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@loopback0 said in Lime scooters:
@TimeBandit He can have a cold shower. It'll remind him why he shouldn't have bought a smart water heater.
Yeah, all the issues with feeling conveniences while not getting the benefit of being notified that the heating element is rotted.
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@Tsaukpaetra It can't turn the heat off, but it can reduce the temperature?
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@hungrier said in Lime scooters:
@Tsaukpaetra It can't turn the heat off, but it can reduce the temperature?
Yep. That's literally all the IoT functionality does. It's slightly less shit than it sounds.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Lime scooters:
@hungrier said in Lime scooters:
@Tsaukpaetra It can't turn the heat off, but it can reduce the temperature?
Yep. That's literally all the IoT functionality does.
It can't reduce the temperature to ambient?
@Tsaukpaetra said in Lime scooters:
It's slightly less shit than it sounds.
Citation required.
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@mikehurley said in Lime scooters:
Seems like a lot of wasted water and heat.
Wouldn't be nearly the only thing (and also not the most expensive thing) people waste for the greater convenience of trusting their problems to someone else. Isn't government babysitting people either. It's a private company that just happens to have suspiciously good relations with the government.
For comparison, how is it done in civilized countries? And Sweden obviously doesn't count, because it's a socialist country
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in Lime scooters:
For comparison, how is it done in civilized countries?
In general, the city pipes cold water to your house and you have a water heater that heats it. The kinds and types of heaters vary greatly, but they are almost all of the always providing hot water variety.
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@loopback0 said in Lime scooters:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Lime scooters:
@hungrier said in Lime scooters:
@Tsaukpaetra It can't turn the heat off, but it can reduce the temperature?
Yep. That's literally all the IoT functionality does.
It can't reduce the temperature to ambient?
No, this is the lowest setting.
Also, apparently I lied, you can tell it to turn off. But, it's not a function that activates just because there is no connection.
@Tsaukpaetra said in Lime scooters:
It's slightly less shit than it sounds.
Citation required.
See above.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Lime scooters:
@loopback0 said in Lime scooters:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Lime scooters:
@hungrier said in Lime scooters:
@Tsaukpaetra It can't turn the heat off, but it can reduce the temperature?
Yep. That's literally all the IoT functionality does.
It can't reduce the temperature to ambient?
No, this is the lowest setting.
Over 100Β°? What are you, a McDonalds coffee?
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@loopback0 It's not a water heater, it's an industrial-sized coffee maker.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in Lime scooters:
@mikehurley said in Lime scooters:
Seems like a lot of wasted water and heat.
Wouldn't be nearly the only thing (and also not the most expensive thing) people waste for the greater convenience of trusting their problems to someone else. Isn't government babysitting people either. It's a private company that just happens to have suspiciously good relations with the government.
For comparison, how is it done in civilized countries? And Sweden obviously doesn't count, because it's a socialist country
Unsure if you're asking me to respond or just making a snarky remark. In the vast majority of the US, apartments will probably have common hot water for the building and townhomes and standalone houses will have their own water heater. From what I understand it's becoming more popular to use the much smaller on demand ones (tankless) but I still have a traditional water heater that's essentially a tank with a natural gas burner under it.
For some US : I remember when I was looking at houses in 2006 some of the newer "tall and skinny" townhomes I looked at had the water heater in an upstairs carpeted closet instead of the utility room. Probably because there wasn't really a utility room in these weird houses. Seems like a disaster waiting to happen.
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I have an apartment, and my own water heater. It takes about two minutes for any hot water to show up in my bathroom in the morning1, so the first thing I do when I wake up is turn on the hot water and then go do other things while the pipes flush out. I can't imagine how much worse this would be if I got hot water from the city instead, unless the pipes are very well insulated with some recirculation in them.
1This WTF is mostly my fault, because I live alone in a 2-bed 2-bath apartment and I chose the room and bathroom that's on the other side of the suite from the water heater, instead of the one that's 2 inches away from it and gets hot water basically instantly. The other bedroom is actually my office and the other bathroom is unused unless I have guests.
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@mott555 said in Lime scooters:
This WTF is mostly my fault, because I live alone in a 2-bed 2-bath apartment and I chose the room and bathroom that's on the other side of the suite from the water heater
So just use the other bathroom?
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@loopback0 Too far away.
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@mott555 FWP is
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Related, are municipal water softeners a thing?
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@mott555 said in Lime scooters:
It takes about two minutes for any hot water to show up in my bathroom in the morning,
That is crazy, it shouldn't take that long to go that distance for hot water. Even in my parents house (probably 70 feet of pipe between the heater and the shower) it is only ~15 seconds to get hot water there.
