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@Vault_Dweller just needed that additional view...
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@Tsaukpaetra said in UI Bites:
BofA is ... cargo-culting. ... Fucktards.
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Adaptive Design™
the menu says "Home" and "Our Story". If it fits that is. They do remove the logo for some narrower viewports but obviously they only tested with "very big" and "pretty small".
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@LaoC Could also be their test platform had a different font geometry for the company name. Maybe their stylesheet specifes an extra-narrow font you do not have?
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@LaoC Could also be their test platform had a different font geometry for the company name. Maybe their stylesheet specifes an extra-narrow font you do not have?
Oh you sweet summer child
(hey, at least it's not a BMP)
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@LaoC Come on, give them a break, they already told you they are
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@ixvedeusi But are they Canadian?
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@Zecc Maybe they offer something else:
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@dkf
depending on your take this could increase your paycheck or your cost of living
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@Luhmann at least "letting the magic smoke out of other people's computers" seems to pay better than gamedev.
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Bought a 32 inch 4k monitor. Really enjoy having all that screen space. However, it has a single control - a button that brings up an on-screen menu and then you wiggle the button to navigate the menu. A very clumsy way of doing things, but the best part is:
The button is located on the BACK of the monitor.
I have a large desk and like many people, I have a lot of stuff on my desk. Whenever I want to do something -- turn the monitor on/off, or, change the input from my desktop to my laptop -- I have to reach over stuff on my desk and around to the back of the monitor.
I don't understand how anyone could use this monitor for more than 5 seconds and not immediately realize that this is a really bad UX design.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in UI Bites:
I don't understand how anyone could use this monitor for more than 5 seconds and not immediately realize that this is a really bad UX design.
It saved $0.20 so your complaint doesn't matter!
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Did it come with a remote control? I mean, it's a monitor so it wouldn't have much to do, but it's 32-inch so maybe they were expecting it to be used from across the room.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in UI Bites:
I don't understand how anyone could use this monitor for more than 5 seconds and not immediately realize that this is a really bad UX design.
I don't know about you, but I set up my monitor once ever, so the wretched row of ambiguous function-changing buttons have remained untouched once the setting of "stick to the main Displayport input and stay there" it's just gathering dust for bunny-making.
Wait, are you the kind of person that requires line of sight to type?
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@Gern_Blaanston said in UI Bites:
I don't understand how anyone could use this monitor for more than 5 seconds and not immediately realize that this is a really bad UX design.
Customers only realize it has bad UX after they've bought it, and because there is no warranty on good UX it does not matter to the manufacturer.
It saved $0.20 so your complaint doesn't matter!
It probably didn't. What it did was save ⅛ inch border somewhere so the monitor looks sle3e33ek!!1!1!
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@Tsaukpaetra said in UI Bites:
@Gern_Blaanston said in UI Bites:
I don't understand how anyone could use this monitor for more than 5 seconds and not immediately realize that this is a really bad UX design.
I don't know about you, but I set up my monitor once ever, so the wretched row of ambiguous function-changing buttons have remained untouched once the setting of "stick to the main Displayport input and stay there" it's just gathering dust for bunny-making.
Wait, are you the kind of person that requires line of sight to type?
I think you misunderstood. This has nothing to do with setting up the monitor. You do that once and forget about it.
But when I want to:
- Turn the monitor off
or - Switch input - I have a desktop and a laptop connected to the 2 HDMI inputs, and there's a Displayport input still available
I have to reach over the stuff on the desk, behind the monitor, press the button, then wiggle the button to navigate the on-screen menu.
Switching inputs is extra fun because you can only go forward, not back. So switching from HDMI-2 to HDMI-1 requires:
(1) Reach around behind the monitor
(2) Press button to bring up menu
(3) Wiggle the button to select the ambiguous unmarked icon for changing input
(4) Press button to select
(5) Wiggle the button downward to change the input to Displayport
(6) Wiggle the button downward again to change the input to HDMI-1Turning the monitor off also requires steps 1 thru 4, you just select a different, slightly less ambiguous unmarked icon.
I mostly leave the monitor on all the time now, and I have Windows set to put up a blank black screen after a few minutes of inactivity.
- Turn the monitor off
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@Gern_Blaanston but HDMI has an APCI-like control channel
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@Gern_Blaanston Was this ever a consideration before and during the physical act of purchase of said monitor? I mean, most of them are the same AU or LG panels, binned for the price range, so it's the convenience features like this that one should pay attention.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in UI Bites:
@Gern_Blaanston Was this ever a consideration before and during the physical act of purchase of said monitor? I mean, most of them are the same AU or LG panels, binned for the price range, so it's the convenience features like this that one should pay attention.
Unfortunately, I didn't pay attention to the control. I've owned quite a few monitors over the years and the controls have always been pretty reasonable. It never occurred to me to pay attention to the controls - especially since it's the same brand (Samsung) as my previous monitor.
My previous monitor had no physical buttons at all. It has an area on the lower right bottom edge of the monitor that you touch to perform various functions. It's a little weird but I was already used to it because I have a Samsung television with the same control layout. Apparently that was a big thing with Samsung a few years ago.
