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@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
I don't see anything here about the beavers providing advance notice and a stopgap provider.
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@Gribnit well, no, but they apologized for that.
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@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
@Gribnit well, no, but they apologized for that.
not enough. not nearly enough. their time will come.
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Truly we are in marvelous times:
https://blog.mightyapp.com/mightys-secret-plan-to-invent-the-future-of-computing/
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@Dragoon said in In other news today...:
After 2 years of hard work, we've created something that's indistinguishable from Google Chrome
but, this bears repeating.
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@Gribnit said in In other news today...:
@Dragoon said in In other news today...:
After 2 years of hard work, we've created something that's indistinguishable from Google Chrome
but, this bears repeating.
Which thread?
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@Dragoon Search indicates, 10 years ago, and the Power Rangers were involved.
Probably WTF Bites.
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After 2 years of hard work, we've created something that's indistinguishable from a Google Chrome that runs at 4K, 60 frames a second, takes no more than 500 MB of RAM,
Per tab? Because if not, it fails your "indistinguishable from Google Chrome" test.
and often less than 30% CPU with 50+ tabs open.
Again, fails the "indistinguishable from Chrome" test.
This is the first step in making a new kind of computer.
"Thin client" really isn't new.
Also, how well does it do that on a slow network? You may have reduced the amount of work that needs to be done by the client (so does serving old-fashioned static pages), but I'm pretty sure you've increased the amount of data the server needs to send the client.
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
"Thin client" really isn't new.
Also, how well does it do that on a slow network? You may have reduced the amount of work that needs to be done by the client (so does serving old-fashioned static pages), but I'm pretty sure you've increased the amount of data the server needs to send the client.Well see they have this
Lag would have been a real problem 5 years ago, but new advances since then have allowed us to eliminate nearly all of it: 5 Ghz WiFi bands, H.265 hardware-accelerated low-latency encoders, widespread 100 Mbps Internet, and cheaper, more powerful GPUs. We also designed a new low-latency network protocol, and we locate servers as close to users geographically as possible.
As a result, a user with 100 Mbps internet will rarely notice lag while using Mighty.
Followed way down the page with this:
For Mighty to succeed, we have a strong incentive to find ways to reduce latency. Specifically the latency our customers might feel when they type, move their mouse, scroll, or see smooth 60 FPS animations when using our streaming browser.
We plan to contribute some of our revenue and funding to benefit everyone to realize this goal. That might be researching new networking protocols or standards, working with router manufacturers, research into congestion algorithms, education around WiFi, and helping push policy around the definition of “broadband” globally.
So see, it won't be a problem at all, what with the billions they are sure to be making off this "novel" technology.
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@JBert said in In other news today...:
@dkf You forgot the end of the article:
Now Gareth has conquered the Bromley superstore car park, we asked him what the next big project could be.
He said: "We've actually got a Lidl that's opened up just down the end of my road so considering that – I'm an equal opportunities car parker.
"Bromley's got some amazing car parks. The Glades is really top tier, but you're talking over 1,000 spaces there... I'll be there forever."
There’s a
joke in there somewhere.
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@Dragoon Doing a quick, not-thorough internet search, I didn't quickly find a number for how many people in the US have access to 100 Mbps, but I did find average speed. Across the US, the average speed is 35.3 Mbps. State-by-state, NJ has the highest average speed, at 52 Mbps, with the lowest (MT) at only 20.3. (Although the source I found also gives another list with other numbers for the fastest states, without a good explanation of why those numbers are different from the ones they give in their primary infographic. ) So there are a lot of people for whom this is not going to be good UX.
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@HardwareGeek Reminder: Most data we have is from the FCC's National Broadband Survey, which is reported by ISPs themselves, where the criteria is for each census tract they report the highest speed they think they might be able to sell any customer in that tract, and that's treated as the number for all people in that tract.
Also reminder: Outside of urban and exurban areas, most people are stuck with ADSL or ISDN. And ISPs are not selling or repairing DSL or ISDN lines anymore, so when they break or people move, there is literally no replacement right now. ("But cell service!" LTE has a much shorter range than earlier cell systems and is stuck with the same low-speed backhaul as residential service in those rural areas, and 4 out of the 6 major cell networks have shut down all non-LTE service. Plus if you know anything about US cell service you know you can't really use it as a main internet connection.)
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@TwelveBaud said in In other news today...:
the highest speed they think they might be able to sell any customer
Additional emphasis added. What they sell is not necessarily what they deliver.
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@Dragoon said in In other news today...:
@Gribnit said in In other news today...:
@Dragoon said in In other news today...:
After 2 years of hard work, we've created something that's indistinguishable from Google Chrome
but, this bears repeating.
Which thread?
BAD IDEAS
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@Dragoon said in In other news today...:
As a result, a user with 100 Mbps internet will rarely notice lag while using Mighty.
I can run a browser over RDP with less than 100Mbps. But then I don’t watch Netflix over it or any other stuff like that.
What’s the use case here, really? What‘s the average user that has a 100Mbps connection but a PC too slow to even run a browser? Maybe stop using Google’s
advertisement delivery OSChrome?!
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@cvi said in In other news today...:
I ... don't know what to say. Good for automating the boring parts, bad for including them anyway. One more reason to give Chinese MMOs a pass (I'd already heard that they tended to be quite grindy, so wasn't really looking into them anyway).