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@loopback0 said in Lime scooters:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Lime scooters:
@loopback0 said in Lime scooters:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Lime scooters:
@hungrier said in Lime scooters:
@Tsaukpaetra It can't turn the heat off, but it can reduce the temperature?
Yep. That's literally all the IoT functionality does.
It can't reduce the temperature to ambient?
No, this is the lowest setting.
Over 100Β°? What are you, a McDonalds coffee?
I tried glitching the interface to go lower, but it relayed back up to the above.
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@TimeBandit said in Lime scooters:
@mott555 said in Lime scooters:
Too far away
Can't you drive there?
Getting vehicles into my suite is somewhat tricky. And yes, I'm speaking from experience:
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@mikehurley said in Lime scooters:
had the water heater in an upstairs carpeted closet
Yeah that's fucking retarded.
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@Dragoon said in Lime scooters:
@mott555 said in Lime scooters:
It takes about two minutes for any hot water to show up in my bathroom in the morning,
That is crazy, it shouldn't take that long to go that distance for hot water. Even in my parents house (probably 70 feet of pipe between the heater and the shower) it is only ~15 seconds to get hot water there.
I think it depends on what kind of faucets you have, especially if you have some of those "efficient" low flow ones. For instance the one in my kitchen sink takes way too long to fill up a 2 gallon watering can. Feels like it takes 5 minutes but it probably doesn't take that long, but still too long. It'd take about 30s in my utility room sink which really is just a faucet shaped pipe.
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@mikehurley said in Lime scooters:
@Dragoon said in Lime scooters:
@mott555 said in Lime scooters:
It takes about two minutes for any hot water to show up in my bathroom in the morning,
That is crazy, it shouldn't take that long to go that distance for hot water. Even in my parents house (probably 70 feet of pipe between the heater and the shower) it is only ~15 seconds to get hot water there.
I think it depends on what kind of faucets you have, especially if you have some of those "efficient" low flow ones. For instance the one in my kitchen sink takes way too long to fill up a 2 gallon watering can. Feels like it takes 5 minutes but it probably doesn't take that long, but still too long. It'd take about 30s in my utility room sink which really is just a faucet shaped pipe.
To be fair, I was talking about the sink, not the bathtub. The tub gets hot water in about 30 seconds. But being an ex-farmboy who was always covered in sweat, hay dust, diesel fuel, and cow manure by the end of the day means I'm an evening showerer, not a morning showerer.
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@mott555 said in Lime scooters:
I'm an evening showerer, not a morning showerer.
Evening bath, morning shower?
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@mikehurley said in Lime scooters:
Unsure if you're asking me to respond or just making a snarky remark
YMBNH
@mikehurley said in Lime scooters:
In the vast majority of the US, apartments will probably have common hot water for the building and townhomes
Yes, that's certainly the right solution. If done right away when the building was raised. Otherwise it's expensive. Remember, these are "the projects" (except half the country is like that). All kinds of people live here. In every building there are a few people that can't make the ends meet even right now, so they simply can't cover the costs, a few pensioners that don't give a shit and can't be convinced of anything. And then there's the rest of us, of variable amounts of income and equally variable disposition towards the common good.
Rarely any cooperative here can pull off any serious renovation, certainly not without EUSSR Cohesion Fund helping (and the people involved at all stages but the last having a good helping from that fund). In short, rarely anyone here has that kind of money, but more importantly no one here can be trusted with that kind of money.
A future problem would be that as more buildings tell the central to fuck right off, the central gets less money to run and maintain the existing system. That means rising prices for everybody who remains.
@mikehurley said in Lime scooters:
Related, are municipal water softeners a thing?
Yes. The hot water here is notably more... well, soft.
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@TimeBandit said in Lime scooters:
@mott555 said in Lime scooters:
Too far away
Can't you drive there?
Just maybe, to re-rail the thread, he could use a scooter.
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@Karla said in Lime scooters:
Just maybe, to re-rail the thread, he could use a scooter.
"Real" motorcyclists accuse the machine I posted a few posts up of just being a little scooter...
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@mott555 said in Lime scooters:
"Real" motorcyclists accuse the machine I posted a few posts up of just being a little scooter...
They obviously never tried a scooter off-road
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@mikehurley said in Lime scooters:
In the vast majority of the US, apartments will probably have common hot water for the building and townhomes
My last apartment had common water heaters for the whole building. There was never hot water. Also, they couldn't meter the water consumption per-unit, so they took the entire building's usage and divided the bill among all the residents, and because a few people apparently lived like blue whales or something, my water bill was always atrocious. My current apartment is metered per-unit and I have my own hot water heater. I always have hot water, and I use so little water that my monthly bill is like $10 now.
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@mott555 said in Lime scooters:
"Real" motorcyclists accuse the machine I posted a few posts up of just being a little scooter...
