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@hungrier Señor Wences, thou shouldst be living in this hour.
'salright.
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@DogsB said in In other news today...:
the British happily shot themselves in the foot
THIS IS WHY WE'RE NOT ALLOWED GUNS
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@TimeBandit Given the fact that you can get, say, 4 W LED lights (with whatever colour temperature you want) which replace 50 W incadescents for about 2€ in Germany (and from reputable brands!), this does not make much sense for anyone fiscally. Let's assume they're priced $2 in the US as well.
With a price of 13 cents per kWh, this would make the incadescents perform worse after a mere 310 hours if you assume a cheap 0.10 cent incadescent. Hell, even if you made them free it would only take 10 more hours.
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@Rhywden This is assuming that the same person that is buying the bulbs is also paying for the power throughout the entire lifetime of the bulb. There are a handful of different ways that assumption can go wrong, and so you end up with scenarios in which it's an economically rational choice for various people to do something really dumb, and a lot of them fight viciously to defend their right to do really dumb things like that.
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@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
this does not make much sense for anyone fiscally.
You assume a lot of people buying bulbs do the maths.
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@Mason_Wheeler The lifetime of a LED lamp is way higher than 300 hours, by the way.
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It should be rolled back, the government has no business telling me which lightbulbs I can buy.
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@Dragoon By that logic we'd still be using leaded petrol.
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I wasn't aware that leaded gasoline and lightbulbs were the same thing.
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@Dragoon Not since they took the lead out of lightbulbs
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@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
@Mason_Wheeler
TheTheoretical lifetime of a LED lamp is way higher than 300 hours, by the way.Practice shows something completely different.
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@loopback0 said in In other news today...:
@DogsB said in In other news today...:
the British happily shot themselves in the foot
THIS IS WHY WE'RE NOT ALLOWED GUNS
Cutlery or porn too.
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@MrL said in In other news today...:
@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
@Mason_Wheeler
TheTheoretical lifetime of a LED lamp is way higher than 300 hours, by the way.Practice shows something completely different.
If you don't buy the cheapest of shit then practice is not that far off from the posted lifetime.
Of course it's always cheaper to snipe from the sidelines without providing an actual credible source for your opinion.
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@Dragoon said in In other news today...:
I wasn't aware that leaded gasoline and lightbulbs were the same thing.
I was responding to the sentiment of "the government can't tell me not to buy XYZ! Wharrgarbl. Derp."
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@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
@Dragoon said in In other news today...:
I wasn't aware that leaded gasoline and lightbulbs were the same thing.
I was responding to the sentiment of "the government can't tell me not to buy XYZ! Wharrgarbl. Derp."
So you responded to made up shit, gotcha.
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@Dragoon said in In other news today...:
@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
@Dragoon said in In other news today...:
I wasn't aware that leaded gasoline and lightbulbs were the same thing.
I was responding to the sentiment of "the government can't tell me not to buy XYZ! Wharrgarbl. Derp."
So you responded to made up shit, gotcha.
Wait, you deem it a "gotcha" when you fart out an actual, existing sentiment and expect me to realize that you "made it up" even when it does exist, in which case it cannot be made up?
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@Dragoon said in In other news today...:
So what they're saying is, we've discovered a new squirrel hunting technique involving carrying a boombox and recorded birdsongs?
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@Dragoon said in In other news today...:
Sweet! Now if they start planting some grasses to stabilize the dunes, then start introducing other plants slowly they can start a virtuous cycle and turn it all into a lush paradise in just a few hundred years! Local stillsuit manufacturing expected to be hit hardest.
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@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
@Dragoon said in In other news today...:
I wasn't aware that leaded gasoline and lightbulbs were the same thing.
I was responding to the sentiment of "the government can't tell me not to buy XYZ! Wharrgarbl. Derp."
Just not in a way that made logical sense.
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@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
@Dragoon said in In other news today...:
@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
@Dragoon said in In other news today...:
I wasn't aware that leaded gasoline and lightbulbs were the same thing.
I was responding to the sentiment of "the government can't tell me not to buy XYZ! Wharrgarbl. Derp."
So you responded to made up shit, gotcha.
Wait, you deem it a "gotcha" when you fart out an actual, existing sentiment and expect me to realize that you "made it up" even when it does exist, in which case it cannot be made up?
No, I made an explicit statement about lightbulbs and your response was related to gasoline. Which last I checked is not the same thing. It is almost like I can have nuanced views and like at different things differently.
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@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
Sweet! Now if they start planting some grasses to stabilize the dunes, then start introducing other plants slowly they can start a virtuous cycle and turn it all into a lush paradise in just a few hundred years! Local stillsuit manufacturing expected to be hit hardest.
(reference understood)
More lawns to tell kids to get off of.
