranger Things, donât really care to, but I was amused by the one meme image where someone was looking at HTML on an Amiga running Workbench 1.3 while on some kind of green-on-black monitor.
First two seasons are really good, not only for eighties nostalgia - it's very well made all around. After that, meh.
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@MrL said in The Belt Onion club:
the one meme image where someone was looking at HTML on an Amiga running Workbench 1.3 while on some kind of green-on-black monitor.
: HTML? That's nothing!
(also, I didn't know green monitors could display red mouse cursors.)
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@Zerosquare or the slight blue tint of that background.
Also what up with the title bar? Thatâs not classic WB 1.x⊠in fact did they PS a new version number on the header because they have a WB 1.3 disk on an alleged 1.0 WB ROM⊠that wonât entirely go well for you IIRC.
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@Zerosquare said in The Belt Onion club:
: HTML? That's nothing!
After that follows HTML â I just tried to make a screenshot of it, but both Safari and Chrome refuse to give more than a black screen when I do, so to it. Itâs around 54:00 into episode 6 of season 4, for anyone who wants to check for themselves.
In any case, HTML in 1986 can be excused here because the little girl who conjures all this up on screen is clearly a time traveller from the future, since she also knows the Internet will âchange the worldâ. Hell, she knows about the Internet in 1986, thatâs proof enough by itself.
(also, I didn't know green monitors could display red mouse cursors.)
In another part there are some white icons in the title bar of a window thatâs otherwise green. It gives the impression they either did a poor job mocking it up, or used an Amiga (real or in an emulator) with the system screen colours set to green so it looks like a greenscreen monitor? (Iâve not used one enough to know if thatâs possible, and I donât feel like digging up one of my Amiga 500s, a monitor, the disks, setting it all up etc. to check.)
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They're poor mock ups:
https://i.imgur.com/jsVenbK.pngNotice how the label of the icon in the top right corner shows through the window (someone chose the wrong layer blending mode in Photoshop, probably).
Also, the font used for the "WordPerfect" part has smaller pixels than the rest. And it's the standard VGA font, which you're not going to find on an Amiga.
Also, while the menu bar matches the curvature of the screen, the windows don't.
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@boomzilla No, they did care. They just werenât, as a rule, trying to shield you from absolutely everything that could possibly hurt in even the slightest way. A caption that does fit this image is: âMy parents werenât trying to create a generation that doesnât know how to deal with disappointment.â
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@Gurth said in The Belt Onion club:
In another part there are some white icons in the title bar of a window thatâs otherwise green. It gives the impression they either did a poor job mocking it up, or used an Amiga (real or in an emulator) with the system screen colours set to green so it looks like a greenscreen monitor?
Probably just one of those flaky monitor cables.
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@LaoC majority of Amigas were plugged into TVs rather than monitors, often using something that might be composite from the joyous Commodore A520 modulator. SCART was a fairly new thing at the time IIRC.
But the greenish tint in those screenshots is definitely someone trying to make it look older than it is - the Workbench colour scheme is pretty hard to miss otherwise and if youâre getting green instead of white that would imply missing blue and red, both of which are visibly present.
Itâs just a really rubbish job for anyone who has actually seen an AmigaâŠ
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@Arantor said in The Belt Onion club:
@LaoC majority of Amigas were plugged into TVs rather than monitors, often using something that might be composite from the joyous Commodore A520 modulator. SCART was a fairly new thing at the time IIRC.
I wasn't serious, although this is clearly a monitor. Probably one of the older 1084 models that had a logo on the brownish part of the bezel.
Edit: here you go. At least they made an effortâthis is the model sold for the A1000; later ones had the logo further down and the potentiometer cover more to the right.
But the greenish tint in those screenshots is definitely someone trying to make it look older than it is - the Workbench colour scheme is pretty hard to miss otherwise and if youâre getting green instead of white that would imply missing blue and red, both of which are visibly present.
It does, but in fact I remember cables that you could get to show a muted version of the colors that were broken, probably because the contact didn't quite touch but you got enough capacitive coupling.
Itâs just a really rubbish job for anyone who has actually seen an AmigaâŠ
A better one would get less attention from the nerds
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@LaoC if itâs a real monitor, itâs going to be hanging off the monitor socket which is a funky ass 23-pin D type connector that has the RGB as separate signals, so it is a little more likely it could manifest the same behaviour they were showing.
I didnât look too closely at the bezel, but yeah youâre right in that it is a monitor rather than a TV. Given the blurriness that could happen from the A520 itâs probably for the best.
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@Arantor said in The Belt Onion club:
@LaoC majority of Amigas were plugged into TVs rather than monitors
Odd, I remember all of the ones Iâve actually used having a proper monitor.
the joyous Commodore A520 modulator.
Iâve got one of those too, awful thing.
SCART was a fairly new thing at the time IIRC.
Designed 1976, says Wikipedia, but I donât recall seeing them on TVs before the late 80s at the earliest.
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@Gurth I think thatâs entirely situational - everyone I knew that had an Amiga when I grew up, we were all using TVs rather than proper monitors.
The reason I think about SCART is because I remember reading Amiga Format in 1990-1992 and asking for âhow do I wire up the monitor port to SCARTâ was a regular question but none of the TVs Iâd encountered around that time had SCART. Then again I at least was in an environment of second-hand and hand-me-down land.
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It's probably country-specific. France made SCART mandatory on all TV sets manufactured in 1980 or later. It spread to other European countries later.
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@Zerosquare no wonder it wasnât that common in my neck of the woods even into the early 1990s, canât have anything invented in France when we all know British ingenuity is just as good.
(I canât believe I said that with a straight face.)
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Oh, the NIH syndrome was just as strong in the other direction. It's widely know that making SCART mandatory was just a way of protecting national manufacturers of consumer electronics, by preventing the importation of cheap made-in-Asia AV gear. (Of course, it didn't work for very long.)
And I have to admit some of the British stuff was actually superior. For example, the BBC Micro was a better machine that the Thomson TO/MO line (both being the outcome of national computer literacy projects, in the approximate same time period).
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@Zerosquare true enough, but I was definitely thinking about how much other British âingenuityâ weâve had. Sinclair C5 comes to mind.
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@Arantor TBH, the C5 had two real problems: not-great UI design, and about 30 years too early for the technology needed to make it work properly.
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At least the C5 was actually innovative, if not practical. When it comes to British ingenuity and 3-wheeled cars, I think this is a better example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4WIBXEJvsQ
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@Arantor said in The Belt Onion club:
@Zerosquare no wonder it wasnât that common in my neck of the woods even into the early 1990s, canât have anything invented in France when we all know British ingenuity is just as good.
(I canât believe I said that with a straight face.)
I can. Youu guys are suppoused to be gooud with dry humour.
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@Zerosquare At least in one of those you have a roof over your head, unlike when you drive a three-wheeled vehicle made in B*****m:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c_RKES1NEo
Edit: doesnât that embed?
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@Gurth said in The Belt Onion club:
Edit: doesnât that embed?
That's been an intermittent problem for a while. It seems to be due to requests to YouTube randomly timing out. If you reload the page in a few hours, it will embed but some other video won't.
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@boomzilla Fair. Nationally the Brits can be good at dry humour, but I'm having something of a sense of humour failure of late.
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*reboots @Arantor*
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@HardwareGeek It does show now, the morning after, yes. Weird.
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Huh, weird. I didn't expect that rebooting @Arantor would fix that.