Firefox is getting new icons. Again.
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Take your pick from the designs on their blog:
Personally I think this would be a decent excuse to fire some designers, because it seems they have too much free time.
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Also, someone commenting on the Ars Technica article immediately noticed that they haven't looked enough at other people's logo's:
Of course, that's supposed to represent a weirdly coloured Tanuki instead of the fox or red panda from Firefox, but whatever, it's not my job to invent original designs.
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@JBert What's wrong with just keeping what they have instead of constantly reinventing the wheel?
"System 2" looks best, since its closest to what we already have. But over the years they've been constantly decreasing the amount of detail in the original logo, and at no point has that made the logo better. Stop fucking with it, before you arrive at a red circle.
Fucking designers.
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Let's make a game out of this where we guess what these icons are actually supposed to represent without looking it up. The better the designers do their job, the more people will get right.
I'm going to go with the right-hand side, because the rest is complete shite.
My turn
- The "main icon" representing Mozilla (cheating a bit here, I think I glanced that from the text)
- Firefox
- Firefox Aurora
- Firefox Nightly
- Some unintelligible bullshit app, 2x
- Some weird rocket? Could be syncing.
- Some new gender I've not yet seen before
- Pretty sure that's an image viewer. Good icon.
- A refrigerator. Maybe in corporation with "Samsung's twittering fridge"
- Unintelligible bullshit redux, 2x
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@topspin first column, third row to me looks like a music player of some sorts. Third column, third row might be some sort of news aggregator? EDIT: no, it's a password manager. Cheated by looking at the corresponding icon on the other side.
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@topspin game:
Both Systems: Top row: Organization logo
Second row: Firefox, Icefox Firewalker, and Icefox
Third row: Some kind of collaboration software that gets less functional as you advance in icon, eventually reducing to one-way messaging.Maybe these are individual products:
System 1:
Fourth row: A stealth incremental bomber, an email client highly concerned with standards-compliant rendering, and a secret server.
Fifth row: A conflict creation service and a license compliance inspection service.System 2:
Fourth row: Some kind of cloud backup thing, an email client, and an anal-sex-by-phone service.
Fifth row: A web debugger and the Creative Commons logo.
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@topspin said in Firefox is getting new icons. Again.:
Some new gender I've not yet seen before
parachutist is not a gender
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System 2:
- Generic flamey thing
- Firefoxes x3
- A shield, so maybe something about AV or privacy?
- Something for calculating planetary orbits
- Something for launching things into said orbits (virtually, at least)
- Something to recover from the inevitable failure when launching things into orbit
- Photo viewing app? (Another one. Does humanity really need another one?)
- Not sure. Something about recycling (special?) snowflakes?
- I give up x2.
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@topspin said in Firefox is getting new icons. Again.:
Stop fucking with it, before you arrive at a red circle.
Maybe that's their endgame. Imagine associating any red circle with Firefox. That would be ultimate brand recognition.
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@sockpuppet7 said in Firefox is getting new icons. Again.:
Imagine associating any red circle with Firefox
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@JBert said in Firefox is getting new icons. Again.:
Personally I think this would be a decent excuse to fire some designers, because it seems they have too much
free timefriends in management who are in charge of embezzling the free money that gets donated to Mozilla.
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Close enough
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@Lorne-Kates said in Firefox is getting new icons. Again.:
@JBert said in Firefox is getting new icons. Again.:
Personally I think this would be a decent excuse to fire some designers, because it seems they have too much
free timefriends in management who are in charge of embezzling the free money that gets donated to Mozilla.lol we've got a mozilla fanboi here!
https://i.imgur.com/wd5JLvm.png
Someone who not only drinks the koolade, but snorts the crystals raw straight from Mozilla's anus.
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@topspin I'm afraid I can't play your game because -- without looking it up -- I knew what icon corresponded to which offering.
These all suck though. System 1 at least retains brand family identity through color (except in the new Firefox Focus icon), but neither of them really retain brand identity. Also, there's no mention of Thunderbird; it's not a Mozilla Corporate project anymore, but historically it's shared Firefox's branding and had to keep parity with it, and I don't really see a way to do that in System 1 (and a VERY heavy lift for System 2), especially with its being starved of Mozilla resources.
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@accalia and @blakeyrat called it 2 years ago:
https://what.thedailywtf.com/topic/20521/where-are-we-going-with-this/55
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@El_Heffe I am a medium.