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@Zecc said in In other news today...:
(reference understood)
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@Dragoon said in In other news today...:
No, I made an explicit statement about lightbulbs and your response was related to gasoline. Which last I checked is not the same thing. It is almost like I can have nuanced views and like at different things differently.
And at no point has @Rhywden said they're the same thing. He said "by that logic", where "that logic is"
the government has no business telling me which lightbulbs I can buy.
and the analogy of
the government has no business telling me which gasoline I can buy.
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
@Dragoon said in In other news today...:
No, I made an explicit statement about lightbulbs and your response was related to gasoline. Which last I checked is not the same thing. It is almost like I can have nuanced views and like at different things differently.
And at no point has @Rhywden said they're the same thing. He said "by that logic", where "that logic is"
the government has no business telling me which lightbulbs I can buy.
and the analogy of
the government has no business telling me which gasoline I can buy.
So he's assuming people's logic now in disingenuous ways, eh?
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@boomzilla Did you just assume his logic?
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@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
@MrL said in In other news today...:
@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
@Mason_Wheeler
TheTheoretical lifetime of a LED lamp is way higher than 300 hours, by the way.Practice shows something completely different.
If you don't buy the cheapest of shit then
...you're not the kind of person who's affected by the incandescent ban.
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@Gąska said in In other news today...:
@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
@MrL said in In other news today...:
@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
@Mason_Wheeler
TheTheoretical lifetime of a LED lamp is way higher than 300 hours, by the way.Practice shows something completely different.
If you don't buy the cheapest of shit then
...you're not the kind of person who's affected by the incandescent ban.
The biggest problem with the ban was that when it went into effect the only real alternatives were CFLs, which are mostly garbage. Now that LEDs have come down in price it's not so bad. It's possible that we only got them because of the bans, but I think that's not an easy question to answer and it definitely wasn't a certainty at the time.
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@boomzilla it's an interesting thing. I'm of the opinion that introducing the ban then was a bad idea, because as you said, there were no good alternatives. But now that there are, I think lifting the ban would be bad.
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@Gąska said in In other news today...:
@boomzilla it's an interesting thing. I'm of the opinion that introducing the ban then was a bad idea, because as you said, there were no good alternatives. But now that there are, I think lifting the ban would be bad.
I think that lifting the ban will have little or no effect at this point (most manufacturers have moved on and aren't likely to come back) so it's kind of retarded not to get rid of it.
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@Dragoon said in In other news today...:
You see something similar while reading. You would think that Asian languages, which can condense more information into less bits, would be faster to read but they still have to be absorbed by wetware which regardless of language is terribly slow.
As an aside. I'm fairly certain that after listening to some people I've gotten dumber. Is there a measurement of negative sharing of information?
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@Gąska said in In other news today...:
@Mason_Wheeler said in In other news today...:
Speaking of science fiction getting real...
On a related note this
Was pretty funny before the lawyers got involved.
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@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
@Gąska said in In other news today...:
@boomzilla it's an interesting thing. I'm of the opinion that introducing the ban then was a bad idea, because as you said, there were no good alternatives. But now that there are, I think lifting the ban would be bad.
I think that lifting the ban will have little or no effect at this point (most manufacturers have moved on and aren't likely to come back) so it's kind of retarded not to get rid of it.
It has little to no effect at the moment, but it still makes the idiots who have no idea what they're doing not do some dumb things. If you look at utility only, repeal would only have negative effects.
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@TimeBandit I am fine with making language more inclusive - as long as it doesn't sound dumb. "Blocklist" is fine, but I'll never ever switch to "allowlist". If it was "passlist" or "okaylist", then maybe.
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@Gąska said in In other news today...:
If it was "passlist" or "okaylist", then maybe.
Even those sound pretty dumb TBH. "Blocklist" might sound fine if it wasn't for the high probability that someone will confuse it with blockchains.
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@Mason_Wheeler said in In other news today...:
"Blocklist" might sound fine if it wasn't for the high probability that someone will confuse it with blockchains.
Put the blocklist in blockchain. Problem solved
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@Gąska said in In other news today...:
@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
@Gąska said in In other news today...:
@boomzilla it's an interesting thing. I'm of the opinion that introducing the ban then was a bad idea, because as you said, there were no good alternatives. But now that there are, I think lifting the ban would be bad.
I think that lifting the ban will have little or no effect at this point (most manufacturers have moved on and aren't likely to come back) so it's kind of retarded not to get rid of it.
It has little to no effect at the moment, but it still makes the idiots who have no idea what they're doing not do some dumb things. If you look at utility only, repeal would only have negative effects.
I don't know what "if you look at utility only" means but I can't see any real downsides to removing the ban.
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@TimeBandit said in In other news today...:
@Mason_Wheeler said in In other news today...:
"Blocklist" might sound fine if it wasn't for the high probability that someone will confuse it with blockchains.
Put the blocklist in blockchain. Problem solved
But you need an AI to manage it for you!
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@TimeBandit said in In other news today...: