Spaces in file paths, part 7.38*10^89
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Can I make a "cunning linguist" joke here or is that too childish?
Yes.
Filed under: or did you mean xor?
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Do Eclipse users not understand what flash drives are?
You're thinking they don't understand. That's wrong. They just don't care much about the difference.
(If they did care, they'd put a workspace on the drive and switch the whole lot. I don't bother with that.)
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Filed under: or did you mean xor?
Same result. Unless it's so childish he just has to make it on this forum, because this forum is perfect place for childish behavior.
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Well, we do have a forum member who claimed that putting a gun on a table in front of him was exactly equivalent to giving a gun to a toddler.
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@hungrier said:
I'm actually wondering what kind of keywords you would have to use to avoid finding the solution.
"eclipse open maven project" leads to all sorts of results for importing the project instead of just opening it. Do Eclipse users not understand what flash drives are?
It's not so much that as the fact that Eclipse has this mad little world that it keeps its project(1) in, and any project(2) located outside that world has to be imported into that world before it can be opened.(1) There's some justice in arguing that it only keeps one project in the workspace. But only some.
(2) This is a more conventional use of "project".
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Have you ever once seen a program aimed at non-programmers that got font rendering wrong? Ever? Once? Once ever? No. No you haven't.
According to you, every open source piece of shit should qualify.Make up your mind for fuck sake !
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"eclipse open maven project" leads to all sorts of results for importing the project instead of just opening it. Do Eclipse users not understand what flash drives are?
I've imported projects in eclipse from arbitrary places just fine on several occasions. IIRC there's a checkbox on the import page to prevent it from copying it to the workspace and instead just open the project directly.
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+1.
The correct choice between Eclipse and Netbeans is "Use IntelliJ"
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I guess I just don't understand the Eclipse way of thinking. As I said, I don't like "workspaces" - I'd like to have multiple projects open at once even if they aren't even remotely related to each other, and not in an 'all or nothing' fashion.
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Have you ever once seen a program aimed at non-programmers that got font rendering wrong? Ever? Once? Once ever? No. No you haven't.
Yes. Yes I have.
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Well, we do have a forum member who claimed that putting a gun on a table in front of him was exactly equivalent to giving a gun to a toddler.
Just because the thread contains out of context misquotes doesn't mean you have to join in with your own.
Try making a tranny joke instead.
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The correct choice between Eclipse and Netbeans is "Use IntelliJ"
And then the correct answer becomes "Use Textpad with an imported highlight file".
It's a net gain for productivity.
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I'd like to have multiple projects open at once even if they aren't even remotely related to each other
Me too. All in the same workspace.
Just forget the concept of a workspace, create one, make it default, and treat it like Netbeans after that.
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Just forget the concept of a workspace, create one, make it default, and treat it like Netbeans after that.
What if I want to unplug my flash drive and only some of the projects are on it? Is there an easy way to 'close' projects?
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@Lorne_Kates said:
Just because the thread contains out of context misquotes doesn't mean you have to join in with your own.
You didn't respond when I asked for clarification, so objection overruled.
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The correct choice between Eclipse and Netbeans is "Use IntelliJ"
It does look shiny and nice! I was an interview where it hard locked twice during the coding section. Had to be shut down from the command line twice. The interviewer still had the gaul to tell me it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. I lost 30 seconds of work twice. That's a fuckton in the middle of an interview.
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Perhaps in
BizarroBlakeyworld, only programmers use OSS.
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Since no one has mentioned how the SWT (used by Eclipse) and Swing (used by Netbeans) GUI toolkits are different, I'll mention it.
SWT uses native widgets whenever possible. Swing never uses native widgets.
Not surprisingly, SWT tends to get things like font sizes right since it's just a thin wrapper around the Windows Common Controls library (comctl32.dll).
As an extra bonus, IBM funded SWT for quite some time, so controls that aren't in comctl32 (and are thus faked to look like standard Windows controls) still tend to look better than Swing controls do.
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Did you know that Eclipse can open additional copies of itself pointing at different workspaces?
Granted, you can open additional windows in the same workspace by using Window, New Window instead of trying to open Eclipse again.
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I don't understand what this has to do with? I'd be surprised if it didn't support that, but I don't really use multiple windows of the same program anyway. Sorry for not understanding you.
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As far as I'm aware, most IDEs don't allow you to open multiple unrelated projects in the same window.
Visual Studio doesn't1. Eclipse doesn't. I'll admit I haven't tried it in a lot of IDEs, but these two are arguably two of the most widely used IDEs out there.
1I just tried this in VS2013. If you open a new .vcxproj file using File, Open, Project/Solution it will close the current project. I assume the same is true for .csproj files.
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most IDEs don't allow you to open multiple unrelated projects in the same window
Netbean and Qtcreator at least let you do it.Why the hell not ?
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Yeah Visual Studio only lets you have one "solution" open at a time, but NetBeans lets you have multiple projects open at once with no concept of a solution or workspace, and I believe Sublime Text does too.
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Never had it hardlock before.
It's not nice on system resources, sure, but if you can run it, it's an awesome IDE
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Well, Notes and Eclipse are both made in Java, so I guess it'd make sense they're siblings.
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It's not nice on system resources
I've always wondered, why are so many IDEs so resource-intensive? Visual Studio and NetBeans both max out my RAM, and if I want to have Chrome open at the same time I'm basically limited to my hard drive speed. Is it all the caching required to make intellisense/hinting faster?
