Blakeyrat pointing out NodeBB problems
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@mott555 said:
I just realized I habitually sit and wait for about 20 seconds after each post, in case the post fails and I need to re-submit it with minor differences to get past the dupe protection.
On NodeBB, that's 19.5 seconds too long; also, it doesn't check for dupes ;)
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Guessing that reputation here is skewed from the conversion of "likes" from the likes topic to Upvotes? Time to find abarker and see if his reputation is in the millions.
edit: aw, it's only in the 200Ks
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@boomzilla said:
@Nagesh said:
Discourse was fast too!
Spinner speed doesn't count.
I am serious. Of course community server was fastest if not for Akismet complaining about post everytime.
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@Nagesh said:
I am seriously wrong.
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@darkmatter said:
yeah, this forum seems eerily similar to dischorse in how it's built, except I haven't stumbled into 8 million bugs or annoying toasters in the first 15 minutes of using it.
If you want to, turn on browser zoom. 125% or 150% is enough to take you to a glorious minefield of bugs.
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@cartman82 said:
People push back against me as well. Eg. see my Windows 10 rants.
Yes; but people do it to me in response to perfectly valid complaints. And stretch and twist all logic out of recognition in the process.
Like in the NPM thread, people saying that NPM has vague, useless error messages because I didn't read the manual. Or that it saves files in the wrong folder (potentially causing a DoS if the Roaming AppData is under a quota, as happened to me a few years back with Aptana Studio) because I simply don't know enough about how it worked.
Because if I read the manual, or learned more about the implementation of NPM, those bugs would suddenly vanish. It turns out I have reality-warping super-powers, apparently? Or! Much more likely: people thought it was more important to call me a stupid idiot than to bother making any kind of rational sense while posting.
And while I don't necessarily mind people I don't know calling me a stupid idiot, it would be nice to just once, just once ever, post a thread and have some other kind of reply.
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@blakeyrat To be fair, @Yamikuronue was agreeing with you quite a lot, and I did give you a link to documentation on how to configure
npm
to put its cache where you want it; I think most of the bullshit was @lucas1 pretending thatnpm
is somehow magical and perfect, when anyone who's used it knows it's not
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@RaceProUK and I 100% agree with him on npm and most of his specific complaints about opensource software.
just not with the generalization that all of them suck. I think software that doesn't suck are very rare in any business model.
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@RaceProUK Yeah; I'm asking for people to make rational sense when they post. In another thread, you just said it's impossible for both an open source and closed source product to exhibit the same flaw, so your brain ain't exactly banging away on all 6 cylinders, huh?
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@blakeyrat You mean this post?
@RaceProUK said:
To be fair though, you do have a history of criticising open source for things closed source is also guilty of
Because that says the complete opposite of what you're now claiming
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@blakeyrat I had a big rant about how the zoom/resize window to get mobile view is just responsive design working as intended and how the majority of websites function these days, except in the middle of making my post I come across one of the bugs you mentioned earlier, and damn it's annoying. If you trigger the mobile view via zoom/resizing and start a post, then realize that posting in a fullscreen input window blows chunks, so you resize/unzoom your window back to get the desktop css... the post input box remains jacked and starts scrolling down off the screen because it thinks it needs to auto-expand to trigger a scrollbar.
So I stand corrected - certain out of the ordinary behavior causes bugs. But that's still a million times better than dischorse, where ALL behavior caused bugs.
A second interesting thing about going back and forth between mobile and desktop view is that nodeBB poops itself and loses the thread's contents while you edit your post... i'm looking at a blank page right now. Trying to navigate sent me to a "your page can't be found"... wtf?
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@darkmatter had to F5 to get it back.... ah, that's a great feature to make us feel like we're back at home, dischorse style.
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@RaceProUK protip: If there's a black dotted spinner, that means you lost connection to the server. Blue solid spinner means loading. If you see both, that means you need to not close the tab or you'll lose whatever you were doing.
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@blakeyrat said:
@darkmatter said:
yeah, this forum seems eerily similar to dischorse in how it's built, except I haven't stumbled into 8 million bugs or annoying toasters in the first 15 minutes of using it.
If you want to, turn on browser zoom. 125% or 150% is enough to take you to a glorious minefield of bugs.
Works for me. The UI even adapts to the smaller visible area and resizes some stuff to take less room!
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@darkmatter it also jelly-potatoed me at one point, from all the screen-resizing, so I hit [END] to get back to the bottom. That's when it took me to a 404 page instead. How's that for a button override feature.....
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@ben_lubar said:
If there's a black dotted spinner, that means you lost connection to the server.
Why is 'lost connection' a fucking spinner? Surely is better?
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@ben_lubar said:
Works for me. The UI even adapts to the smaller visible area and resizes some stuff to take less room!
It all worked great until I started a post and then unzoomed and resized my window. Then it shat brix until I submitted the post and finally F5ed
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@RaceProUK said:
@ben_lubar said:
If there's a black dotted spinner, that means you lost connection to the server.
Why is 'lost connection' a fucking spinner? Surely is better?
