The Official Woody Woodpecker Thread
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if they are both suffering from something that is out of their control aren't they both victims them? Equally deserveing of sympathy and help.
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And yet "not guilty by reason of insanity" is not a get-out-of-
jailsome-form-of-imprisonment-free card. If you harm others as a result of your phobia, that needs to be stopped, whichever definition of phobia it falls under.
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And yet "not guilty by reason of insanity" is not a get-out-of-
Yes but instead of victimising them by calling them bigots shouldn't you be helping them get the help they need?jailsome-form-of-imprisonment-free card. If you harm others as a result of your phobia, that needs to be stopped, whichever definition of phobia it falls under.
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Not if their attempts at justifying their actions afterwards indicate that it's the bigoted kind of phobia.
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But they have no control over their actions. You're saying its okay to victimise one set of people for something they can't control but not another group? You have a horrendous double standard going on there.
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But they have no control over their actions.
Bigots definitely do. It's inherent in their choice to victimize other people.
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3 posts this time. I think if I try hard enough I can get you to do it one. I've an entire working week so this should be a fun project!
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@LaoC said:
Is there anyone who doesn't? I for one have done so from the start.
Good for you ...I guess. I can't be bothered to sift through the posts again but I think there was a point where you started to compare it with claustrophobia and from other people's reaction it was clear that at least they assumed you were talking about transphobia as it is usually defined
Woe to the "SJW" who'd naΓ―vely expect such an argument not to be ripped apart on the spot., not as clinically defined phobia you apparently invented on the spot.
What makes you think I did?@LaoC said:
The only way to define "correct" in natural languages that's not completely arbitrary is to refer to current usage. "Has been like this for a century" is most certainly "current".The point is that there hasn't been any kind of "inaccurate appropriation", at least not by anyone alive today.
That this incorrect redefinition occurred long ago doesn't change the pointthat you yourself struggle to get it easily understandable when you are talking about transphobia as a disgust towards trans and when as a clinical fear of trans.
Remember I'm debating people who fail to recognize I'm talking about a medical type of phobia when I say "medical phobia".@LaoC said:
Bigoted phobia doesn't traumatize you no does it make you freak out.@Maciejasjmj's initial post in this subthread described precisely symptoms of a clinical phobia
How do we differentiate clinical phobia from bigoted phobia then?@LaoC said:
Do we have any present here?
No, I didn't know it was your birthday.Sorry, I couldn't make more sense out of your post.
You probably missed @polygeekery's
struggle with orthography.
I'm not sure who is responsible for the misappropriation of the word for "in a particular place" as one meaning "gift" but I'd like to complain about it.
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3 posts this time. I think if I try hard enough I can get you to do it one. I've an entire working week so this should be a fun project!
Yourperception is simply because you got the reference for "their" wrong.
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An irrational fear of something resulting in severe distress upon encountering that thing is clinical phobia.
Yes.
Bigoted phobia is taking discriminatory or harmful acts against a person because of some factor about themselves which is beyond their control.
Wait, why is "beyond their control" there? Are you saying if it is under my control but I were to choose to hate gays, it wouldn't be homophobic?
Anyway I was asking how can I tell which one is being talked about when I see "transphobic" for example, not that I don't understand the definitions, although now that you put control in there, I'm confused again.
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Wait, why is "beyond their control there"? Are you saying if it is under my control but I were to choose to hate gays, it wouldn't be homophobic?
No, "themselves" and "their" are referring to the nearest noun to which those pronouns could refer to, which is "a person".
I am saying that it is under your control to choose to hate gays for a factor which gay people cannot control, being gay, and it would be homophobic.
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What makes you think I did?
It's first time that I recall transphobia being used in the original "phobia" sense, not as the "term for prejudice".
The only way to define "correct" in natural languages that's not completely arbitrary is to refer to current usage. "Has been like this for a century" is most certainly "current".
I'm not saying it's incorrect usage currently. I'm saying the redefinition that occurred a long ago was at the very least unfortunate if not incorrect and causes
disambiguity now.much sufferinga lot of enjoyment for us trollsI'm debating people who fail to recognize I'm talking about a medical type of phobia when I say "medical phobia".
I know discosearch hardly counts as evidence but this looks like the first mention of phrase "medical phobia".
Bigoted phobia doesn't traumatize you no does it make you freak out.
Sorry, I was probably unclear as both @Fox and you misunderstood me. What I was asking is how do I know which one you are referring to if you just say "transphobia"?
You probably missed @polygeekery's struggle with orthography.
Ah, no I didn't miss that and I didn't miss your first calling him out on it. But I missed the fact that your latest post still referenced that stuff.
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Apologies, I did misread it.
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I am saying that it is under your control to choose to hate gays
But that then only refers to the prejudice phobia, right?
If we are talking about cuddling in the corner, rocking back and forth phobia, it's not under one's control?
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Correct, on both counts, though I have yet to meet or hear of anyone who's been driven to such a state by the presence of gay people.
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I have yet to meet or hear of anyone who's been driven to such a state by the presence of gay people.
Widen your horizons, you narrow-minded homophobophobe. Just because you haven't met them, doesn't mean they don't exist
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Then by all means, you person who is literally too stupid to debate, provide some evidence that such people exist!
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Come over here and I'll try to do my best impression of rocking back and forth.
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Thanks, but no, thanks. Don't take it personally, you are just not my type.
