WTF Bites
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:
@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
typing pinkies only is not conducive to exposition.
At least you weren't typing one-handed. I do not want to know about that. Not from you, and especially not from @Tsaukpaetra.
I'll have you know I can type fairly well one-handed!
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
it reminds me of old Pentium M laptops from back in the day.
You want some? I got some!
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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
@hungrier My X1 is different. The similar one is a P15.
Which X1 do you have?
Carbon Gen7 (Intel 10th gen) - I got it at the beginning of 2020.
- i7, 16G ram, 1T SSD, 14" 1920x1080 screen
I opted for the non-4K screen. Probably stick with 4K next time.
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:
@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
typing pinkies only is not conducive to exposition.
At least you weren't typing one-handed. I do not want to know about that. Not from you, and especially not from @Tsaukpaetra.
Technically, since my hands are fused at the wrists, I am always doing this.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
it reminds me of old Pentium M laptops from back in the day.
You want some? I got some!
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
it reminds me of old Pentium M laptops from back in the day.
You want some? I got some!
Could be worse...
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF Bites:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
it reminds me of old Pentium M laptops from back in the day.
You want some? I got some!
Could be worse...
Could be yet worse... ?
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Obvious clickbait is obvious.
What are these "super hidden" files? Well, first of all they're not files. They're NTFS alternate data streams. Imagine being a Windows expert and not knowing about alternate data streams.
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Obvious clickbait is obvious.
What are these "super hidden" files? Well, first of all they're not files. They're NTFS alternate data streams. Imagine being a Windows expert and not knowing about alternate data streams.
Really? Explorer shows those now?
I would have assumed the first two simply mean that they have the hidden or system file attribute set, while “super hidden” means stuff from a black list of “never show those”, or the MFT.
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Obvious clickbait is obvious.
What are these "super hidden" files? Well, first of all they're not files. They're NTFS alternate data streams. Imagine being a Windows expert and not knowing about alternate data streams.
Really? Explorer shows those now?
No. It's an artist's conception after reading the video title and nothing else.
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Well, first of all they're not files. They're NTFS alternate data streams.
Ah, so they just should be files, but are instead merely a named means of access to data. Without the limitations imposed by a centralizing theme. Go Windows.
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"look professional" says company with Facebook advert that's a screenshot of the iPhone Notes app
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Obvious clickbait is obvious.
What are these "super hidden" files? Well, first of all they're not files. They're NTFS alternate data streams. Imagine being a Windows expert and not knowing about alternate data streams.
Really? Explorer shows those now?
No. It's an artist's conception after reading the video title and nothing else.
Are you not infotained?
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Obvious clickbait is obvious.
What are these "super hidden" files? Well, first of all they're not files. They're NTFS alternate data streams. Imagine being a Windows expert and not knowing about alternate data streams.
The title does not say anything about "Windows experts", just unspecified "experts" (could be cardiologists or plumbers).
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@Kamil-Podlesak Or window washers.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in WTF Bites:
Just noticed this label on a Youtube video. And now I can't unsee it.
Beyond languages which do not differentiate between
r
andl
, there are also languages not differentiating betweenp
andf
. E.g. Indonesian lacksf
, and replaced it in all loan words withp
, likeNopember
.
Next comes a twist: Arab hasf
, but nop
, and many loan words are of arab origin. So when some one wants to pretend to be learned man, he replacesp
byf
, because that's the correct arab form, e,g.paham
->faham
(to understand).
But ... thanks to the colonial era, and then modern times, many more loan words are entering from western languages. Which often have bothp
andf
. And now things get funny:
In the balinese newspaper Bali Post, you'll sometimes findfornografi
instead of...
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@BernieTheBernie said in WTF Bites:
@Benjamin-Hall said in WTF Bites:
Just noticed this label on a Youtube video. And now I can't unsee it.
Beyond languages which do not differentiate between
r
andl
, there are also languages not differentiating betweenp
andf
. E.g. Indonesian lacksf
, and replaced it in all loan words withp
, likeNopember
.
Next comes a twist: Arab hasf
, but nop
, and many loan words are of arab origin. So when some one wants to pretend to be learned man, he replacesp
byf
, because that's the correct arab form, e,g.paham
->faham
(to understand).Another interesting pair is
h
(like inhe
) andch
(like inloch
), which is notoriously difficult to distinguish by many south-slavic or east-slavic speakers (west-slavic languages, however, have both and clearly distinguishes them). This is actually one of the big differences between Russian (noh
) and Ukrainian (has both). Yay, world-news-relevant trivia!Also, English, which has no
ch
(but it's mostly confused withk
, for some reason).But ... thanks to the colonial era, and then modern times, many more loan words are entering from western languages. Which often have both
p
andf
. And now things get funny:
In the balinese newspaper Bali Post, you'll sometimes findfornografi
instead of...that still makes sense, because the first half looks like it's from latin (fornicatio). Of course, latin/greek hybrids are ugly, but not that rare.
