Fuck you Microsoft and your extremely narrow world-view
-
-
-
Obviously.
why.... that's almost evil enough to make me want to have a proper temper tantrum!
-
-
-
④ is the best trust level number!
Personally I feel microagressed by such blatant displays of privilege. I demand TL4 for everybody! For the people! Free the TL4! We are the 99%! Can I get a Hallelujah!
Filed under: flamewar starter pack
-
Oh, right, show desktop would be in the same place, wouldn't it?
Still, you're exchanging the "close" hot corner (the _|[]|x corner) for one that does nothing (bottom-left of the window).
I guess it's just I go all :jeff: whenever I see someone with the taskbar anywhere other than the bottom... That's one thing I've never understood the reason for...
-
taskbar anywhere other than the bottom
Wait until we get the option to put it in the middle of the screen!
-
No, fuck developers that make their software available only on non-free OS
Blow me. Win+Mac reaches 99.99% of my users. The other .01% don't use computers.
-
You, ah, know that now you can just hit the Windows key and start typing
mysql
or maybequery
and it'll find that program for you, right? sometimes you get lucky and only need a couple of keystrokes: for my,vi
brings upVisual Studio 2015
and Enter runs it--4 keys.
-
Still, you're exchanging the "close" hot corner (the _|[]|x corner) for one that does nothing (bottom-left of the window).
Huh? The _[]X buttons are still on the top-right corner of the window.Sure, the X isn't as conveniently positioned, but it's not that different from closing windows that aren't maximized. Just how frequently do you need to close windows anyway?
In fact, in my Linux WM I have put the close button on the left of the titlebar, so it isn't so easy to hit.
Edit: okay, I have to admit that in maximized windows the top-left corner becomes a second "hot corner".
-
-
-
Sure, the X isn't as conveniently positioned
Well, yeah, that's the issue. It seems like a small thing but I find not being able to go up to that corner and close my active window to be extremely frustrating. Plus I don't see any advantage to moving the taskbar up there - why do it?
(I also have almost everything maximized unless I have a reason not to (aero snap, etc). Probably , etc. I find that non-maximized windows screw with my workflow too.)
-
-
-
-
True. That was buttumed though
-
Meaning you just don't pay any bills?
-
Hey now, I only don't pay the bills I don't pay... And I do pay all the other ones.
-
What about a psychiatrist?
Maybe? As long as he doesn't pour drain cleaner in your eyes, you should be OK.
-
It seems like a small thing but I find not being able to go up to that corner and close my active window to be extremely frustrating.
It doesn't bother me personally. One gets used to the new position eventually. Trust me, the new position of scrollbars would frustrate you more. Edit: or not. Mouse wheels exist.Plus I don't see any advantage to moving the taskbar up there - why do it?
Don't. I'm not advocating you should do it. Just explaining why I do it.The advantage of having a vertical taskbar becomes apparent when you have set it to display window titles, because then you can have more open windows without the buttons becoming smaller. I usually have a bunch of browser and explorer windows open so this makes it easier to tell each of them apart.
You also get the date on the clock as an bonus.
Here's a screenshot taken from the 'net because I'm not on Windows at the moment.
You also trade a little horizontal space for extra vertical space, which is a good trade-off when you have a wide screen.
In Linux I have my taskbar on the bottom, because in my WM all buttons appear in chronological order and I can reorder them exactly like I want as well — including windows belonging to the same application, Microsoft! — so it's easier for me to find the exact window I want.
That and, well... Mate doesn't let me move the panel to the sides for some reason.
-
Blow me. Win+Mac reaches 99.99% of my users. The other .01% don't use computers
Its more like 99.0%. And this 1% is a big thing if your software is small and required for filling federal taxes or internet banking.
I'll probably just ignore your software if its not essential
-
@Gaska said:
icon-only taskbar
This is the only Windows feature I miss in every damned window manager ever. I have a dock installed just so I can get that.
The Xfce "Window Buttons" panel item has a config option to turn off the window names.
-
But it can't pin.
In other news, I got the icon only thing to work in KDE. Installed 4 at work, it's still a bit "meh", IMHO. At home I'm using testing repos and KDE 5 installed, which I'm actually enjoying quite a lot right now.