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I disagree. That's wrong. You're just prioritizing Appeal to Emotion arguments. Provide some actual evidence that I'm not your type.
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Appeal to Emotion
Woah, careful there. Next you'll be saying that facts are more important than feelings when talking about one's sex/gender.
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This is the part where you're supposed to go find stories of people engaging in heterosexual relationships, photos of babies, and scientific evidence about how procreation occurs in humans, so that I can call it all bullshit and once again proclaim that you are literally too stupid to debate.
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people engaging in heterosexual relationships
Admit it, you are just after my home videos, aren't you?
photos of babies
Ew, none of these, I may be a pervert, but certainly not that kind.
scientific evidence about how procreation occurs in humans
I can see how you'd have trouble with understanding that. But if a man and a woman love each other very much... Let me get back to you on that, it's a long story.
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Monster!
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Monster Girl!
FTFY
Filed under: They're like Japan's version of anthromorphized animals, except not hideous and a lot more lethal than the western one.
EDIT: The pink-haired girl I'm using as my avatar is *not a monster girl*. She's a robot.
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The uploader has not made this video available in your country.
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Oh, it's just more Lily Allen.
Weird how it's actually available in Germany, of all places, though.
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Also, anthropomorphic animals in western culture can still be quite lethal.
Filed Under: Werewolves.
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it's actually available in Germany
http://cdn.instructables.com/FT5/GF93/I70AWRQO/FT5GF93I70AWRQO.MEDIUM.gif
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For what it's worth it was available here too.
I don't know if I should be happy about that - at least she's nice to watch, the song is meh.
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EDIT: The pink-haired girl I'm using as my avatar is not a monster girl. She's a robot.
I keep thinking angelic layer for some reason. What anime is it from?
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Well, the most common place I've found any of my videos to be banned from is Germany, so it's a huge
when something isn't available in the US but somehow it's available there. The only time any of my videos have been banned from the US on YouTube is when they've been banned from literally every country on Earth.
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No anime. A PC game.
Her name is Kae, the game she originally appeared in is called "Suguri". It's not a game I could recommend - it's primarily based on being a PAIN IN THE NECK to play.
But she also appears in better games the developer of Suguri made.
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What's the difference? Does it have more trans categories you enjoy?
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Have you met an English major? They suck the fun out of reading for fun, and they seem to enjoy doing so.
The best man at my wedding had been an English major. I had given him a puzzle thing that drove him crazy because he couldn't figure it out (it was a bunch of wooden blocks held together by a cord or something, and the goal was to put it into a cube).
When I was a groomsman in his wedding, he gave me a copy of War and Peace in an attempt to get back at me. I really enjoyed reading it, though I had a devil of a time keeping all those damned Russian names straight.
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keeping all those damned Russian names straight.
I'm part-Russian and I hate that Russian books can refer to the same character in a wild variety of ways, due to having patronimics you have to remember at least three names for each person because they could be referred by each of those names alone in a conversation.
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War and Peace
Oh, and while I enjoyed the novel as a whole, I really hated the last volume.
IIRC the story bascially ended before it and the whole volume was Tolstoy whining about war and politics and stuff.To be fair, I was still in middle school so it might have went a little over my head but I doubt I'd enjoy that last volume even now.
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I really enjoyed reading it, though I had a devil of a time keeping all those damned Russian names straight.
This pretty much describes my experience reading The Silmarillion back in seventh grade, except instead of Russian names I had divine, elvish, and human names from all sorts of different civilizations to keep track of.
remember at least three names for each person because they could be referred by each of those names alone in a conversation.
Also, this.
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This pretty much describes my experience reading The Silmarillion back in seventh grade, except instead of Russian names I had divine, elvish, and human names from all sorts of different civilizations to keep track of.
When I first read Lord of the Rings in junior high, I was very confused. I mixed up Sauron and Saruman a lot.
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*affected English Major attitude*
No, Tolkien obviously did it in order to make use of foreshadowing in the first novel to foreshadow Saruman's sudden yet inevitable betrayal, and as symbolism for the evils of the letters s, a, r, u, and n in rapid succession. From this, we can infer that Tolkien believed the planet Saturn to be the nexus of all evil in the universe.
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Wait, how many degrees do you have again?
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Just the one, but I did spend a lot of time dealing with English Majors and having to learn their
languagedialect so that I could get through high school and pass my core curriculum in college.
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If we are talking about cuddling in the corner, rocking back and forth phobia, it's not under one's control?
Not in the actual rocking back and forth moment, but phobias capable of causing such moments are known to respond well to psychological intervention. If I had a phobia that I knew was likely to cause harm to me or others or both, I would certainly seek to rid myself of it. And in fact I did:
@flabdablet said:I used to hope never to find myself in the situation where a large huntsman spider dropped in my lap off the sun visor while I was driving at 100km/h, because I expected that such an event might actually kill me. Then I realized that I could do something about that worry, and spent time re-evaluating my beliefs about huntsman spiders and training myself not to react to them with unreasoning terror. I've since had reason to be glad of having done that, because in fact that very thing did happen, and instead of crashing my car I just let the spider climb up me and onto my seatbelt and find its way into the back seat (including a side trip around my hair along the way).
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let the spider climb up me and onto my seatbelt and find its way into the back seat (including a side trip around my hair along the way).
Inb4 someone says that you obviously were not of sound mind for allowing such a thing to happen, and suggests that you seek mental help to treat your desire to wallow in spiders.