DNS is optional
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This discussion reminds me that we were recently instructed to switch ALL our machines, physical or virtual, from Windows 7 to Windows 10 (or Server equivalents) because Windows 7 extended support is about to expire.
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@Medinoc said in DNS is optional:
This discussion reminds me that we were recently instructed to switch ALL our machines, physical or virtual, from Windows 7 to Windows 10 (or Server equivalents) because Windows 7 extended support is about to expire.
Windows Server 2008 R2 also loses extended support in January.
@MrL said in DNS is optional:
I see nothing strange, or wrong, in Windows as a server.
Windows Server as a server, no, obviously that's normal.
Windows desktop licensing doesn't allow it.
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@levicki said in DNS is optional:
What makes someone a professional is not a simple fact that they get money for their work.
Seems to me that you need to update your dictionary, here I will help:
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@levicki said in DNS is optional:
To me it looks like quite a stretch to take the 5th definition of the word "professional" (usually used in a sports/competitive specific context no less) and claim that everyone who is being paid to do something is a professional.
That would actually be their 6th. Note, that the 4th and 5th also apply in this circumstance and depending on the hooker, the 3rd could apply as well. You can even make an argument for the 1st fitting as well, as the education note is just an addition, not a requirement (as it is in the 2nd).
Further, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldest_profession_(phrase)
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@levicki said in DNS is optional:
@Dragoon said in DNS is optional:
That would actually be their 6th. Note, that the 4th and 5th also apply in this circumstance and depending on the hooker, the 3rd could apply as well.
To me the word "professional" means "showing that someone is well trained and extremely skilled".
Being professional does not have to involve money.
Yes, we know that you are Humpty-Dumpty. Be careful of sitting on walls, though.
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@levicki
Yes, that would be why I said earlier that you need to update your dictionary (though I should have said definition).
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@levicki there's this thing called polysemy--words mean different things in different contexts. It's the source of much word play. In context, your chosen definition makes little sense, while others work well. So your insistence that yours is the only one that could be used is tantamount to a redefinition by removing all the other valid choices.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in DNS is optional:
In context, your chosen definition makes little sense, while others work well.
I think his works well in the context of what he said, but saying that involves agreeing with him so I'll have to call him a retard later or something to balance it out.
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@loopback0 said in DNS is optional:
@Benjamin-Hall said in DNS is optional:
In context, your chosen definition makes little sense, while others work well.
I think his works well in the context of what he said, but saying that involves agreeing with him so I'll have to call him a retard later or something to balance it out.
It works, but claiming it's the only definition doesn't work.
And more importantly (and more oriented), I just wanted to make a Humpty-Dumpty reference (because people were talking about definitions and that's what came to mind).
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@Benjamin-Hall said in DNS is optional:
more importantly (and more oriented), I just wanted to
More importantly (and more oriented), I just wanted to set up a bonus opportunity to call him a retard.
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@levicki said in DNS is optional:
@Benjamin-Hall said in DNS is optional:
@levicki there's this thing called polysemy--words mean different things in different contexts. It's the source of much word play. In context, your chosen definition makes little sense, while others work well. So your insistence that yours is the only one that could be used is tantamount to a redefinition by removing all the other valid choices.
So let me summarize:
Claim #1 (made by me) -- OP and his colleague are not professionals (or they would have managed DNS properly and not used Win10 in production).
Claim #2 (made by everyone else) -- Professionals are paid for their work, OP and his colleague are paid for their work, therefore it follows they too must be professionals.
That's how the argument about what "professional" means started. One would think that a bunch of developers would be less susceptible to making logical fallacies, much less defending them and calling people who point them out retards.
Your claim #1 does not follow. It is valid to call some one a professional if they meet at least one definition of the word. Being paid for their work is one definition. Therefore, they are professionals (by that meaning). Your claim requires that only one particular definition (and only a slanted, biased version of it) is valid. That denies polysemy. TDMSYR.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in DNS is optional:
Your claim #1 does not follow.
I think when he says they're not professionals he means they're unprofessional.
Although when the different definitions of Y are sufficently, well, different then I think it's fine to say person X is not Y because the contextual definition of Y doesn't apply.
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@loopback0 They might be unprofessional, but they are professionals. Different words have different meanings, especially when they're different parts of speech. This is (one reason) why natural language processing is hard--words are squishy things.
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@Benjamin-Hall We're not disagreeing but the conversation is retarded.
Also @levicki is retarded.
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@levicki said in DNS is optional:
@Dragoon said in DNS is optional:
That would actually be their 6th. Note, that the 4th and 5th also apply in this circumstance and depending on the hooker, the 3rd could apply as well.
To me the word "professional" means "showing that someone is well trained and extremely skilled".
Being professional does not have to involve money.
To me, being a professional does not imply that you are professional!
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@loopback0
I can call you retarded if that helps keeping the balance
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@levicki said in DNS is optional:
So you are saying I am redefining a word because I picked the meaning #3 instead of meaning #5 from the dictionary?
Also you ignored the first few that talked about a "job," which implies money. Amateur troll is amateur.
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@gleemonk said in DNS is optional:
DNS administration webinterface
I wonder if the "DNS administration webinterface" sucks and they uses *nix, why won't they just disable that and setup new BIND, or use BIND and set that DNS server to use BIND as authoritative DNS server?
I would prefer that over editing hosts file of hundreds of machines.
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@MrL said in DNS is optional:
I remember at one company, management was constantly bitching about license costs of our servers (whole two of them).
. Game servers used to be on Windows. Then we saved 15 percent or more by switching to Linux. The loss of easy-debugged dump files was worth it.
@MrL said in DNS is optional:
The project burns more money each month, but it's cheaper because we don't pay for licenses
Luckily, UE4's cross-platform support (at least for game servers) is Good Enough™ that this is almost good enough.
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@levicki said in DNS is optional:
To me the word "professional" means "showing that someone is well trained and extremely skilled".
I see you've never met any real-life "professionals"
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@Tsaukpaetra said in DNS is optional:
. Game servers used to be on Windows. Then we saved 15 percent or more by switching to
LinuxGeico.FTFY
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@Mason_Wheeler said in DNS is optional:
@Tsaukpaetra said in DNS is optional:
. Game servers used to be on Windows. Then we saved 15 percent or more by switching to
LinuxGeico.FTFY
Thanks for exposing the joke...
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@cheong said in DNS is optional:
I wonder if the "DNS administration webinterface" sucks and they uses *nix, why won't they just disable that and setup new BIND, or use BIND and set that DNS server to use BIND as authoritative DNS server?
I think they just use the registrar's DNS servers. So it's a webinterface. I'm not convinced it's a good idea to have Sys run an authoritative nameserver for us.
I would prefer that over editing hosts file of hundreds of machines.
Puppet can do that part easily. That's not the problem.
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@cheong said in DNS is optional:
I would prefer that over editing hosts file of hundreds of machines.
Ahhh.. Just make a hard link between the file systems so that there is only one physical file to edit.
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@TheCPUWizard Aren't hard links should be at the same filesystem(i.e.: partition)?
I think only soft/symbolic links can link between multiple locations.
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That's how I remember it, too.