-
But it can't pin.
You can pin whatever launcher you like to the panel, and you can even hang little hierarchical menus off each one. You don't get the unified launch-button/window-button thing that Windows taskbars and docks give you, though.
Personally I loathe that (I like being able to open multiple instances of things without extra clicks to do it) so Xfce suits me very well.
-
my, vi brings up Visual Studio 2015 and Enter runs it--4 keys.
And what does
vim
bring up?edit
'd by @Scarlet_Manuka
-
Personally I loathe that (I like being able to open multiple instances of things without extra clicks to do it) so Xfce suits me very well.
Ever heard of a middle mouse button? Windows did and implemented a special surprise for you!
-
You don't get the unified launch-button/window-button thing that Windows taskbars and docks give you, though.
Which is what I'm looking for.
Personally I loathe that (I like being able to open multiple instances of things without extra clicks to do it) so Xfce suits me very well.
Shift + Left click? AFAIK that's the way it works on Windows too.
-
Consult a psychologist.
QFT. why would you want to run vi, if vim's soooo much better?
-
Fair enough.
It's a muscle memory thing for me. I set up my own boxes with two panels: launchers, indicators and clock in the top panel, and window buttons and workspace switching in the bottom one. I have launching a new thing and focusing an existing one in completely separate mental boxes, so attaching both actions to the same button just feels wrong.
If Xfce is otherwise good for you, you might want to play with DockBarX.
-
The advantage of having a vertical taskbar becomes apparent when you have set it to display window titles, because then you can have more open windows without the buttons becoming smaller. I usually have a bunch of browser and explorer windows open so this makes it easier to tell each of them apart.
You also get the date on the clock as an bonus.
You do know you can make the top/bottom taskbar taller, right? I have mine tall enough to display three rows of buttons (and with three you get
egg rollsthe date):
Auto-hide enabled, so I don't lose the screen real estate.Filed under: Why doesn't the taskbar show the snipping tool when I'm snipping the taskbar?
-
You do know you can make the top/bottom taskbar taller, right?
Yes, butYou also trade a little horizontal space for extra vertical space, which is a good trade-off when you have a wide screen.
Making the task bar taller is doing the opposite of that.Auto-hide enabled, so I don't lose the screen real estate.
Fair enough. I'm personally not a fan of autohide. But hey, what works for you works for you and what works for me works for me.
-
And this 1% is a big thing if your software is small and required for filling federal taxes or internet banking.
People who work, have money and pay taxes use Windows and/or Mac.
-
(and with three you get egg rollsthe date):
You can also get the date by unchecking "use small icons"
-
You can also get the date by unchecking "use small icons"
WARNING!!!mm-dd-yyyy
DETECTED!!!
-
But what do you do when you want to run vi?
I do not understand the confusion of ideas that would cause someone to ask such a question.
-
Auto-hide enabled
three rows of buttons
oh, yo`ure one of those.(also: DISCOOOOOOURRRRSSEE! I selected those in the opposite order they appear.)
(also also: I just discovered ctrl+win+left/right arrow switches desktops. That was discoconcerting.)
-
@HardwareGeek said:
three rows of buttons
oh, yo`ure one of those.Yes, I am. Also, notice that I have so many Chrome windows open that they're collapsed to a single icon; even three rows is not enough to display them individually. :P
-
-
I do not understand the confusion of ideas that would cause someone to ask such a question.
Agreed. There is absolutely no reason to run vi instead of vim.
-
-
-
-
-
@FrostCat said:
FTFY
Ah, you prefer emacs!
Technically that's true, but I barely know how to use it.
But who doesn't like an editor that's also a newsreader, email client, IDE and command shell?
Other than @blakeyrat
-
Auto-hide enabled, so I don't lose the screen real estate.
Oh wow, someone else uses auto-hide! I thought it was just me.
-
But who doesn't like an editor that's also a newsreader, email client, IDE and command shell?
You can also use it to browse reddit and play chess, among other things.
-
No that's not doing it wrong, it's just a case of "oh, I'm sorry to hear that....."
-
But who doesn't like an editor that's also a newsreader, email client, IDE and command shell?
Don't forget food shop!