As long as it has a tooltip, it should be fine
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Can anyone tell me how to ignore some threads? I'm back to 94 unread threads, which means actually far more than that, and I really don't care about most of them. Some people have posted screenshots of an ignore button next to the watch button, but I know I don't have one.
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@Magus That button is for categories IIRC; there's no feature yet for ignoring/muting threads (a feature request has been logged)
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@Jaloopa said:
@Magus said:
I'm back to 94 unread threads
At least you won't get a kurobar when you have too many
You get a 99 or a 99+ instead. Randomly determined, it seems.
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Today, the "remember me" functionality greeted me with this:
{"code":"not-authorised","message":"A valid login session was not found. Please log in and try again.","params":{}}
I just love to see JSON error messages in my browser.
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never said that stop mis-representing my opinion.
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@RaceProUK That may be one of the worst unfeatures I've ever seen on a forum that sends you notifications about anything you read... Jeff didn't think forums had large threads, but these guys don't think people have anything else? What is wrong with people?
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@lucas1 I would if it didn't change every three seconds
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If the tab is in the background for a while, nodeBB ceases to pull in new replies when you go back to that tab, until you refresh it? Or does it just have a really long delay before it reactivates? I thought I gave it a minute or so before going to the unread list in a different tab and seeing that this topic was back at the top of the unread list... despite me having this topic loaded in a tab with no response after my last one.
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@NeighborhoodButcher said:
Today, the "remember me" functionality greeted me with this:
{"code":"not-authorised","message":"A valid login session was not found. Please log in and try again.","params":{}}
I just love to see JSON error messages in my browser.
That would not have solved the error message though!
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@aliceif said:
You get a 99 or a 99+ instead. Randomly determined, it seems.
I tend to get between 93 and 95, not really going down until I'm close to the 80s
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@FrostCat said:
I am not prepared to believe that without a doctor's note with his real name on it.
You guys done playing psychologists and diagnosing your fellow forum members without a shred of knowledge about the matter? Can we focus on the actual problems with NodeBB Blakey pointed out, so that you might actually start talking about something you don't not know jack shit about? Thank you.
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@ben_lubar said:
If you see both,
I don't think I ever seen one without the other, but I haven't been specifically watching them.
Edit: Wrong. I have seen the blue without the black, but not vice versa (I think).
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@darkmatter Leave him alone; can't you see he's emulating his hero @fbmac? ;)
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@boomzilla said:
@kt_ said:
Unfortunately there's no "mark as red" but I really think there should be!
Let's mark all posts as red! Or blue! Or pink! This would be a great feature.
Stylish thread is
"Why Aslan, but I'm practicing blakeythread-disruption", exclaimed Lucy, bewildered.
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@blakeyrat said:
Because if I read the manual, or learned more about the implementation of NPM, those bugs would suddenly vanish
Is that kind of like how reading the manual about how to get a particular Windows directory helps to make bugs caused by relying on environment variables with inappropriate assumptions about the meanings of the variables vanish?
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@darkmatter Another bug.
Go to @boomzilla 's profile page.
Right click on the picture of your profile
open in new tab
keeps opening tabs of boomzilla's profile for some reason.
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@DogsB Not a bug; the
href
of that particular<a>
tag is#
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@RaceProUK said:
@DogsB Not a bug; the
href
of that particular<a>
tag is#
Just retarded then because when I hover over it it says profile. I would expect it to go to my profile.
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@RaceProUK this really pisses me off. Don't people know you can attach click events to a link even if it has a proper href?
So I'd say it's technically a bug, just with a different description.
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Cookie timeout is too low. This is a comedy forum, not your banking website. I go one day without logging on on my work laptop, and its cookie is invalid and I have to log in again. Laaame.
I believe the generally-agreed-upon standard for websites of no importance is 2 weeks.
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@blakeyrat That might be Ben. I think he made a change last night that logged everyone out, though I might be mistaken.
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I still get overlapping widgets even on my work machine which does not have browser zoom turned on:
(Look how the toolbar overlaps the thread title.) (Although it is nice that I'm scrolled down and the thread title hasn't disappeared entirely, so it's a step forward.)
Awesome.
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@blakeyrat said:
I still get overlapping widgets even on my work machine which does not have browser zoom turned on:
(Look how the toolbar overlaps the thread title.) (Although it is nice that I'm scrolled down and the thread title hasn't disappeared entirely, so it's a step forward.)
Awesome.
FFS you've cursed us all
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@DogsB What browser? @ben_lubar put in a fix just a bit ago to not make the icons go down a row when the title is showing, but it clearly isn't working for you.
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@DogsB When I turn on browser zoom, the overlap goes away. Hahaha. Irony.
Of course, then the title doesn't show at all, so.
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@Yamikuronue It looks like Dogsb and I are both using Chrome.
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@Yamikuronue said:
@DogsB What browser? @ben_lubar put in a fix just a bit ago to not make the icons go down a row when the title is showing, but it clearly isn't working for you.
Hard refresh fixed it.