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Well, we do have a forum member who claimed that putting a gun on a table in front of him was exactly equivalent to giving a gun to a toddler.
I've been known to say that handing me a gun would be the same as shooting me in the head, but that's only because I know that that would be exactly what I would do if handed a gun. My insanity shouldn't dictate other people's actions.
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The correct choice between Eclipse and Netbeans is "
Use IntelliJfuck this Java shit, use Eric"TTFY.
Filed Under: hey, don't look at me like that, there are languages which I like other than Lisp
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Pedantic note: AFAIK it was actually 96 DPI, and scales it to whatever. If you're at 92, well there's your problem! Windows will make almost EVERYTHING without special "I can handle Windows DPI Great!" flags look atrocious if you're not at 96.
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Eclipse doesn't.
allow you to open multiple unrelated projects
It does. One workspace, lots of unrelated projects
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Chrome uses more memory than Eclipse does for me.
SQL Developer is usually king of the "how much of your memory can I eat" game though.
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As far as I'm aware, most IDEs don't allow you to open multiple unrelated projects in the same window.
That makes sense, though. It's also not a big deal, since a project can be in many solutions-- just make an ad-hoc solution containing the projects you're interested in. (Yes, it's an additional step, but it's not like VS makes it IMPOSSIBLE OH NOES!)
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My insanity shouldn't dictate other people's actions.
Saying that proves that you're more sane than the bra-fox.
Filed Under: hey, don't look at me like that, there are languages which I like other than Lisp
What about factor?
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Visual Studio and NetBeans both max out my RAM,
Visual Studio is more bloated than the 2008 version, true. But from my experience the only thing that really makes it feel slow is ReSharper. Uninstall that, and it's perfectly fine.
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Pedantic note: AFAIK it was actually 96 DPI, and scales it to whatever.
It was a typo, fuck off.
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typo
Edit: Also, I did preface with Pedantic Note. Full disclosure, that means you can't get mad at me.
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You didn't respond when I asked for clarification, so objection overruled.
Similar to "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof"
Extraordinary stupidity don't require even minimal refutation.
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@Lorne_Kates said:
Extraordinary stupidity don't require even minimal refutation.
Which is why I shouldn't have bothered requesting clarification.
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SQL Developer is usually king of the "how much of your memory can I eat" game though.
more so than chrome running discourse?
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While you can do it that way, it's no different than adding a bunch of unrelated projects to an ad hoc Visual Studio Solution (which @blakeyrat already mentioned).
The question is... why would you want to do that?
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@loopback0 said:
SQL Developer is usually king of the "how much of your memory can I eat" game though.
more so than chrome running discourse?
Discourse tabs aren't usually open long enough for it to properly munch RAM.
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Yeah I have trouble imagining a scenario in which you have two projects that aren't even remotely related to each other, but you want them in the same Visual Studio window layout.
If you're doing some nasty copy-and-paste between them or some shit, you can just open a second instance of VS and do it that way.
Every other use (for example, one uses a DLL from the other) implies a relation between the two that would make it more sensible to simply put them in the same solution in the first place.
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The question is... why would you want to do that?
Everyone seems to be getting hung up on the workspace thing, when you can just create one, set it as default, and completely forget it ever exists. Which is exactly what I do.
Then you just open and close projects as you fancy. Related, unrelated, whatever.Workspaces in Eclipse aren't constantly adding extra steps to stuff, you can completely ignore they exist.
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Workspaces in Eclipse aren't constantly adding extra steps to stuff, you can completely ignore they exist.
Yeah but don't you need a "standard" workspace set for, for example, a project which relies on compilation of a second project first? (That is, one project is a library used by the other.)
I've heard as a major complaint of Eclipse that there's no way to communicate this relationship to the IDE, and as such either every developer has to set it up manually, or you have to check in the workspace files with the code (which then breaks, because they're cram-packed with absolute paths.)
If I've heard wrong, let me know.
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In the brief time I have to admit I was quite impressed by what was there straight out of the box. More over how much faster than eclipse it was on his hunk of junk core 2 duo. The problem is though, the speed difference appears to disappear on the i7 my current employer has given me and I don't have time to learn all the keyboard shortcuts again. Also I have dependanices on propritary plugins for eclipse.
Well, Notes and Eclipse are both made in Java, so I guess it'd make sense they're siblings.
In the same way chimps are our siblings...Yeah but don't you need a "standard" workspace set for, for example, a project which relies on compilation of a second project first? (That is, one project is a library used by the other.)
What you've described is essentially eclipse RCP development where each project is a is a seperate compilation unit but could be part of another project. You set out your dependancies in the manifest and let the ide and build tool automagically find the other projects.I've heard as a major complaint of Eclipse that there's no way to communicate this relationship to the IDE, and as such either every developer has to set it up manually, or you have to check in the workspace files with the code (which then breaks, because they're cram-packed with absolute paths.)
If I've heard wrong, let me know.
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I've heard as a major complaint of Eclipse that there's no way to communicate this relationship to the IDE,
You can add the folder/jar that's the output of a project as a library to another. The projects I have in Eclipse are sufficiently unrelated that it's nothing I've had to do more than once and went for the first thing that worked, so there might be a smarter way to do it. Then again, if there are complaints about exactly that, maybe not.
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