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@BernieTheBernie said in WTF Bites:
Beyond languages which do not differentiate between
r
andl
, there are also languages not differentiating betweenp
andf
. E.g. Indonesian lacksf
, and replaced it in all loan words withp
, likeNopember
.Also Greek
ɸ
went from pronunciation ph to f some time during antiquity and the Latin transcriptions did not change, spilling theph
digraph all over the vocabulary.Next comes a twist: Arab has
f
, but nop
, and many loan words are of arab origin. So when some one wants to pretend to be learned man, he replacesp
byf
, because that's the correct arab form, e,g.paham
->faham
(to understand).Yet, many transcriptions from Arabic and Persian do use
p
, mainly the traditional ones.
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So
in the last minutea minute late out company finally purchased those stupid Docker-against-Desktop licenses that we almost don't need except nobody was able to test whether Rancher-Desktop or other alternate installation works for them. But for a couple of people, adding them into the organization didn't work, so the admin raised a support ticket.That was early February. It's mid-March and the support didn't respond yet.
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@Kamil-Podlesak said in WTF Bites:
Also, English, which has no
ch
(but it's mostly confused withk
, for some reason).The English actually cope with
ch
mostly properly. It's because they have the Scots to insist that it be got right.
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It's because they have the Scots to insist that it be got right.
I'd just ignore them, nobody understands them anyway.
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It's because they have the Scots to insist that it be got right.
I'd just ignore them, nobody understands them anyway.
Eachrt? Wharravru!
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Obvious clickbait is obvious.
What are these "super hidden" files? Well, first of all they're not files. They're NTFS alternate data streams. Imagine being a Windows expert and not knowing about alternate data streams.
If it waddles like a duck, and it quacks like a duck...
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Obvious clickbait is obvious.
What are these "super hidden" files? Well, first of all they're not files. They're NTFS alternate data streams. Imagine being a Windows expert and not knowing about alternate data streams.
If it waddles like a duck, and it quacks like a duck...
Then it maybe is like a goose, or a swan, or a merganzer - or a duck even maybe, but who's gonna pay for a pond full of ducks?
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@BernieTheBernie said in WTF Bites:
MFT
What's that? Most Fungible Token?
The Fools & Toy Money thread is .There's a specific thread for Extremely Fungible Tokens.
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Obvious clickbait is obvious.
What are these "super hidden" files? Well, first of all they're not files. They're NTFS alternate data streams. Imagine being a Windows expert and not knowing about alternate data streams.
If it waddles like a duck, and it quacks like a duck...
I tried explaining that to once regarding why directory-manipulating functions in WinAPI have "file" in name. IIRC the popular consensus at the time was that I'm wrong and he's right.
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Obvious clickbait is obvious.
What are these "super hidden" files? Well, first of all they're not files. They're NTFS alternate data streams. Imagine being a Windows expert and not knowing about alternate data streams.
If it waddles like a duck, and it quacks like a duck...
I tried explaining that to once regarding why directory-manipulating functions in WinAPI have "file" in name. IIRC the popular consensus at the time was that I'm wrong and he's right.
I've similarly seen major pushback against the
rename
system call and/ormv
utility in linux, both of which perform both changing the name of a filesystem object (which windowsistas insist must be called a rename) and changing the directory in which it is stored (which windowsologists say is a move), possibly at the same time, but never between filesystems.
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Obvious clickbait is obvious.
What are these "super hidden" files? Well, first of all they're not files. They're NTFS alternate data streams. Imagine being a Windows expert and not knowing about alternate data streams.
If it waddles like a duck, and it quacks like a duck...
I tried explaining that to once regarding why directory-manipulating functions in WinAPI have "file" in name. IIRC the popular consensus at the time was that I'm wrong and he's right.
Yes, that's correct, you were indeed wrong then, and remain so to this day. Interoperability just leads to more problems.
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mv
utility
but never between filesystems.
From the man page:As the rename(2) call does not work across file systems, mv uses cp(1) and
rm(1) to accomplish the move. The effect is equivalent to:rm -f destination_path && \ cp -pRP source_file destination && \ rm -rf source_file
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@topspin I knew someone would correct me if I didn't look that up.