I'm not sure if we're talking about the same games. Since what I'm watching over my wife's shoulder is games sold to (and targeting) the Chinese market, not European ports.
Also, games meant for playing on the phone. Maybe half the reason for the AI is to cover for the touch-screen controls.
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
What’s the use case here, really? What‘s the average user that has a 100Mbps connection but a PC too slow to even run a browser? Maybe stop using Google’s
advertisement delivery OSChrome?!That has to be the plot twist, Shirley: Mighty is just any browser that's not Chrome. There is no way they can be that stupid to have done anything else.
I mean, 2 years to come up with a browser where 50+ tabs don't use more than 500 MB of RAM and 30% CPU? Seriously, whenever I get a new computer it takes me 5 min to download and install any browser that does that and that doesn't need a 100 MB/s connection either.
If they'd given some truly amazing numbers such as 100's of tabs in less than 10 MB, OK, that would be something new. Useless, as no one who has that little RAM would ever open that many tabs (unless purposefully trying to do weird things and no I'm not invoking one of our forum residents here), but new. But 50 tabs in 500 MB? What has the world come to that this is considered a marvellous achievement?
(fact check: I currently have 80+ tabs and my browser uses <600 MB and roughly 0% CPU)
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@acrow Somehow this reminds me of playing idlerpg on IRC.
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@remi said in In other news today...:
Mighty is just any browser that's not Chrome
My (yes, I am ) cursory reading of the article suggests that it is just any browser that IS Chrome, just most of it runs on the server.
Which makes it… um, people already have the harware with the power, which is exactly why applications are moving to the browser—to utilize the resources people have and save them in the data centre (and save some bandwidth and round-trips, too). And then these experts go against the trend.
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@Zecc said in In other news today...:
@BernieTheBernie said in In other news today...:
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@coderpatsy said in In other news today...:
It's Ninja (turtles) all the way down!
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@Bulb said in In other news today...:
Which makes it… um, people already have the harware with the power, which is exactly why applications are moving to the browser—to utilize the resources people have and save them in the data centre (and save some bandwidth and round-trips, too). And then these experts go against the trend.
That's a good point. Imagine if that thing took up, and then in a couple of years someone said "hey, bandwidth isn't quite enough for Mighty to work, and you've got some idle local computing power, so we're going to invent a Mightier thing where the local app on your computer is going to make some of the requests itself, and running some of the JS itself, rather than going through our servers!"
Now it that thought isn't or enough for you, imagine what the user-agent string for that browser will be!
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We’ve commissioned five new custom fonts–which should be the next default font?
For anybody wondering, the five fonts are:
- Comic Sans 2021
- Comic Sans 2021 Light
- Comic Sans 2021 Bold
- Comic Sans 2021 Italic
- Comic Serif
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@Bulb said in In other news today...:
And then these experts go against the trend.
User1: Hey this is cool!
User2: Yeah!
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User10: Why the fuck is this so slow?
User11: What does "server not available mean"?
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@remi said in In other news today...:
imagine what the user-agent string for that browser will be!
It should be mandated that the user-agent string is forever fixed to
Open Eyes
, except when screen reader is active, in which case it should beOpen Ears
or when there is a Braille terminal instead of screen, in which case it should beFeely Fingers
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@cvi said in In other news today...:
Bierstadt.
Approved.
Now if they actually showed samples of the font instead of some retarded design-wankery images that happen to have a few letters of the font name randomly assembled, that'd be great.
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@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
There is no guarantee that they won't sell it on the dark web anyway.
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@Carnage said in In other news today...:
@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
There is no guarantee that they
won'twill sell it on the dark web anyway....but we should probably assume that this will be the case.
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@Bulb said in In other news today...:
@remi said in In other news today...:
imagine what the user-agent string for that browser will be!
It should be mandated that the user-agent string is forever fixed to
Open Eyes
, except when screen reader is active, in which case it should beOpen Ears
or when there is a Braille terminal instead of screen, in which case it should beFeely Fingers
.Fails to account for synaesthetes, send back to WG
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@PJH on the first one. Also the "this is not news" thread is .
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@Dragoon said in In other news today...:
Or, as this is referred to in internal Experian documents.... Tuesday...
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@Dragoon Again?!? They were the ones who screwed up big time back in 2017. (I have free credit monitoring from them because of that breach.) Didn't they learn from that mistake? (Of course not.)
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@PleegWat said in In other news today...:
@acrow Somehow this reminds me of playing idlerpg on IRC.
Or Progress Quest.
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
@PJH on the first one. Also the "this is not news" thread is .
I still remember when I found out that dogs eat poop. I was walking around under the dining room table, pooping on the floor, followed by my dog at the time. What a friend I had in that poop-eating dog.
I suspect that part of being properly British is being unable to integrate this fact into human existence.
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@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
"Although insisting he was not intoxicated, the senator could not explain his nudity." -- sound bite from the opening of "WKRP in Cincinnati"
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@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
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@Dragoon it's gonna cause at least some acidulation.
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@Dragoon said in In other news today...:
This tech makes perishable food last months without a fridge
Salt?
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@Gąska this one's more like vinegar, it sounds like. but faster!
My favorite shelf-stabilizing method is the one most spices get. ⦕Gamma rays⦖, iirc. Hell, yeah.