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Appropos of nothing-- I was thinking of upgrading firefox from my current "28" to something newer. Mainly to replace Sylish with Stylus.
Took a browse through the Firefox release notes to see if there's any "safe" version to upgrade to, given that 29 is Ass-Cancer.
Some gems from the release notes:
- "Cleaner interface"
- "sponsored stories" on the new tab page
- "pocket suggestions" (aka: more ads) on the new tab page
- I stopped there because fucvk all that
Downloading Palemoon now.
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@Lorne-Kates said in Firefox is getting new icons. Again.:
@blakeyrat said in Firefox is getting new icons. Again.:
@El_Heffe I am a medium.
That's rare.
Well done, sir; well done.
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@topspin Alright, I'm going to try both because why not!
System 1
- GitLab's new logo
- 80's Firefox x3
- Advanced recycling facility, Centrifuge, Rocket
- 3D printed gun, Image resizing, Pandora's box
- Washing machine spin cycle, Fish
System 2
- Detached tyre retread
- LAN-only Firefox version x3
- Clothing care label symbol, Nuclear facility, Rocket
- Parachute, Image, Button
- Skewed image, Tyre cut in half
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@blakeyrat said in Firefox is getting new icons. Again.:
@El_Heffe I am a medium.
I am an extra large.
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@blakeyrat said in Firefox is getting new icons. Again.:
@El_Heffe I am a medium.
I'm an extra-large.
edit: /me fist-bumps @El_Heffe
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@Lorne-Kates Why not just use something sensible, like Chrome?
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@pie_flavor said in Firefox is getting new icons. Again.:
@Lorne-Kates Why not just use something sensible, like Chrome?
Here's a guess: because when Chrome grabs telemetry data (and Chrome does this all the time) the "fuck you, give me money" principle applies. So far Google has not reached out.
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@Lorne-Kates said in Firefox is getting new icons. Again.:
@blakeyrat said in Firefox is getting new icons. Again.:
@El_Heffe I am a medium.
That's rare.
It's the most common size.
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@JBert said in Firefox is getting new icons. Again.:
@pie_flavor said in Firefox is getting new icons. Again.:
@Lorne-Kates Why not just use something sensible, like Chrome?
Here's a guess: because when Chrome grabs telemetry data (and Chrome does this all the time) the "fuck you, give me money" principle applies. So far Google has not reached out.
https://i.imgur.com/cDtcbev.png
https://i.imgur.com/w5P0EUD.png
https://i.imgur.com/XQ1ALCV.pngThat's 100% of phoning home right there. Tip: Chromium is open source.
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@pie_flavor said in Firefox is getting new icons. Again.:
@Lorne-Kates Why not just use something sensible, like Chrome?
I'll return to that once Chrome decides it's time to become sensible about RAM usage again. Because godddamn, if there's a byte of free memory somewhere on the system, Chrome needs it!
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@Onyx Mostly from browsing WTDWTF. That memory leak hasn't been fixed yet.
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@topspin For most of them I honestly have no fucking clue.
The first one after the 3 firefox logos, in "System 1", looks like the old Google Photos logo (a camera shutter). Does Firefox take photos now? And on System 2 it's just an abstract symbol.
The one on it's right is a "belt" and another abstract symbol. Again, no idea.
The two at the bottom... jesus christ, in no universe do these mean anything to anyone.
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@pie_flavor said in Firefox is getting new icons. Again.:
@Lorne-Kates Why not just use something sensible, like Chrome?
Does Chrome have tab trees that are not on a separate window yet?
Not a rhetorical question.
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@Zecc What's a tab tree?
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@blakeyrat said in Firefox is getting new icons. Again.:
@El_Heffe I am a medium.
Those were truly outstanding
jokespredictions of the future. Good job!
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@Deadfast said in Firefox is getting new icons. Again.:
System 2
- LAN-only Firefox version x3
Good catch.
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@pie_flavor said in Firefox is getting new icons. Again.:
@Zecc What's a tab tree?
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Mind you, those are the tabs of one window.
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@pie_flavor said in Firefox is getting new icons. Again.:
@Onyx Mostly from browsing WTDWTF. That memory leak hasn't been fixed yet.
Metaphorically, speaking, yes.
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@Zecc Vivaldi does!
Edit: no it doesn't, sorry, it has vertical tabs and tab grouping, but no "tree" functionality.
