Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work
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@jazzyjosh Now I wonder if he would literally ask the employer "a lower sallary for when I change jobs", because that would do real wonders on his 'loyalty' stat...
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@jbert Based on the upvotes on mine and Blakey's post, @boomzilla wants a known idiot working for him.
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@jazzyjosh said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
@boomzilla wants a known idiot working for him.
Birds of a feather.
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@jazzyjosh said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
@jbert Based on the upvotes on mine and Blakey's post, @boomzilla wants a known idiot working for him.
And yet @blakeyrat keeps declining my offers!
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@boomzilla I like when @blakeyrat's signature becomes correct.
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@pie_flavor pity yours never will
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@jaloopa said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
pity yours never will
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@blakeyrat said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
@fbmac said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
Embrace, extend and extinguish tactics came from internal Microsoft documents, you can't claim they were just making things better.
It went like this:
Sun: "Java is perfect, we don't care that it can't use ANY Windows GUI features like accessibility or voice control or anything like that."
Microsoft: "well, we've followed your spec but we really think our developers want to add Windows-specific features, so we'll implement a few in their own namespace in a compatible way"
Sun: "MURDER DEATH KILL MICROSOFT EBILS OMGOMG OMG LAWSUITLAWSUITLAWSUIT!"
MIcrosoft: "Fine; then we won't adopt Java. Sheesh."
Oracle: "Yeah, Sun's flat busted, we're buying them now."
So you're right that Microsoft embraced and extended Java, but the "extinguish" part wasn't a homicide, it was a suicide.
@blakeyrat But Microsoft Java still exists. It's called C# and I remember when it was called J# for a hot minute. It was better though and Sun did not like that at all, but that's beside the point. Anyone every try and run a program written in Java on a 486? Yeah...the only thing that has made Java even somewhat usable is that hardware got better.
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@codejunkie said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
But Microsoft Java still exists. It's called C# and I remember when it was called J# for a hot minute.
There's three separate products that you seem to be conflating..=C# and J# are completely unrelated products.
J++: Microsoft Java implementation that @blakeyrat was referring to, supporting Java bytecode.
J#: Compiler for Java (announced in 2001, released in 2002 simultaneous with C#) targeting the CLR.
C#: New language (announced in 2000, released in 2002) targeting the CLR.
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@unperverted-vixen said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
@codejunkie said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
But Microsoft Java still exists. It's called C# and I remember when it was called J# for a hot minute.
There's three separate products that you seem to be conflating..=C# and J# are completely unrelated products.
J++: Microsoft Java implementation that @blakeyrat was referring to, supporting Java bytecode.
J#: Compiler for Java (announced in 2001, released in 2002 simultaneous with C#) targeting the CLR.
C#: New language (announced in 2000, released in 2002) targeting the CLR.Oh, I know they were, from a technical standpoint, three separate things, although I couldn't remember if J++ was actually what they called it at one point., but what I was trying to say was that it was an evolution of what was originally their Java implementation. There would probably have never been J#, C# or even .net for that matter if Sun never got butt-hurt and decided to sue them. But syntactically modern C# it's pretty much Java, however I don't use it unless I have to for some reason though.
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Looking up something on StackOverflow, I found this in the sidebar:
WAT?
(To prevent getting distracted by the sidebar I run a userscript on my work PC to filter that shit. My browser at home doesn't have it)
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@CodeJunkie said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
But Microsoft Java still exists. It's called C# and I remember when it was called J# for a hot minute. It was better though and Sun did not like that at all, but that's beside the point.
If the goodwill to sort things out had been there, things would have been patched up. But it wasn't. It really wasn't. Both firms had a pretty paranoid culture at this point (though about different things) and neither reacted all that well; things diverged fast and that lead to the lawsuit.
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@JBert said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
Looking up something on StackOverflow, I found this in the sidebar:
WAT?
Obvious answer is obvious: you grab her in the pussy.
Edit: having read the actual question, I would say Holy fuck check yourself into a psychologist or something. And your parents too!
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@dkf said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
@CodeJunkie said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
But Microsoft Java still exists. It's called C# and I remember when it was called J# for a hot minute. It was better though and Sun did not like that at all, but that's beside the point.
If the goodwill to sort things out had been there, things would have been patched up. But it wasn't. It really wasn't. Both firms had a pretty paranoid culture at this point (though about different things) and neither reacted all that well; things diverged fast and that lead to the lawsuit.
It would've been interesting world if C# was never made.