What real motorcyclists? Don't you merkins drive only mobility scooters (I think one of the popular models was something F-150)?
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in Lime scooters:
What real motorcyclists?
You know, the guys with the $40,000 Harley-Davidsons and 1500cc engines that the only ride one weekend a month when the weather's nice.
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@mott555 My current apartment has a common water heater using natural gas. I can't run out of hot-water. Also, the heating is hot-water. The rent includes hot-water and heating.
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@mott555 said in Lime scooters:
@Karla said in Lime scooters:
Just maybe, to re-rail the thread, he could use a scooter.
"Real" motorcyclists accuse the machine I posted a few posts up of just being a little scooter...
I did post before I saw that post.
Considering my bike, has no motor other than my legs I am certainly not going to get into a pissing contest over the size/power of bikes/scooters.
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@mott555 said in Lime scooters:
@mikehurley said in Lime scooters:
In the vast majority of the US, apartments will probably have common hot water for the building and townhomes
My last apartment had common water heaters for the whole building. There was never hot water. Also, they couldn't meter the water consumption per-unit, so they took the entire building's usage and divided the bill among all the residents, and because a few people apparently lived like blue whales or something, my water bill was always atrocious. My current apartment is metered per-unit and I have my own hot water heater. I always have hot water, and I use so little water that my monthly bill is like $10 now.
Seeing how @mott555 and @Applied-Mediocrity quoted me I should be more careful with commas and "and". Townhomes was meant to go along with standalone houses. Not that it matters much, except that I saw two people quote me the same way. Oops.
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@Karla said in Lime scooters:
Considering my bike, has no motor other than my legs
I have one of those, too, but it broke almost ten years ago and I've been too lazy to get it fixed. I could easily ride a bicycle to work, but there's no economic advantage to it since the motorcycle gets to work on about two teaspoons of gasoline.
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@TimeBandit said in Lime scooters:
@mott555 My current apartment has a common water heater using natural gas. I can't run out of hot-water. Also, the heating is hot-water. The rent includes hot-water and heating.
Other than the fact that I think we use oil, ours is the same.
We have our radiator off in our bedroom otherwise it gets way too hot. Without it, it gets way too cold but easier to put on layers.
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@Karla said in Lime scooters:
Without it, it gets way too cold but easier to put on layers
There's better ways to heat a bedroom
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in Lime scooters:
Don't you merkins drive only mobility scooters (I think one of the popular models was something F-150)?
Would it be a mistake to point out that my other vehicle is a big crew-cab 3/4-ton diesel pickup truck? (Equivalent to an F-250).
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@mott555 said in Lime scooters:
@Karla said in Lime scooters:
Considering my bike, has no motor other than my legs
I have one of those, too, but it broke almost ten years ago and I've been too lazy to get it fixed. I could easily ride a bicycle to work, but there's no economic advantage to it since the motorcycle gets to work on about two teaspoons of gasoline.
I did bike with some regularity before I got pregnant. It is a 10 mile trip,mostly down hill on the way to work.
I've lost a lot of conditioning since then and while I could probably bike to work IF, and that's a big IF, I got up early enough to bike there, lock my bike up, walk to the gym (about 5 blocks), shower/change and walk to work (about 8 blocks).
Also, this is the first year that my allergies wouldn't kill me in the process as well.
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@mott555 No, no, that's just fine. And for journeys to other countries you take an F-16
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@Applied-Mediocrity F-16's are short-range fighters. I'm not sure it's even possible for an F-16 to take off from my city and reach another country, not without a tanker escorting it. But there are some B-52's based not too far away from me...
EDIT: Looks like I was wrong about the B-52's, or at least Wikipedia doesn't mention them. I guess we don't host strategic bombers anymore. Seems like we mostly have C-130 and C-135 variants, but those ought to be suitable for international travel. Especially if the KC-135 is capable of burning the fuel in its transfer tanks.
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@mott555 said in Lime scooters:
I'm not sure it's even possible for an F-16 to take off from my city and reach another country
You could probably use a 737 Max.
Oh, right, maybe you won't get to another country without crashing
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@mott555 said in Lime scooters:
But there are some B-52's based not too far away from me...
Is... is the place called Burpelson, by any chance?
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in Lime scooters:
@mott555 said in Lime scooters:
But there are some B-52's based not too far away from me...
Is... is the place called Burpelson, by any chance?
In a manner of speaking. Burpelson was based on this place.
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@TimeBandit said in Lime scooters:
You could probably use a 737 Max.
I've got a few Arduinos lying around. Surely I can use one to make a fake angle-of-attack sensor to get around the MCAS issue, and just be extra cautious about not pitching up near the critical angle.
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