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@PleegWat actually, you can't have known that with certainty given the information you had at the time. Unless you did in fact look it up. H'MM?
ed. he may known for a fact to have been incorrect a-priori. stop being so suspicious.
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@Gribnit I knew, positively, that the system call doesn't support cross-filesystem operation. I wasn't sure about the command-line utility and was to look it up.
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@Gribnit I knew, positively, that the system call doesn't support cross-filesystem operation. I wasn't sure about the command-line utility and was to look it up.
But now you've found out anyway. Something must have happened.
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@Gribnit I knew, positively, that the system call doesn't support cross-filesystem operation. I wasn't sure about the command-line utility and was to look it up.
But now you've found out anyway. Something must have happened.
@topspin posted.
One of the easier ways to find out pedantic details is to make a post on these boards with both the question and a plausible answer you suspect to be wrong.
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@PleegWat especially if you're going for a cheap crowd-pleasing comment along the way like heaping the 'PHP is dumb, amiright?' type comments. Not in this case but certainly have observed such in these wilderness type lands.
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@Arantor We call that
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@Arantor We call that
Rather. Which is eventually consistent with a lookup, ergo, is a lookup for at least some purposes. Where's your lack of agency in the causal process of obtaining the information now?!!! AHAHAHAHA!
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@Gribnit If tricking someone else into obtaining the information for me is equivalent to looking it up myself, then that works for me.
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@PleegWat fair, but since it was a mechanistic process (arguable, depends on some threshold value of number of s and their gassiness, to see if the gas laws fit) that's not what happened, you looked it up here, albeit with deferred offloaded execution.
Having destroyed all savings in effort obtained, I rest my case.
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Just add nonsemantic filler until it makes sense. Start with, "uh", I might suggest. That may help particularly.
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@Gribnit I'm not trying to emulate you.
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@Arantor tbf it's really dumb
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@Kamil-Podlesak said in WTF Bites:
Another interesting pair is
h
(like inhe
) andch
(like inloch
), which is notoriously difficult to distinguish by many south-slavic or east-slavic speakers (west-slavic languages, however, have both and clearly distinguishes them).Except in Polish, where the distinction used to exist but disappeared somewhere around WW2.
Reminds me of my great-grandmother, who always called me and my siblings "dziatki", which is now a very archaic way to say "children". The little me was always confused by it because it sounds extremely similar to "dziadki", a common word in modern Polish that's a slightly derogatory way to say "grandfathers" (a little like "boomers").
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Except in Polish, where the distinction used to exist but disappeared somewhere around WW2.
Some think it wasn't real, only imported from Czech and Ukrainian:
Kazimierz Nitsch w Głosowni języka polskiego (cz. II, Kraków 1925, s. 8) słusznie pisał: „Odróżnianie h jako właściwość niepolska nie może być uważane za lepsze od nieodróżniania’’.
This seems plausible given how few Polish words (excluding loanwords and latin given names) have 'h'. We almost always use 'g' where Czech, Slovak or Ukraininan version has 'h'.
BTW, a funny thing has been done by the Yugislavians - in the latin spelling of Serbo-Croat cyryllic 'Х' is spelled as 'h'. It looks... uncanny. Let's be straight - It's just wrong.
Also, for lack of distinct 'h', Russians used to transliterate latin H as Г, always, also in foreign words and names. That's what gave them Gitler starting the war. Now they do it more phonetically, but they lose distinction between H and Ch.
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@sebastian-galczynski said in WTF Bites:
Except in Polish, where the distinction used to exist but disappeared somewhere around WW2.
Some think it wasn't real, only imported from Czech and Ukrainian:
Kazimierz Nitsch w Głosowni języka polskiego (cz. II, Kraków 1925, s. 8) słusznie pisał: „Odróżnianie h jako właściwość niepolska nie może być uważane za lepsze od nieodróżniania’’.
This seems plausible given how few Polish words (excluding loanwords and latin given names) have 'h'. We almost always use 'g' where Czech, Slovak or Ukraininan version has 'h'.
I'm rather skeptical of this theory, given that both 'h' and 'ch' as distinct letters in Polish language are older than the entire Ukrainian language, as well as Czech and Slovak (not to be confused with old/medieval Czech, which was as different from modern Czech as Polish is now). But yes, in the old times 'h' and 'g' were pretty interchangeable.
Historical linguistics are fascinating.
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WTF Bite of my day: So. You know ids, those things that should be unique, right? Well, in this case they weren't. Which makes doing a
<array>.find(x => x.id == otherId)
rather...well...not so great.