But at least the old Samsung's controls are on the front of the monitor where they are visible, easily accessible and it has a dedicated on/off so you don't have to go through a menu just to turn off the damn monitor.
Other than the completely retarded button thing, it's actually a very good monitor.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in UI Bites:
put up a blank black screen
You don't have it simply tell the monitor to sleep? It's effectively the same as pressing the power button anyways.
Unless you're using an OLED screen?
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@Gern_Blaanston Had to look around to see what you've got. Yeah, that Jog control is pretty stupid. I'd return it.
On the flip side, about the only times I've turned these monitors off since I got them were when the power was out (I have the main one on the UPS so I can shut down the computer if I'm using it) and when I moved. Otherwise I just let them go to sleep. Won't help you with switching inputs, though.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in UI Bites:
@Gern_Blaanston but HDMI has an APCI-like control channel
On higher end cables, but thats betide the pont. HDMI has a power-control protocol e.g. my Roku can turn my TV on and off.
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Won't help you with switching inputs, though.
Yeah if he's serious I would recommend a KVM. No need to use the monitor's UI at all! 🔫
And you can even use the same keyboard between devices! Why would anyone willingly use a laptop's keyboard anyways?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in UI Bites:
Why would anyone willingly use a laptop's keyboard anyways?
Because I routinely sit on the sofa and use my laptop? Trust me, in that situation a loose keyboard is a PITA.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in UI Bites:
Why would anyone willingly use a laptop's keyboard anyways?
Because I routinely sit on the sofa and use my laptop? Trust me, in that situation a loose keyboard is a PITA.
My sofa is my workstation. The only PITA I've found is worse than typical ergonomics and using a standard mouse is annoying.
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@Tsaukpaetra I have a laptop tray thing for that.
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@Tsaukpaetra I have a laptop tray thing for that.
Which presumably works just as well for real keywords as it does chicklets!
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@Tsaukpaetra I put the laptop on it, I put the mouse on it, I put it on my lap, job done. I have the screen at a comvenient angle and I'm not trying to peer at it at a distance or anything.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in UI Bites:
You don't have it simply tell the monitor to sleep? It's effectively the same as pressing the power button anyways.
Many Samsung monitors have an uncorrected firmware bug where telling them to sleep will either cause them to disconnect and reconnect (and wake the host machine back up somehow) or go into a coma that requires removing power for >5 seconds before they work again.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in UI Bites:
Why would anyone willingly use a laptop's keyboard anyways?
I use the keyboard on my work laptop, even when it's on a desk
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@loopback0 I am also in this post.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in UI Bites:
Bought a 32 inch 4k monitor. Really enjoy having all that screen space. However, it has a single control - a button that brings up an on-screen menu and then you wiggle the button to navigate the menu. A very clumsy way of doing things, but the best part is:
The button is located on the BACK of the monitor.
I have a large desk and like many people, I have a lot of stuff on my desk. Whenever I want to do something -- turn the monitor on/off, or, change the input from my desktop to my laptop -- I have to reach over stuff on my desk and around to the back of the monitor.
I don't understand how anyone could use this monitor for more than 5 seconds and not immediately realize that this is a really bad UX design.
I haven't used a new monitor in years, but from what I've heard about the "joystick nipple on the back" design it sounds like a huge improvement over the row of buttons along the bottom of the monitor that I'm used to
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I haven't used a new monitor in years, but from what I've heard about the "joystick nipple on the back" design it sounds like a huge improvement over the row of buttons along the bottom of the monitor that I'm used to
It is. Two of my monitors have buttons on the bottom, the other has the joystick on the back. The joystick is easier to use.
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@loopback0 I am also in this post.
You're the desk, the keyboard or the laptop?
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@TimeBandit said in UI Bites:
@loopback0 I am also in this post.
You're the desk, the keyboard or the laptop?
Or the problem between all of them?
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in UI Bites:
@TimeBandit said in UI Bites:
@loopback0 I am also in this post.
You're the desk, the keyboard or the laptop?
Or the problem between all of them?
The lint beneath the keys - the air between the lint - the darkness in the hidden snarl of cables. Who knows what lurks in these forgotten spaces?
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@Tsaukpaetra I have a laptop tray thing for that.
Only my Windows laptop has a tray. The MacBook doesn't even have an optical drive.
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@Arantor Those who will surrender a portion of liberty for a portion of convenience deserve neither.
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Only my Windows laptop has a tray.
Must be old. None of my (active) Windows laptops have a tray anymore.
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Only my Windows laptop has a tray.
Must be old. None of my (active) Windows laptops have a tray anymore.
I pushed the little button on mine one too many times and it up longer puts out.
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My tray is a wooden tray upon which my laptop sits…
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My tray is a wooden tray upon which my laptop sits…
...and sat it not upon that wood it would not be your tray?
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@Gribnit it's my tray, get your own.
Bonus: it is wooden and thus a suitable proxy for doubling up as a photography support.