It also still has plenty of bugs but, you know, sometimes you have to compromise.
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@Lorne-Kates said in Firefox is getting new icons. Again.:
Appropos of nothing-- I was thinking of upgrading firefox from my current "28" to something newer. Mainly to replace Sylish with Stylus.
Took a browse through the Firefox release notes to see if there's any "safe" version to upgrade to, given that 29 is Ass-Cancer.
Some gems from the release notes:
- "Cleaner interface"
- "sponsored stories" on the new tab page
- "pocket suggestions" (aka: more ads) on the new tab page
- I stopped there because fucvk all that
Downloading Palemoon now.
I switched to Palemoon right after the Firefox 29 Ass Cancer debacle, and never went back. I tried Firefox 60 recently, and they did get rid of some of the ass cancer, but not nearly enough.
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@pie_flavor said in Firefox is getting new icons. Again.:
Tip: Chromium is open source.
Your mom is open to more than just the tip.
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@Zecc said in Firefox is getting new icons. Again.:
Does Chrome have tab trees that are not on a separate window yet?
It has trees of bookmarks, like every browser since like IE4, but everybody seems to have forgotten bookmarks exists except me.
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@blakeyrat said in Firefox is getting new icons. Again.:
It has trees of bookmarks, like every browser since like IE4, but everybody seems to have forgotten bookmarks exists except me.
Are the bookmarks automatically created and destroyed as I navigate?
Do they remember scroll positions and history?
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@Zecc said in Firefox is getting new icons. Again.:
Are the bookmarks automatically created and destroyed as I navigate?
Yes. It uses elf technology.
@Zecc said in Firefox is getting new icons. Again.:
Do they remember scroll positions and history?
Sure why not. "Sure I bookmarked page X, but what I really want to see is the page I used to link to the page that linked to it. Thank God for that elf technology!"
You know if you have to constantly leave and return to pages you've scrolled 1/3rd of the way through and haven't finished reading yet, maybe what you need isn't "tab trees" but Ritalin.
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@JBert said in Firefox is getting new icons. Again.:
Take your pick from the designs on their blog:
Personally I think this would be a decent excuse to fire some designers, because it seems they have too much free time.
System 1 (left to right, top to bottom)
- TronFox
- Spanked firefox
- Bi-Lighting firefox
- Lawsuit from Iceweasle
- Chrome-holed
- Spanx
- It's a rocket ship
(_)_)::::::::D~~~~~~
- Origami is hard
- A Firefox, splayed open and pinned
- Thank you, but I already know the Mozilla team doesn't have a clue
- Two letter "C", but copied and rendered very poorly. Where C stands for Chrome. Because that's all Mozilla does these days
- Waveform of Mozilla's relevance fading into nothing.
System 2 (left to right, top to bottom)
- Someone cut off Firefox's tail
- Firefox with no guts
- Firefox after puking it's own guts onto it's tail
- Firefox, eviscerated and frozen (aka: ESR)
- That thing that you'd put in the middle of a vinyl record
- Nuclear waste
- It's also a rocket ship
(_)_)::::::::D~~~~~~
- Firefox's gender identity
- A digital picture, but the thing that's meant to show it is broken beyond repair. JSUT LIKE FIREFOX!
- Butthole
- World's easiest maze
- Closed Captioned for the intelligence-impaired designed
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@blakeyrat said in Firefox is getting new icons. Again.:
@Zecc said in Firefox is getting new icons. Again.:
Does Chrome have tab trees that are not on a separate window yet?
It has trees of bookmarks, like every browser since like IE4, but everybody seems to have forgotten bookmarks exists except me.
Fuck you, give me bookmarks.
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@Lorne-Kates said in Firefox is getting new icons. Again.:
Fuck you, give me bookmarks.
You're still running Win2k?
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@Lorne-Kates Were you trying to make some kind of point with this post?
Yes Firefox also has bookmarks. I didn't say otherwise. I don't know why you think I did?
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@pie_flavor tree of tabs.
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@blakeyrat said in Firefox is getting new icons. Again.:
You know if you have to constantly leave and return to pages you've scrolled 1/3rd of the way through and haven't finished reading yet, maybe what you need isn't "tab trees" but Ritalin.
I like that our understanding of UX has progressed all the way to prescribing drugs instead of writing better software.
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@TimeBandit said in Firefox is getting new icons. Again.:
You're still running Win2k?
That's from my work machine, running Win7 with themes turned off.