Spam detection...
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The comment (well what was on my clipboard - I added a bit more)?:
Now, maybe BASH isn't BASH anymore. Maybe
truehas been patched to fail. Maybe, maybe, maybe, but honestly, I'm wondering whose sanity is actually being checked in thesanity_check?I'm more interested as to why this wasn't put into a file of its own (with other things that are used frequently) and merely
sourced in every script.
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I was wondering: "why does this seems familiar somehow?"
Then I got it. This is basically Askimet all over again.
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@zerosquare said in Spam detection...:
I was wondering: "why does this seems familiar somehow?"
Then I got it. This is basically Askimet all over again.
It's not, though. There's no AI in the current comment moderation system. It's just an automated whitelist of people who have already made an approved comment and a blacklist of things that look like links.
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To show how effective this is, I approved 2 comments (one from @PJH and one from @Verence) and this is the current bottom of the queue (it's in chronological order, with the newest at the bottom of the last page).
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@pjh I know it's technically not a topic about funny Bash scripts but...
I'm more interested as to why this wasn't put into a file of its own (with other things that are used frequently) and merely sourced in every script.
The point of sanity check is to make sure the computer isn't completely broken to the point basic commands don't work as expected. You don't want your sanity check to rely on the
sourcecommand behaving sane, as this defeats the whole purpose of sanity check.
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@ben_lubar: it may need some kind of tuning, then. Someone who joined 4 years ago and has a 70k reputation is very unlikely to be a spammer, even if it's the first time they comment on an article.
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@zerosquare said in Spam detection...:
@ben_lubar: it may need some kind of tuning, then. Someone who joined 4 years ago and has a 70k reputation is very unlikely to be a spammer, even if it's the first time they comment on an article.
It's not the first time @PJH posted a comment, but this one does have a link in it.
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@gąska said in Spam detection...:
You don't want your sanity check to rely on the source command behaving sane, as this defeats the whole purpose of sanity check.
sourceisn't a command. It's a builtin.@zerosquare said in Spam detection...:
Someone who joined 4 years ago and has a 70k reputation
That bit's lying; 4 years is probably how long ago we moved over to Discourse. I've been around a bit longer than that.
I'm sure the fact I still have this lying around says something. What, I'm not sure...
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@pjh said in Spam detection...:
@gąska said in Spam detection...:
You don't want your sanity check to rely on the source command behaving sane, as this defeats the whole purpose of sanity check.
sourceisn't a command. It's a builtin.Builtin or not, it's still likely to not work in broken environment. On a broken system, you have no guarantee the shell itself isn't broken too (I'd say it's actually one of more likely things to be completely broken, due to how many almost-compatible versions there have been over years).
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@pjh said in Spam detection...:
I'm sure the fact I still have this lying around says something. What, I'm not sure...
Heh...looks like I joined during TDWTF's New Coke phase.
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Oh, are we posting our account creation times?
Here's mine...
I almost want to register a user named @activate-account now...
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@tsaukpaetra you made me go through my oldest posts.
TIL that numpad is called "grey" in Russian. TIL that I already learned it 4 years ago.
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@gąska said in Spam detection...:
TIL that numpad is called "grey" in Russian
To my surprise, I only found mentions of "Grey ..." meaning NumPad in 7-Zip manuals, on Far Manager forum, on a Ukrainian website about Microsoft Word and on Sublime Text forum (from someone with a Russian-sounding name). I thought it was more widespread. (Where did I learn "Grey" from?! No idea.)
I guess that must be a throwback to the times when some NumPad keys were actually grey combined with people learning computers in Russian schools from very old manuals.
Every Russian person I know calls NumPad just NumPad.
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@boomzilla Looks like I made an account just a bit after that; previously, I know I just lurked…
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@dkf I think I deleted this account confirmation e-mail
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@tsaukpaetra hmm?
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@activate-account said in Spam detection...:
@tsaukpaetra hmm?
Oh don't pretend you were mentioned, that's not how mentions work!
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@tsaukpaetra It would, indeed, be pretty weird if mentioning a non-existent user created them. The spam bots would have a field day.
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@scarlet_manuka said in Spam detection...:
The spam bots would have a field day.
@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa @aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaab @aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaac ....
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@scarlet_manuka The bad ideas thread is
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https://thedailywtf.com/articles/Special-Delivery How does a featured comment from before the spam system was implemented get held for moderation?
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@coderpatsy The moderation was retroactive. There’s a thread
of Ben working through the backlog.
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@pjh said in Spam detection...:
I'm sure the fact I still have this lying around says something. What, I'm not sure...
We're all polite people here, and won't comment on how you had nothing better to do on Valentine's day than to join the TDWTF forum.
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I've deleted my confirmation email, but I'm fairly certain I joined at about the same time as @boomzilla.
Though I suppose that's true for all of his alts.
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I don't have the confirmation e-mail any more, but I did find a notification from August 2006.
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@pjh said in Spam detection...:
@zecc said in Spam detection...:
Valentine's day
6 days.
It took someone 6 days to notice it.
1 second to notice, but 6 days to arrive at the thread.
